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View Hedy Fry Profile
Lib. (BC)
I call this meeting to order.
Welcome to meeting number 58 of the House of Commons Standing Committee on Canadian Heritage.
I would like to acknowledge that this meeting is taking place on the unceded traditional territory of the Algonquin Anishinabe people.
Today's meeting is taking place pursuant to the order of Tuesday, May 31, 2022. The committee is resuming clause-by-clause consideration of Bill C-18, An Act respecting online communications platforms that make news content available to persons in Canada.
Today's meeting is in a hybrid format pursuant to the House order of Thursday, June 23, 2022. Members attending in the room know by now what to do to get your interpretation. Members who are in the hybrid format, because we've been doing this for a while as parliamentarians, also know what to do to find your interpretation with that little globe thing at the bottom of your screen.
Please wait until I recognize you by name to activate your microphone, and turn it off as soon as you have spoken. Otherwise, we have that horrible clashing sound of my voice ringing like a banshee in the meeting when I try to speak.
We have with us today witnesses from the Department of Canadian Heritage. We have Thomas Ripley, Michel Sabbagh, Joelle Paré and Frederick Matern. They are here to advise, to facilitate and to interpret any of the clauses of the bill with which you wish to deal.
We'll begin with BQ-3 and Monsieur Champoux—
Mr. Waugh, go ahead.
View Kevin Waugh Profile
CPC (SK)
Before we get under way here with clause-by-clause consideration, out of courtesy to Justice Cromwell, as we have a motion to bring him to committee, I'm wondering, Madam Chair, if I could suggest the following. Because we are progressing pretty well on Bill C-18, I suggest we ask the clerk to arrange for Justice Cromwell to come to committee on December 13 out of respect for his time.
As you all know, Hockey Canada's new board will be announced on Saturday, December 17, and we wanted Justice Cromwell here before it proceeds with its new board.
If that's okay with everyone, I circled the date of Tuesday, December 13.
View Hedy Fry Profile
Lib. (BC)
Kevin, the clerk has already contacted Justice Cromwell, so I will let her report on what happened with her discussion with him.
Go ahead, Aimée.
Aimée Belmore
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Aimée Belmore
2022-12-02 13:06
I have indeed contacted Justice Cromwell, and he is receptive to coming to the committee.
View Kevin Waugh Profile
CPC (SK)
I can't hear a word you're saying.
Aimée Belmore
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Aimée Belmore
2022-12-02 13:07
Sorry; there's a volume issue in the room that we're trying to sort through. I'm sorry. In the interim, I have asked that the room volume be turned up, but if you could put in your earphones, I'm afraid that will have to be the....
View Hedy Fry Profile
Lib. (BC)
Excuse me, Aimée. Because we are all committee members, I didn't ask, but has everyone actually concluded the microphone testing and made sure they're using the mikes the House of Commons says they should use?
Aimée Belmore
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Aimée Belmore
2022-12-02 13:07
All the witnesses are in person, so there were no tests to do for today's meeting.
As to the question about Justice Cromwell, I have reached out to him, and he has indicated that he is available to come to committee on both Tuesday, December 13, and Friday, December 16. He has, however, indicated a preference for Friday, December 16. I will leave that with members of the committee. He has also indicated that at least two to three other people will be accompanying him.
View Hedy Fry Profile
Lib. (BC)
Thank you, Aimée.
I don't know if the committee will be meeting on Friday, December 16, but it is up to the committee to make a decision about that. If the House rises before December 16 and the committee wants to meet on December 16, are there resources available for us to do so, Aimée?
Aimée Belmore
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Aimée Belmore
2022-12-02 13:08
If the committee intends to meet on the 16th, I wouldn't want to get out in front and we would of course need to ask, but I'm certain that the resources would be there to support the meeting.
View Hedy Fry Profile
Lib. (BC)
Thank you.
Go ahead, Marilyn.
View Marilyn Gladu Profile
CPC (ON)
Chair, I would suggest that out of an abundance of caution, maybe we should go with the 13th. I know it's not the judge's favourite, but at least we know that the meeting wouldn't be pre-empted and we wouldn't need anybody to stay longer at Christmas.
View Hedy Fry Profile
Lib. (BC)
I agree with you, Marilyn. I think that may be a very wise decision, because we want to hear from him prior to the board's consent. I also know that if we have finished clause-by-clause study and we are able to do that meeting, that we could, if necessary.... I think the clerk was telling me that there is an indication that we might be able to get three hours. I don't know. It's whatever.
Go ahead, Aimée.
Aimée Belmore
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Aimée Belmore
2022-12-02 13:09
Mr. Bittle has his hand up in the room.
View Chris Bittle Profile
Lib. (ON)
Madam Chair, I'm in favour of the motion. I think it's wise, Mr. Waugh, to schedule a date, but I know we do have a priority on clause-by-clause consideration. The only thing I would amend is that it be December 13, unless clause-by-clause study has not yet been completed.
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