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View Ken McDonald Profile
Lib. (NL)
View Ken McDonald Profile
2022-08-19 15:39
Thank you, Mr. Chair.
I want to say a big thank you to my colleague, the MP for Bonavista—Burin—Trinity, for asking me to fill in for him at this committee meeting today.
We've heard a lot today about one topic in particular, and that's the airline passenger bill of rights. That was pushed by a good friend of mine, a man by the name of Woodrow French, who lives not too far from my home. We live in the same town. He was at it for years. Finally a government listened, and that government was the Liberal government. I think it was Minister Garneau at the time.
To the officials, does the airline passenger bill of rights do what it was intended to do when it comes to protecting airline passengers? Should it be tweaked if it's not doing its intended end-of-the-day product, protection for anyone using our airlines, whether domestically or commercially?
View Ken McDonald Profile
Lib. (NL)
View Ken McDonald Profile
2022-08-19 15:41
Thank you for that.
Next, we hear a lot about mandates, whether it's vaccination mandates or masking mandates or anything else, from the Conservative side, who never, ever supported the introduction of any mandates whatsoever, whether it be masking or vaccination or travel restrictions. Do you believe that the mandates were necessary programs to bring in when COVID first struck our area here in Canada and any of the provinces? Do you think that because of the mandates we've managed to save thousands and thousands of lives? There are people still dying from COVID, but of course, as we know, when it first came to our country and exploded in many provinces, many people did die from the disease—probably people who shouldn't have died or wouldn't have died, only for COVID, which was the main contributor to it.
Do you think we should still pay attention to the public health officials who are recommending that we do this or we do that, or that it's time to drop this or drop that—in essence, I guess, at the end of the day, protecting Canadians' lives, whether they're coming from abroad, or travelling from province to province, or using any entity for travel, whether it be ferries, trains or planes?
View Joanne Thompson Profile
Lib. (NL)
I'm hearing him fine. Maybe we can use our headsets.
View Ken McDonald Profile
Lib. (NL)
View Ken McDonald Profile
2022-06-21 11:03
I call the meeting to order.
Welcome to meeting number 30 of the House of Commons Standing Committee on Fisheries and Oceans. Pursuant to Standing Order 108(2) and the motion adopted on February 1, 2022, the committee is resuming its study on science at the Department of Fisheries and Oceans.
This meeting is taking place in a hybrid format pursuant to the House order of November 25, 2021. For those participating by video conference, when you are ready to speak, click on the icon to activate your microphone and please speak slowly and clearly. When you are not speaking, your microphone should be on mute. For interpretation, you have the choice at the bottom of your screen of floor, English or French, and I'll remind everyone that all comments should be addressed through the chair.
I'd now like to welcome our witnesses for today.
From the Atlantic Groundfish Council we have Kris Vascotto, executive director. From Bait Masters, we have Mark Prevost, president. Wally MacPhee, who is vice-president, is joining as we speak. From the Gulf Nova Scotia Fishermen's Coalition, we have Leonard LeBlanc, professional adviser. From Ocean Choice International, we have Carey Bonnell, vice-president, sustainability and engagement.
Can we say before we start that, if we are interrupted by a vote, we will plan to do it virtually on the phone and then when we all get it done we can continue on so that we are not so long?
Some hon. members: Agreed.
The Chair: Okay. That's perfect.
We'll begin now with Kris Vascotto from the Atlantic Groundfish Council for opening remarks.
Please go ahead for five minutes or less.
View Ken McDonald Profile
Lib. (NL)
View Ken McDonald Profile
2022-06-21 11:10
Thank you.
We'll now go to Mr. LeBlanc for five minutes or less, please.
View Ken McDonald Profile
Lib. (NL)
View Ken McDonald Profile
2022-06-21 11:15
Thank you for that.
We'll now go to Mr. Bonnell for five minutes or less, please.
View Ken McDonald Profile
Lib. (NL)
View Ken McDonald Profile
2022-06-21 11:20
Thank you for that.
We'll now go to Mr. Prevost for five minutes or less, please.
View Ken McDonald Profile
Lib. (NL)
View Ken McDonald Profile
2022-06-21 11:27
Thank you for that.
I'll just state, Mr. Prevost, that we're not interested right now in hearing from scientists. We want to hear from people in the industry like yourselves, so thank you again for doing this today.
We'll now go to our rounds of questioning.
Before I go to Mr. Perkins for six minutes or less, I will remind members to please try to identify who you want to answer the question. You'll make better use of your time.
Mr. Perkins, we'll go to you for six minutes or less.
View Ken McDonald Profile
Lib. (NL)
View Ken McDonald Profile
2022-06-21 11:33
I have your time paused, so you won't lose it.
I have to ask for unanimous consent to continue since the bells are ringing. I see the lights flashing. I thought that's what I asked for at the beginning at the meeting, but somebody is telling me in my ear that I still have to ask for it.
You have 26 seconds left, Mr. Perkins.
View Ken McDonald Profile
Lib. (NL)
View Ken McDonald Profile
2022-06-21 11:34
Thank you, Mr. Perkins. Your time is up.
I will remind members that it's a 15-minute bell. We all agreed earlier that we'd vote from where we sit. When the vote is actually called, we'll get to it.
We'll go now to Mr. Kelloway for six minutes or less.
View Ken McDonald Profile
Lib. (NL)
View Ken McDonald Profile
2022-06-21 11:41
It's gone way over.
We'll now go to Madame Desbiens for six minutes or less, please.
View Ken McDonald Profile
Lib. (NL)
View Ken McDonald Profile
2022-06-21 11:43
At the bottom of your screen you can select floor, English or French. If you select English, it will be translated into your ear as it's being spoken in French here in the room.
View Ken McDonald Profile
Lib. (NL)
View Ken McDonald Profile
2022-06-21 11:43
I will ask Madame Desbiens to ask the question again as short as possible and allow you to give an answer.
View Ken McDonald Profile
Lib. (NL)
View Ken McDonald Profile
2022-06-21 11:48
I'm sorry, Madame Desbiens. Your time has gone over.
View Ken McDonald Profile
Lib. (NL)
View Ken McDonald Profile
2022-06-21 11:48
I did allow an extra minute for the question that Mr. Prevost didn't hear, or get translated.
We'll now go to Ms. Barron for six minutes or less, please.
View Ken McDonald Profile
Lib. (NL)
View Ken McDonald Profile
2022-06-21 11:56
Thank you, Ms. Barron. We're a bit over time.
We'll go to Mr. Arnold to see if we can get his five minutes in before we have to take part in a vote.
View Ken McDonald Profile
Lib. (NL)
View Ken McDonald Profile
2022-06-21 12:01
Mr. Arnold, you have only about 12 seconds left.
View Ken McDonald Profile
Lib. (NL)
View Ken McDonald Profile
2022-06-21 12:01
You won't get an answer in.
View Ken McDonald Profile
Lib. (NL)
View Ken McDonald Profile
2022-06-21 12:01
You won't.
View Ken McDonald Profile
Lib. (NL)
View Ken McDonald Profile
2022-06-21 12:02
I'll give you your 15 seconds when we get back.
I think we have to pay attention to what's happening in the House. There's a vote called and the time is counting down.
We're going to take a very short recess to enable members to vote. We've all agreed to stay in the room and do it by phone or through the app. We'll get back to the business of the committee very shortly.
We'll take a quick recess to enable people to vote.
View Ken McDonald Profile
Lib. (NL)
View Ken McDonald Profile
2022-06-21 12:06
We're back.
Mr. Arnold, I have 30 seconds on my clock now.
You can start when you like. That's for the question and the answer.
View Ken McDonald Profile
Lib. (NL)
View Ken McDonald Profile
2022-06-21 12:08
Thank you, Mr. Arnold.
We'll now go to Mr. Cormier for five minutes or less, please.
View Ken McDonald Profile
Lib. (NL)
View Ken McDonald Profile
2022-06-21 12:13
Thank you, Mr. Cormier. You've gone over your five minutes, actually.
We'll now go to Madame Desbiens for two and a half minutes.
View Ken McDonald Profile
Lib. (NL)
View Ken McDonald Profile
2022-06-21 12:15
Thank you, Madame Desbiens. There are only eight seconds left. I don't think we'll have much time for a question or answer.
Ms. Barron, you have two and a half minutes.
View Ken McDonald Profile
Lib. (NL)
View Ken McDonald Profile
2022-06-21 12:18
Thank you, Ms. Barron.
We'll now go to Mr. Small for five minutes or less, please.
View Clifford Small Profile
CPC (NL)
Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Thank you to all the witnesses for coming here today.
My first question is for Mr. Bonnell.
Mr. Bonnell, what are the industry implications of the missed Coast Guard vessel surveys over the past three years, and how could the minister create a pertinent management plan without those assessments?
View Clifford Small Profile
CPC (NL)
Mr. Bonnell, what are your views on how government could more readily engage industry in research vessel surveys?
View Clifford Small Profile
CPC (NL)
View Ken McDonald Profile
Lib. (NL)
View Ken McDonald Profile
2022-06-21 12:23
Thank you, Mr. Small.
We'll now go to Mr. Morrissey for five minutes or less, please.
View Ken McDonald Profile
Lib. (NL)
View Ken McDonald Profile
2022-06-21 12:29
Thank you, Mr. Morrissey.
We'll now go to Mr. Perkins for five minutes or less, please.
View Ken McDonald Profile
Lib. (NL)
View Ken McDonald Profile
2022-06-21 12:35
Thank you, Mr. Perkins.
We will now go to Mr. Hanley, for five minutes or less, please.
View Ken McDonald Profile
Lib. (NL)
View Ken McDonald Profile
2022-06-21 12:41
Thank you, Mr. Hanley.
We'll now go to Madame Desbiens for two and a half minutes, please.
View Ken McDonald Profile
Lib. (NL)
View Ken McDonald Profile
2022-06-21 12:44
Thank you.
We'll now go to Ms. Barron for two and a half minutes.
View Ken McDonald Profile
Lib. (NL)
View Ken McDonald Profile
2022-06-21 12:47
Thank you, Ms. Barron.
We'll now go to Mr. Arnold for five minutes or less.
View Ken McDonald Profile
Lib. (NL)
View Ken McDonald Profile
2022-06-21 12:52
Thank you, Mr. Perkins.
We'll now go to Mr. Kelloway for five minutes or less.
View Ken McDonald Profile
Lib. (NL)
View Ken McDonald Profile
2022-06-21 12:52
Okay. We'll go to Mr. Cormier.
View Ken McDonald Profile
Lib. (NL)
View Ken McDonald Profile
2022-06-21 12:57
I'm sorry, Mr. Cormier, but your time has gone over.
We'll finish up now with Mr. Small for five minutes or less.
View Clifford Small Profile
CPC (NL)
Thank you, Mr. Chair.
I have one more quick question for Mr. Bonnell.
In terms of stakeholder input in fishery science, do you have any examples of suggestions industry has put forward to DFO but were shrugged off?
View Clifford Small Profile
CPC (NL)
Thank you, Mr. Bonnell.
Staying on the topic of stock assessments, my question is for Mr. Vascotto.
Mr. Vascotto, do you see a trend developing in stock assessments in terms of input of ENGOs such as Oceans North, for example? Is there a trend in the change in who's having input on stock assessment versus the input of industry stakeholders?
View Clifford Small Profile
CPC (NL)
Again, Dr. Vascotto, are you concerned with the changes in assessment models that are putting fish stocks further into the critical zone than they previously were?
View Clifford Small Profile
CPC (NL)
Thank you.
My last, quick question here is going to be to Mr. Prevost. It's on Asian carp. I heard you reference that, I think, last year Maine used seven million pounds of Asian carp, a dead, frozen product. Do you have concerns about introducing Asian carp into the Atlantic Ocean, just given the fact that it's dead?
View Ken McDonald Profile
Lib. (NL)
View Ken McDonald Profile
2022-06-21 13:03
Thank you, Mr. Small.
That brings an end to our meeting today.
I want to say a big thank you to our witnesses who took the time out to share their knowledge with the committee today. It's greatly appreciated.
A big thank you to everybody involved making today's meeting a success: interpreters, clerks, analysts and everybody behind the scenes.
I want to let everyone know that there will be no meeting on Thursday as we didn't line anything up. If you recall, we mentioned last meeting, the meeting before and probably the meeting before that, that we wouldn't book anything for Thursday as it is the last day the House is supposed to sit.
Of course, we could be swamped with votes or we might have no votes. We don't know. It's too late to line up witnesses. Of course, everything else being what it is, there will be no meeting on Thursday, so I hope everybody has an opportunity to have a restful, enjoyable, productive summer. I hope to see everyone back in good form in September.
View Ken McDonald Profile
Lib. (NL)
View Ken McDonald Profile
2022-06-21 13:04
If you can make that work, buddy, you're welcome to it. Actually, you can have lunch on us today.
Go ahead, Ms. Desbiens.
View Ken McDonald Profile
Lib. (NL)
View Ken McDonald Profile
2022-06-21 13:05
The meeting is adjourned.
View Churence Rogers Profile
Lib. (NL)
On a point of order, Mr. Chair, are we going to proceed and have the witnesses endure this debate, or are we going to dismiss the witnesses?
View Churence Rogers Profile
Lib. (NL)
Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Mr. Chair, I understand and I recognize, of course, the legitimacy of all parliamentarians to engage in this debate, ask questions and seek information. However, I also recognize that every government, regardless of political stripe, needs to protect certain kinds of information for reasons of confidentiality—which I think most members understand—and to protect legally commercially sensitive information that could cause harm were it to be made public. Also, in order to do this, we need to follow some kind of protocol that preserves confidentiality around cabinet tables and ministers' offices for full and frank discussions in the same way, I would suggest, that MPs need a certain degree of privacy for discussion at caucus or with their staff, for example.
That's what I find this motion is trying to achieve, and I certainly can't support that, although I certainly support the amendment of my colleague.
Mr. Badawey made reference to the fact that we had people here from the Public Health Agency of Canada who could have spent time answering questions for any member of the opposition or of the government in reference to what this motion is attempting to do. We could have gotten direct information from officials who are certainly very knowledgeable and would have provided some good information to all of us and to the public at large. In fact, the questioning certainly could have gotten to many of the answers that some people suggest they haven't gotten.
I think this motion is somewhat contradictory. When I look at some of the positions of some of the parties in terms of vaccinations and the kinds of things we've been trying to do, not accepting the amendment here seems almost anti-science. It's disappointing. It's certainly a stance that is contradictory—to me, anyway—to the stance that the NDP has taken this entire time in supporting vaccinations and other measures.
I don't know, as Mr. Badawey said earlier, what the objective is here, but I think the amendment by my colleague, Ms. Koutrakis, certainly is something that deserves every consideration. At the same time, the amended motion, I think, would certainly achieve what we would like to achieve, and that is to make sure we have some transparency and that people get the information they need.
The strange part about this committee—and I have to say this as well, like Mr. Badawey said—is that I think we've been doing some great work here for the last six, seven or eight months. We've been producing some good reports, some great reports, actually, with some excellent recommendations, and we've been very productive.
However, I don't see how this motion that was advanced by the opposition would do anything for us other than create turmoil within the public service. They would have to do this production of documents, which would take up a great deal of time and cost a lot of extra money for the taxpayers. Also, these are documents that, I think, would defy confidentiality and the kind of information that all governments need to protect. What kind of a system would we have if we couldn't have a certain kind of confidence in what our elected leaders do?
I know, for example, just as a small-town mayor, that many of the things we discussed were not made public, but that was for the right reasons. That was because we wanted to protect the identity of a certain individual in the community or the confidentiality of that person. That person, as a member of my community, deserved to be treated with the utmost respect.
You can't have a discussion about individuals, organizations, groups or businesses and expect that everybody that could get access to the information would truly understand the context in which it's presented. We have to have certain regulations and certain things that we need to consider to be of a confidential nature. For us to try to pass a motion that requests “all relevant documents” is, I think, a bit of a stretch. It sets a precedent. It sets a precedent that is not good for this government or for any future government.
I certainly would not vote to support that kind of a motion, but I would certainly be prepared to accept the amendment from my colleague Ms. Koutrakis and try to move forward around those kinds of amendments.
Mr. Chair, I'd like to say that maybe we should be considering another amendment, if you want to call it that, or an addition to the current amendment that was proposed by Ms. Koutrakis.
I'd like to add the following clause to the motion, and that would be “that the production of documents be consistent with relevant legislation concerning confidentiality”. I'd like to propose that as an addition to the motion.
View Churence Rogers Profile
Lib. (NL)
Yes. It's “that the production of documents be consistent with relevant legislation concerning confidentiality”, because confidentiality is something that we need to preserve in our democratic system.
Mr. Chair, if the clerk got that, I'd be prepared to move that as an add-on to the amended motion.
View Ken McDonald Profile
Lib. (NL)
View Ken McDonald Profile
2022-06-14 11:08
Good morning, everyone. I now call this meeting to order.
Welcome to meeting number 28 of the House of Commons Standing Committee on Fisheries and Oceans.
Pursuant to Standing Order 108(2) and the motion adopted on February 1, 2022, the committee is resuming its study of science at the Department of Fisheries and Oceans.
This meeting is taking place in a hybrid format pursuant to the House order of November 25, 2021.
For those participating by video conference, when you are ready to speak, click on the icon to activate your mike, and please speak slowly and clearly. When you are not speaking, your mike should be on mute. For interpretation, you have the choice at the bottom of your screen of either the floor, English or French. I'll remind everyone that all comments should be addressed through the chair.
I'd now like to welcome our witnesses for today.
Of course, no strangers to THE committee and no strangers to fisheries issues, we have, as individuals, Mr. Robert Hardy, fisheries consultant, and Mr. Christopher Jones, retired senior fisheries manager, Department of Fisheries and Oceans. They're trying to work out some technical difficulties to get Mr. Jones connected properly.
We also have with us Andrew Trites, professor, marine mammal research unit, Institute for the Oceans and Fisheries, University of British Columbia. Furthermore, from the David Suzuki Foundation, we have Jeffery Young, senior science and policy analyst; from Oceana Canada, Robert Rangeley, director of science; and from Wild First, Sean Jones.
We will go to our rounds of opening statements now.
We'll first go to Mr. Hardy for five minutes or less, please.
View Ken McDonald Profile
Lib. (NL)
View Ken McDonald Profile
2022-06-14 11:15
Thank you, Mr. Hardy.
I see Mr. Jones is all connected.
Mr. Jones, you can go with your opening statement up to five minutes or less, please. No, you're still on mute. You have gone back on mute again.
Can we ask tech to get in touch with Mr. Jones to see if we can get that straightened out?
We will go to Andrew Trites next.
View Ken McDonald Profile
Lib. (NL)
View Ken McDonald Profile
2022-06-14 11:21
Thank you.
We'll now go to Dr. Rangeley from Oceana Canada for five minutes or less, please.
View Ken McDonald Profile
Lib. (NL)
View Ken McDonald Profile
2022-06-14 11:26
Thank you for that.
We'll now go to Mr. Sean Jones for five minutes or less, please.
View Ken McDonald Profile
Lib. (NL)
View Ken McDonald Profile
2022-06-14 11:30
We're going to have to pause for a second, Mr. Jones, because we're not getting interpretation.
Is it good now? Okay.
Please continue, Mr. Jones.
View Ken McDonald Profile
Lib. (NL)
View Ken McDonald Profile
2022-06-14 11:31
Thank you for that.
We'll now go to Mr. Young for five minutes or less.
View Ken McDonald Profile
Lib. (NL)
View Ken McDonald Profile
2022-06-14 11:37
Thank you for that.
We'll now go back and try Mr. Christopher Jones again.
You have five minutes or less....
You're still on mute.
View Ken McDonald Profile
Lib. (NL)
View Ken McDonald Profile
2022-06-14 11:42
Thank you for that.
We'll now go to our rounds of questioning.
Before I start, I neglected to mention that Mr. Kram is joining us today in place of Mr. Zimmer, and Ms. Valdez is replacing Mr. Kelloway.
Welcome to FOPO.
We'll now go to the rounds of questioning of witnesses. I will ask members to please identify who you want to answer the question. We have six witnesses here today. I don't want everybody staring at the screen or wondering who the question is for. It's your time, but you'll lose time if you don't identify who you want to answer your question.
We'll first go to Mr. Perkins for six minutes or less, please.
View Ken McDonald Profile
Lib. (NL)
View Ken McDonald Profile
2022-06-14 11:44
Mr. Jones, before you start to answer, could you move your mike up a little higher? The interpreters are getting some static from it.
Okay. Try it again now with your answer, please.
View Ken McDonald Profile
Lib. (NL)
View Ken McDonald Profile
2022-06-14 11:50
Thank you, Mr. Perkins.
We'll now go to Mr. Hardie for six minutes or less, please.
View Ken McDonald Profile
Lib. (NL)
View Ken McDonald Profile
2022-06-14 11:56
Thank you, Mr. Hardie.
We'll now go to Madame Desbiens for six minutes or less.
View Ken McDonald Profile
Lib. (NL)
View Ken McDonald Profile
2022-06-14 11:57
Mr. Hardy, on the bottom of your screen, there should be something you can hit for interpretation. You can pick “floor”, “English” or “French”. If you want to hear everything in English, pick “English”. If you want to hear it in French, pick “French”.
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