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View Rhéal Fortin Profile
BQ (QC)
I call this meeting to order.
Welcome to meeting No. 12 of the Special Joint Committee on the Declaration of Emergency, created pursuant to the order of the House of Commons on March 2, 2022, and of the Senate on March 3, 2022.
Today's meeting is taking place in hybrid format, in accordance with the order of the House of Commons dated November 25, 2021.
In the event of technical challenges, please advise me, so that we can suspend for a few minutes, if necessary, to ensure that all members are able to participate fully in the meeting.
We will now turn to our agenda, the future work of the Committee.
Does anyone wish to present a motion? I believe Mr. Motz would like to table some motions.
Let us begin with the first notice of motion from Mr. Motz. Motion 1 reads as follows:
That the Committee deem the evidence, including testimony and documents, received by, and published on the websites of, standing committees of the House of Commons and the Public Order Emergency Commission, in relation to the February 2022 public order emergency and matters consequential to it, to have been received by this Committee and may be used in its reports, provided that it shall not limit the questions which may be asked of witnesses appearing before the Committee or documents which may be requested or ordered to be produced by the Committee.
Does anyone wish to speak to this motion?
View Rachel Bendayan Profile
Lib. (QC)
A point of order, Mr. Chair.
Just to be sure I understand correctly, will we be reviewing all the Conservative motions?
For our part, we would like to present a motion, when you see fit. Perhaps my colleagues from the NDP or some senators also have motions to propose.
I just want to understand how the meeting will unfold.
View Rhéal Fortin Profile
BQ (QC)
Personally, I have no objection if you wish to present a motion.
Right now, I just have the eight notices of motion from Mr. Motz. I will read them one after the other, and we may propose amendments.
We can consider your motion after that, unless you have any objection.
View Rachel Bendayan Profile
Lib. (QC)
Very well. Thank you, Mr. Chair.
View Rhéal Fortin Profile
BQ (QC)
Is there unanimous consent on Motion 1?
Voices: Agreed.
(The motion is adopted.)
View Rhéal Fortin Profile
BQ (QC)
The second motion is as follows:
That the Committee direct the Joint Clerks to invite each individual or organization listed on the analysts' work plan, dated May 11, 2022, to submit a brief to the Committee for its consideration, with briefs encouraged to be provided to the Joint Clerks within one month of the adoption of this motion, provided that the Joint Clerks shall arrange for translation of the briefs received and circulate them to Committee members and publish them on the Committee's website upon completion of the translation.
Does anyone wish to speak to the motion?
Mr. Virani, you have the floor.
View Rhéal Fortin Profile
BQ (QC)
Senator White, you have the floor.
View Rhéal Fortin Profile
BQ (QC)
It is your turn, Mr. Motz.
View Rhéal Fortin Profile
BQ (QC)
We are listening, Senator White.
View Rhéal Fortin Profile
BQ (QC)
Mr. Brock, you have the floor.
View Rhéal Fortin Profile
BQ (QC)
Thank you.
Mr. Green, you have the floor.
Senator White, you will be next.
We are listening, Mr. Green.
View Rhéal Fortin Profile
BQ (QC)
Thank you, Mr. Green.
Senator White, you have the floor.
View Rhéal Fortin Profile
BQ (QC)
What do you think, Mr. Motz?
View Rhéal Fortin Profile
BQ (QC)
Does everyone agree to suspending our consideration of Motion 2?
We therefore suspend our discussion of Motion 2.
Let us move on to Motion 3:
That the Committee send to each individual or organization listed on the analysts' work plan, dated May 11, 2022, written questions submitted by the members of the Committee for response, provided that (a) members shall provide their questions to the Joint Clerks within three weeks of the adoption of this motion; (b) members may designate up to five questions per individual or organization as “priority questions”; (c) individuals or organizations shall be directed to respond (i) to priority questions within three weeks of the Joint Clerks sending them, and (ii) to all other questions within six weeks of the Joint Clerks sending them, provided that a failure to respond to questions shall be approached by the Committee as if a witness declined to respond to an oral question asked at a Committee meeting; and (d) the Joint Clerks shall arrange for translation of the responses received and circulate them to Committee members and publish them on the Committee's website upon completion of the translation.
Mr. Green, you have the floor.
View Rhéal Fortin Profile
BQ (QC)
Thank you, Mr. Green.
Mr. White, you have the floor.
View Rhéal Fortin Profile
BQ (QC)
Thank you, Mr. White.
Please go ahead, Mr. Virani.
View Rhéal Fortin Profile
BQ (QC)
Thank you, Mr. Virani.
Mr. Motz, you have the floor.
View Rachel Bendayan Profile
Lib. (QC)
[Technical difficulty—Editor] limit the number of questions?
View Rhéal Fortin Profile
BQ (QC)
You have the floor, Mr. Green.
View Rhéal Fortin Profile
BQ (QC)
Before we hear from Senator Carignan and Mr. Virani, I want to make sure everything is clear.
Mr. Motz, you proposed an amendment, is that correct? It was a favourable amendment, but we are discussing it.
View Rhéal Fortin Profile
BQ (QC)
Are we agreed to adopt the amendment?
Ms. Burke just pointed out that Mr. Motz cannot propose an amendment to his own motion. But if someone else proposes the same amendment, are we agreed on the principle?
View Rhéal Fortin Profile
BQ (QC)
Senator Carignan, you have the floor. Next is Ms. Bendayan.
View Rhéal Fortin Profile
BQ (QC)
The amended motion would therefore propose that committee members may submit their questions to the joint clerks up to seven days after the witness appeared. Is that everyone's understanding?
Agreed.
Was there anything else, Senator Carignan?
View Rhéal Fortin Profile
BQ (QC)
We will now hear from Ms. Bendayan, followed by Ms. Cordy and Senator White.
Please go ahead, Ms. Bendayan.
View Rachel Bendayan Profile
Lib. (QC)
Thank you, Mr. Chair.
To begin, I would like to speak to Senator Carignan's proposed amendment.
Out of consideration for our witnesses, we have to remember that not all witnesses will be able to answer 30 or 50 questions in seven days. They have other things to do. Furthermore, we do not know how many questions there will be, since we have not discussed that yet.
View Rhéal Fortin Profile
BQ (QC)
Pardon me, I would like to say something. The amendment proposes that the members provide their questions to the Joint Clerks within seven days after the witnesses appear, not that the witnesses must answer them within that timeframe.
View Rachel Bendayan Profile
Lib. (QC)
Thank you for pointing that out, Mr. Chair.
I will limit my remarks to the following. As you know, our meetings are now just two hours long. If we have two groups of witnesses for one hour each, it is very likely that we will not be able to discuss all the possible topics with them. If we send written questions that are unrelated to the testimony they gave before the Committee, that is not fair. We would be opening Pandora's boxes in writing and would not be able, as several people pointed out, to see the witnesses, look them in the eyes and listen to what they have to say.
This is something that could happen, which in terms of fairness and procedure I find very difficult to accept.
View Rhéal Fortin Profile
BQ (QC)
Senator Cordy, you have the floor.
View Rhéal Fortin Profile
BQ (QC)
Senator White, you have the floor.
View Rhéal Fortin Profile
BQ (QC)
Mr. Virani, you have the floor.
View Rhéal Fortin Profile
BQ (QC)
Thank you, Mr. Virani.
Mr. Green, you have the floor.
View Rhéal Fortin Profile
BQ (QC)
Thank you, Mr. Green.
Mr. Motz, you have the floor.
View Rhéal Fortin Profile
BQ (QC)
First, I would like to check if Senator Carignan and Senator Boniface are the only ones who wish to speak. They are the only ones on my list. Is there anyone else?
Mr. Green, did you want to say something now?
View Rhéal Fortin Profile
BQ (QC)
Okay.
Please go ahead, Senator Carignan.
View Rhéal Fortin Profile
BQ (QC)
Thank you, Senator Carignan.
Senator Boniface, you have the floor.
View Rhéal Fortin Profile
BQ (QC)
Mr. Green, you have the floor. Then it will be Mr. Virani's turn.
View Rhéal Fortin Profile
BQ (QC)
So you are proposing that we suspend the meeting.
View Rhéal Fortin Profile
BQ (QC)
Is everyone agreed?
Voices: Agreed.
The Joint Co-Chair (Mr. Rhéal Fortin): So we will break for five...
View Rhéal Fortin Profile
BQ (QC)
Right now, the only amendments to the motion as drafted would require members to submit their questions within seven days after the witnesses appeared rather than before they appear. I do not think there are any other changes to the original motion. I will let you think about it.
The meeting is suspended.
View Rhéal Fortin Profile
BQ (QC)
We will now resume our meeting, colleagues.
I bet Ms. Burke that the meeting would end at 7:30 pm. Otherwise, I will owe her a coffee. So please help me out.
Mr. Motz, you have an amended motion to propose; please read it out.
View Rhéal Fortin Profile
BQ (QC)
Do we have the revised motion in writing?
View Rhéal Fortin Profile
BQ (QC)
It is for the minutes.
View Rhéal Fortin Profile
BQ (QC)
That will not be necessary. Ms. Burke says it is okay.
I believe everyone agrees to the amended motion.
(Motion as amended agreed to [See Minutes of Proceedings])
View Rhéal Fortin Profile
BQ (QC)
Here is Motion 4:That the Committee, noting the frustrations of its members with certain witnesses evading questions or declining to answer questions on grounds not conceded by this Committee or the law of parliamentary privilege, invite the Law Clerk and Parliamentary Counsel of the Senate, the Deputy Law Clerk and Parliamentary Counsel of the House of Commons, and representatives of both Houses' procedural services to brief the Committee as soon as possible concerning the rights of committees to procure responses to oral questioning and the procedures for compelling those responses.
I suspect the translation into French is not up to par. Perhaps the English version is better. The wording in French, “contraindre ces réponses”, for the English “compelling those answers” is incorrect.
Mr. Motz, would you like to present your motion?
View Rhéal Fortin Profile
BQ (QC)
Does anyone else wish to speak to Motion 4?
Mr. Virani, you have the floor.
View Rhéal Fortin Profile
BQ (QC)
Could you repeat the amendment you are proposing, Mr. Virani?
View Rhéal Fortin Profile
BQ (QC)
Does everyone agree to the amended motion?
(Motion as amended agreed to [See Minutes of Proceedings])
The Joint Co‑Chair (Mr. Rhéal Fortin): Moving on to Motion 5, it reads as follows:
That the Committee publish on its website the documents which were produced in response to its order of May 31, 2022, and circulated to Committee members in July 2022.
Senator Boniface, would you like to say something?
View Rhéal Fortin Profile
BQ (QC)
In that case, I suggest we drop the last part. The motion would therefore end with “ [...] in response to its order of May 31, 2022.”
Is that what you were thinking, Senator Boniface?
View Rhéal Fortin Profile
BQ (QC)
You are right.
Does everyone agree to the amended motion?
View Rhéal Fortin Profile
BQ (QC)
And now for Motion 6:
That the Committee finds the responses of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police and the Department of Justice to its May 31, 2022, order to be unacceptable and is of the opinion that a potential contempt has occurred as a result and, therefore, (a) directs the Joint Clerks and analysts to prepare a succinct interim report setting out the material facts of the situation; and (b) instructs the Joint Chairs to present this report to both Houses as soon as it has been prepared.
Mr. Virani, you have the floor.
View Rhéal Fortin Profile
BQ (QC)
Senator White, you have the floor.
View Rhéal Fortin Profile
BQ (QC)
Thank you, Senator White.
Mr. Green, you have the floor.
View Rhéal Fortin Profile
BQ (QC)
View Rhéal Fortin Profile
BQ (QC)
Could you please repeat that, Mr. Green?
View Rhéal Fortin Profile
BQ (QC)
Okay. That seems to be another motion, though.
View Rhéal Fortin Profile
BQ (QC)
Pardon me. So you are looking for clarification now.
View Rhéal Fortin Profile
BQ (QC)
Thank you, Mr. Green.
Ms. Burke, can you answer the question?
View Rhéal Fortin Profile
BQ (QC)
I would rather let you answer.
View Rhéal Fortin Profile
BQ (QC)
Thank you, Mr. Green.
Mr. Motz, you have the floor.
View Rhéal Fortin Profile
BQ (QC)
Have you finished, Mr. Motz?
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