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View Michael Kram Profile
CPC (SK)
Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Thank you for being here today, Mr. Carr, and welcome to the Standing Committee on Industry and Technology.
I read Bill C-235. It's my understanding that this bill applies to Alberta, Saskatchewan and Manitoba only. Is that correct?
View Michael Kram Profile
CPC (SK)
Those three provinces are represented by 62 members of Parliament. When we voted on this bill last June, 51 of those MPs voted against it and only 10 voted in favour, with one MP abstaining.
The question has to be asked: Why do you suppose this bill is so unpopular in the only three provinces it actually affects?
View Michael Kram Profile
CPC (SK)
Okay. That's fair enough.
For years, provincial governments in western Canada and the oil and gas sector have been calling for more pipelines to get built, such as the Keystone XL, Trans Mountain and northern gateway pipelines. However, this bill talks about prioritizing projects such as tree planting and solar energy.
How will that help get more pipelines built in western Canada?
View Michael Kram Profile
CPC (SK)
The Government of Saskatchewan is currently forecasting $4.7 billion in revenue from non-renewable resources for the current fiscal year. That's about one-quarter of the provincial government's budget. If that stream of revenues stops coming in from non-renewable resources, then how would you recommend the Government of Saskatchewan make up that budgetary shortfall?
View Michael Kram Profile
CPC (SK)
Have you consulted with Premier Moe or any provincial cabinet ministers in Saskatchewan about this legislation?
View Michael Kram Profile
CPC (SK)
I'm not saying that there isn't a sense of goodwill, but what are you going to do with the feedback from the provincial premiers, which is that they do not want this bill and they do not want this framework and they would rather govern their own provinces in their own areas of jurisdiction?
View Robert Kitchen Profile
CPC (SK)
I call the meeting to order.
Welcome back to committee. I trust everyone had a good summer.
This is the 28th meeting of the House of Commons Standing Committee on Government Operations and Estimates. The committee is meeting today to consider the study of expenditures related to the Office of the Governor General's Secretary.
Today's meeting is taking place in a hybrid format pursuant to the House order of June 23. Members are attending in person in the room and remotely, using the Zoom application.
Regarding the speaking list, the committee clerk and I will do our best to maintain a consolidated order of speaking for all members, whether participating virtually or in person. Unfortunately, we lost half an hour, but we will try to be as close to 5:30 p.m. as possible.
I would like to take this opportunity to remind all participants of this meeting that taking screenshots or taking photos of your screen is not permitted.
I would like to welcome the witnesses. With that, we'll have opening statements. We will go in order, starting with Ms. MacIntyre, then Mr. Wheeler and then Lieutenant-General Kenny.
Welcome and thank you very much for coming. You have five minutes for an opening statement.
We'll start with Ms. MacIntyre.
View Robert Kitchen Profile
CPC (SK)
Thank you, Ms. MacIntyre.
We'll now go to Mr. Wheeler.
View Robert Kitchen Profile
CPC (SK)
Thank you, Mr. Wheeler.
Now, we'll go to the Department of National Defence and Lieutenant-General Kenny.
View Robert Kitchen Profile
CPC (SK)
Thank you very much, General.
As I look at the time, I recognize that we should be able to get through three rounds.
We'll start our first round of six minutes with Mr. Paul-Hus.
View Robert Kitchen Profile
CPC (SK)
Thank you, Mr. Paul-Hus.
We'll now go to Mr. Housefather for six minutes.
View Robert Kitchen Profile
CPC (SK)
Thank you, Mr. Wheeler.
I apologize for interrupting, but perhaps, as the questions come out, you might be able to add more as we go along here. I appreciate that.
We now go to Ms. Vignola for six minutes.
View Robert Kitchen Profile
CPC (SK)
Thank you, General.
We'll now go to Mr. Johns for six minutes.
View Robert Kitchen Profile
CPC (SK)
Thank you, Mr. Wheeler.
Thank you, Mr. Johns.
We'll now go to the second round, starting with Mr. McCauley for five minutes.
View Robert Kitchen Profile
CPC (SK)
Thank you very much. If there's further documentation that you'd like to provide, if you provide that to the clerk, the clerk will distribute that amongst the committee members. That would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.
We'll now go to Mr. Bains for five minutes.
View Robert Kitchen Profile
CPC (SK)
Thank you, Mr. Bains.
Now we will go to Ms. Vignola for two and a half minutes.
View Robert Kitchen Profile
CPC (SK)
Thank you very much.
We'll now go to Mr. Johns for two and a half minutes.
View Robert Kitchen Profile
CPC (SK)
View Robert Kitchen Profile
CPC (SK)
Thank you, Mr. Johns.
We'll now go to Mr. McCauley for five minutes.
View Robert Kitchen Profile
CPC (SK)
You have a minute and a half.
View Brad Redekopp Profile
CPC (SK)
Thank you, Mr. Chair.
I want to pick up on that point of contingencies. You mentioned that there were contingencies. You eliminated part of them in 2019 and now, again.
Can you tell us a bit more about that? When you had the beef, chicken and pork options, how much contingency did you have if you had, say, 30 people on board? Did you have 35 meals? What were the typical contingencies?
What would happen to those excess meals once the flights were completed?
View Brad Redekopp Profile
CPC (SK)
Could you provide the committee with that information? What was the reduction? What was the contingency in 2019, and what did you reduce it to? What have you reduced it to now?
View Brad Redekopp Profile
CPC (SK)
If you could provide that, that would be great.
If we were to go on a military flight—you're flying officers or military people on those types of planes—would we find the same sort of situation if we were to do an Order Paper question on those types of things?
View Brad Redekopp Profile
CPC (SK)
Okay. Thank you.
I have one last question for Mr. Wheeler. You mentioned that the protocol office was doing a review, and you were maybe going to have some new procedures and policies.
Could you give us a bit of a timeline on that? Could you then provide that review to the committee, so we could see the results of that?
View Brad Redekopp Profile
CPC (SK)
Can you provide that review to us, though—
View Robert Kitchen Profile
CPC (SK)
I'm sorry. It's not a bad question.
Could you provide that? Thank you.
We'll go to Mr. Jowhari for five minutes.
View Robert Kitchen Profile
CPC (SK)
Thank you.
That ends our second round, but it is my understanding that there is agreement amongst members for one more set of questions.
Mr. Paul-Hus, please go ahead.
View Robert Kitchen Profile
CPC (SK)
Thank you, Mr. Paul-Hus.
Before I say anything more, is everyone comfortable with the questioning?
Okay, that's great. Thank you.
It is my understanding that we will end the questioning at this point in time out of respect for your offices and the time commitments that you made.
We do appreciate you coming on such short notice and being able to be here for us. It's nice to see you working together. That's what we like to see.
We had Team Canada from 50 years ago in the House of Commons today. It makes me reflect back to 50 years ago when I was a son of a colonel who was the military attaché at the High Commission in Pakistan. I saw the work that was being done between Global Affairs—it was foreign affairs at that time—and the military, as well as Her Majesty's Governor General, who is now His Majesty's Governor General. It's just a great pleasure for me to be able to say that.
I like to see that work. I really do appreciate your time here and your efforts to do that.
With that said, I will declare the meeting adjourned.
View Kevin Waugh Profile
CPC (SK)
I have only 30 seconds left, Chair. I'll take the third round.
View Kevin Waugh Profile
CPC (SK)
View Kevin Waugh Profile
CPC (SK)
Mr. Smith, on June 20 I called you out, saying it's a cover-up and you own it. At least today you admitted you have started to own it.
Hockey Canada has a problem. I was a broadcaster before I was an MP, as you know, for over 40 years. I covered the Western Hockey League extensively. I am very happy that you're doing a full governance review. I've had dozens of calls from agents and from players citing Bob Nicholson, Tom Renney and you. It is top down in Hockey Canada. You are the biggest sport organization this country has.
Part of the problem I'm hearing is that the board is not connected with the CEOs. Bob Nicholson told the board, “I'm doing this; follow me.” Tom Renney only had a few years; the same. Now you're in the chair. I hope the governance review will follow other national sport organizations in this country in giving the board of directors the power over the CEOs. Bob Nicholson, Tom Renney and you were too powerful. The boards of hockey need to take this over. Canadians coast to coast know this. Players, agents, coaches, general managers and the Canadian Hockey League know this. They keep things from Hockey Canada. I'm going to get into this later with David Branch, Gilles Courteau and Ron Robison.
Hockey Canada needs to change at the board level, Mr. Smith. This is where it has to start. The board has to control Hockey Canada. What Bob Nicholson, Tom Renney and now you...is not working. Canadians have told you this. They've lost trust. The only trust you are going to get back from moms and dads and players is that the board directs you as the CEO.
Can we get that assurance from you? I know that you just took over for the last month, but we saw it with Nicholson and Renney. We don't want to see the same leadership from you. Canadians have asked that.
View Kevin Waugh Profile
CPC (SK)
Yes; I called you out on that. Thank you.
View Kevin Waugh Profile
CPC (SK)
I'm hearing that 2018 board members weren't consulted, just the chair. The chair kept it between, at that time, Tom Renney and the chair of Hockey Canada. It does not come down to the board members, and that's wrong.
The governance is wrong. As the most powerful sport organization in this country, it must change. It must change.
View Kevin Waugh Profile
CPC (SK)
The problem is that they were not consulted. In fact, Mr. McCurdie said it. While you were flying back to Calgary, he should have been phoning the board—“we need an emergency meeting”—on June 19. That didn't happen. Instead, you were flying back to Calgary when Mr. McCurdie should have called, or had you or Mr. Renney call, an emergency meeting with the board of governors, with Hockey Canada. That's not happened.
View Kevin Waugh Profile
CPC (SK)
View Kevin Waugh Profile
CPC (SK)
Let me ask one last question, Mr. Smith.
Do you not think the board should have been involved on June 19 when the phone call went to Mr. Glen McCurdie? Do you not think the head of Hockey Canada's board of governors along with the rest of the board of governors should have been involved immediately on June 19 when that phone call went to Mr. McCurdie?
Instead, they were left out in the dark for probably weeks.
View Kevin Waugh Profile
CPC (SK)
Do you not think it should have happened on June 19 or June 20, instead of a week later?
View Kevin Waugh Profile
CPC (SK)
Thank you very much.
Gentlemen, you're here because we care about the game, but I have to admit, when I look at the seven of you, and three on Zoom, that's not the face of hockey today. NHL teams have moved to women in positions. We are lagging behind. That front row tells me everything.
Mr. Smith, how are you going to change that culture?
View Kevin Waugh Profile
CPC (SK)
How long is it going to take, Mr. Branch, until we see women in powerful positions in the OHL, in the LHJMQ and in the Western Hockey League? Really, in those three leagues, in the Canadian Hockey League, there is zero influence right now on the women.
You three will have to lead this in the coming months. I would hope that we do see some women in influential positions in the Canadian Hockey League, in the LHJMQ, the OHL and the WHL.
View Kevin Waugh Profile
CPC (SK)
It will be me, Madam Chair.
View Kevin Waugh Profile
CPC (SK)
I'm going to continue with the Canadian Hockey League.
All three commissioners have been long-serving members of the hockey community.
Gentlemen, I don't have to tell you that hazing and initiations still happen today in your leagues. You may not say it here, but we know it happens.
Mr. Branch, you don't have connections with Hockey Canada when this happens because we have owners that don't want to report it because there could be a certain player who is a first-round pick in the NHL and is worth over $100,000 to the Barrie Colts or whoever. Therein lies the issue with the Canadian Hockey League. Owners who have first or second draft picks get more money. I'm hesitant to give you my first-round draft pick if he's been involved in a hazing or an initiation because he's going to be an assistant captain or a captain on a team.
We are seeing this because.... I am the Moose Jaw Warriors, the Swift Current Broncos or Prince Albert Raiders, and—Ron, you know this—I'm a community-based team. I'm living month by month. If I have a first-round draft pick that I'm going to get $100,000 for, that could be the make or break of my hockey season and the balance.
As the Canadian Hockey League, how do we move on from here? This is part of the problem. David, Gilles and Ron wouldn't tell Hockey Canada, “We have an issue with this hockey player, so don't pick him for this team because we all want that player to be identified, and the more Hockey Canada grabs the player, the more money I'm going to get on the draft.”
Mr Branch, you've been around longer than most, I think. How would you assess the issues that I just told you exist in the Canadian Hockey League and the Q, the O and the W?
View Kevin Waugh Profile
CPC (SK)
There still are.
View Kevin Waugh Profile
CPC (SK)
View Kevin Waugh Profile
CPC (SK)
I'm concerned that there's no database. There's no database available in this country, through Hockey Canada or through the Canadian Hockey League, other than the Graham James incident and so on. How do I know that someone from Gatineau or someone from Victoriaville was involved in an incident? There is no record that I can go to. That person might move out to Vancouver to be with the Vancouver Giants. I don't have the database needed to make choices from the Q, the O and the W. Why can't we have a database of this stuff?
View Kevin Waugh Profile
CPC (SK)
League by league, but people move. The Edmonton Oil Kings hire someone from the O and so on. I mean, you guys know that in coaching you don't hire within the Western Hockey League; you can hire from the Quebec league and from the O. If we don't have a database from the Canadian Hockey League, how would we know as owners or as personnel?
View Kevin Waugh Profile
CPC (SK)
How would we know unless we have a database?
View Kevin Waugh Profile
CPC (SK)
You know, hockey is Canada's game. It's been in everybody's backyard. This hits deeply. I stand by my earlier comments that, not only does Hockey Canada have to own this, but yesterday I called on Sport Canada, too.
We have to blow up Sport Canada as much as some around the table want to blow up Hockey Canada. It's a culture that, as we know in this country, has gone on too long. We've all agreed with that, but there's heavy lifting to go. There will be bumps, there will be celebrations, but, at the end, I think all of us need this. We need a cleansing in hockey. We need a cleansing in sport. We've all been involved for decades with it.
View Kevin Waugh Profile
CPC (SK)
We all love every sport that we've been involved in.
On behalf of the Conservative Party, I will add thank you for coming here today. We don't have all the answers. Maybe we'll have another meeting in September, but going forward, the glass is half full; it's not half empty.
Thank you.
View Kevin Waugh Profile
CPC (SK)
Thank you, Madam Chair.
It's Kevin Waugh.
View Kevin Waugh Profile
CPC (SK)
Mr. Lorenzetti, it's interesting that you're with BFL Canada brokerage and that you were also on, what happened to be, the 2018 foundation gala board of Hockey Canada. That's where this incident allegedly took place—at the gala.
I don't know if you heard that night what happened or if it was the next day. When did you find out about these allegations?
View Kevin Waugh Profile
CPC (SK)
That's interesting, because the chair of the Hockey Canada Foundation had no knowledge of what took place that day. In fact, it was several weeks or months later. Hockey Canada never informed him. He was the chair of the Hockey Canada Foundation gala and was never informed of the incident that I've talked about, and yet you being a board member, albeit not at the event, knew a couple of days later.
Yet, Mr. Andrews, I think it was, had no knowledge of this. He had no correspondence from Hockey Canada itself and yet you as a citizen had knowledge a couple of days later.
Who told you about it?
View Kevin Waugh Profile
CPC (SK)
When did the board members find out?
View Kevin Waugh Profile
CPC (SK)
Were you surprised two years later?
View Kevin Waugh Profile
CPC (SK)
You're in insurance. We had the event that took place in 2018 and then we have an agreement with the plaintiff.
Go through the steps that you as an insurance broker went through in finding out that a deal had been done between Hockey Canada and the plaintiff.
View Kevin Waugh Profile
CPC (SK)
View Kevin Waugh Profile
CPC (SK)
How does BFL Canada work with Hockey Canada? Give us some insight on what you do in that company of yours.
View Kevin Waugh Profile
CPC (SK)
We found out today that Hockey Canada, since 1989, had nine settlements, worth $7.6 million. Most of it, $6.8 million, dealt with the Graham James incidents.
As a broker, you're looking for the best insurance deal.
View Kevin Waugh Profile
CPC (SK)
I would say rates would be going up when I look at Hockey Canada's past and looking to the future. You're a broker. You're looking for the best deal.
What can you tell me about the deals, if there are any now, for Hockey Canada given their situation, as we have heard, not only in the last two years but certainly in the last number of years as well?
View Kevin Waugh Profile
CPC (SK)
I mean deals on insurance. You're the one who's brokering Hockey Canada, so you're obviously looking for the best insurance packages at the least cost, I would think, to Hockey Canada.
View Kevin Waugh Profile
CPC (SK)
When I look at the testimony here today and see that they have agreements in place and have paid out large sums of money, that tells me that their premiums would go up. Am I right in that assessment?
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