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View Joe Preston Profile
CPC (ON)
I'd like to call our meeting to order. We have a reduced quorum, but we have what we need to hear witnesses.
A response to one of our questions about the report from Elections Canada's Chief Electoral Officer as to when his report may be finalized and sent to us is being distributed. That is for your records.
The meeting today is public, and we are here today to hear from the Ethics Commissioner.
We'll hear a statement from you and allow you to introduce your staff to us. I believe you have some information to share with us, so we'll carry on with that.
Thank you.
View Joe Preston Profile
CPC (ON)
Thank you so much.
I'd like to ask the committee now for questions for the commissioner. If we could, I'd like to keep the first bit to the forms the commissioner has brought forward to us today. We'd really like to get through those and get those passed, or at least recommended, if we could.
Madam Dawson has also mentioned she'd like some information on educational activities. We could certainly share those with her too.
Is there anybody from your group that would like to ask questions first?
Madam Jennings.
View Joe Preston Profile
CPC (ON)
Fantastic.
Is there anyone from the government side with questions?
Monsieur Lauzon.
View Guy Lauzon Profile
CPC (ON)
Being new to the committee and new to this process, I sense a certain amount of frustration in getting these forms approved.
Even before we get into the forms, you mentioned...I don't know too much about this gift process either. I don't get offered very many free tickets to galas, actually. They usually look at me as a source for their fundraising. Maybe I represent the wrong riding or something. It's very interesting.
I'm not sure how your process works here, being new to the committee. I'm just trying to figure it out. You said the biggest challenge you have is getting forms approved. Why is that so difficult?
View Guy Lauzon Profile
CPC (ON)
You've been in your position since...?
View Guy Lauzon Profile
CPC (ON)
And you still don't have appropriate forms? What are you using for forms now?
View Guy Lauzon Profile
CPC (ON)
I think my colleague Mr. Lukiwski might be able to clarify and help with our frustrations.
View Joe Preston Profile
CPC (ON)
Are you sharing your time then?
View Tom Lukiwski Profile
CPC (SK)
Thank you.
Good morning, Ms. Dawson. Thank you for being here. I apologize on behalf of Mr. Reid. I just went upstairs and had a quick conversation with Mr. Reid, who is unavoidably detained. He wishes he could be here. He did ask me to convey to not only yourself but to other members of the committee that the subcommittee that was examining the forms were unanimous in their decision that the forms submitted to you would be appropriate. In fact, the forms that you had then distributed as a package to all parliamentarians, in the subcommittee's view, were perfect, they were excellent, and they had no problems with them whatsoever. Unfortunately, Mr. Reid is the only remaining member of the subcommittee who sits on the current procedure and House affairs committee, and as I said, he was unavoidably detained today.
For your benefit and for the benefit of all the members, the subcommittee is extremely pleased with the forms that you have already submitted in draft form. Their recommendation to this committee would be that they accept them as presented.
View Joe Preston Profile
CPC (ON)
That was a route that could have been taken, Monsieur Proulx. We chose to take the forms that Madam Dawson brought to us today, being substantially similar to the forms the subcommittee had also looked at, and we would look at them as a whole committee today under her report to us and maybe approve them that way. The clerk has prepared a recommendation that we then report to the House on those forms if the committee wishes.
View Joe Preston Profile
CPC (ON)
Instead of having to restrike a subcommittee to report back, we felt we could take this step and go that way. We'll certainly do it the opposite way if the committee wishes to.
View Joe Preston Profile
CPC (ON)
It would be a longer dissertation than just those....
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