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Committee Evidence - LANG-53

2023-03-10

Lib. (NB)

René Arseneault (Madawaska—Restigouche)

2023-03-10 8:52

I call the meeting to order.

Welcome to meeting number 53 of the House of Commons Standing Committee on Official Languages.

Pursuant to our routine motion, I want to let you know that all members and all witnesses did the necessary connection tests before the meeting.

Pursuant to the order of reference adopted on Monday, May 30, 2022, the committee is resuming its examination of Bill C‑13, An Act to amend the Official Languages Act, to enact the Use of French in Federally Regulated Private Businesses Act and to make related amendments to other Acts.

Welcome to the officials from the Department of Canadian Heritage, Treasury Board Secretariat, and the Department of Citizenship and Immigration, who are here to support the committee on technical issues.

From the Department of Canadian Heritage, we again have with us Ms. Boyer, Mr. Fallu and Ms. Terrien.

From the Department of Citizenship and Immigration, we have Mr. Saint-Germain, who will be joining us shortly by videoconference.

From Treasury Board Secretariat, we again have Mr. Quell with us.

Before beginning, I would like to give you a few updates.

Mr. Beaulieu, are you wanting to speak to the agenda?

C-13, An Act to amend the Official Langu ...

BQ (QC)

Mario Beaulieu (La Pointe-de-l'Île)

2023-03-10 8:54

I would like to move a motion for us to go immediately to the part of the meeting dealing with committee business, to discuss and clarify the situation. If all goes well, it will go quickly. If there is debate, the time will not be deducted from the time devoted to the clause‑by‑clause consideration of the bill.

Lib. (NB)

René Arseneault (Madawaska—Restigouche)

2023-03-10 8:54

What are you proposing, exactly?

BQ (QC)

Mario Beaulieu (La Pointe-de-l'Île)

2023-03-10 8:54

I am proposing that we go immediately to committee business to discuss the motion and clarify the situation.

Lib. (NB)

René Arseneault (Madawaska—Restigouche)

2023-03-10 8:54

Are you talking about motions we have received or the one we talked about on Tuesday?

BQ (QC)

Mario Beaulieu (La Pointe-de-l'Île)

2023-03-10 8:54

An amendment was adopted, and now we have to vote on Mr. Godin's amended motion. If all goes well, we will come back right away to the clause‑by‑clause study of the bill. It's so we avoid wasting too much time.

Lib. (ON)

Marc Serré (Nickel Belt)

2023-03-10 8:54

Mr. Chair, I think you wanted to give an update on all that. We are going to vote against Mr. Beaulieu's proposal, but we should let you give your update.

Lib. (NB)

René Arseneault (Madawaska—Restigouche)

2023-03-10 8:55

Just a moment, please.

If I understand correctly, Mr. Beaulieu is moving a motion for us to go to committee business. It's a dilatory motion, so there is no debate and we have to vote on it immediately, agreed?

CPC (QC)

Joël Godin (Portneuf—Jacques-Cartier)

2023-03-10 8:55

Wait, Mr. Chair. Before proceeding to the vote, I want to understand.

If we go to committee business, are we coming back to the motions that were before us and the proposed amendment to the motion?

Lib. (NB)

René Arseneault (Madawaska—Restigouche)

2023-03-10 8:55

That is what Mr. Beaulieu is proposing, that is, that we go to committee business and do exactly that.

Have I understood correctly, Mr. Beaulieu?

BQ (QC)

Mario Beaulieu (La Pointe-de-l'Île)

2023-03-10 8:55

Yes.

CPC (QC)

Joël Godin (Portneuf—Jacques-Cartier)

2023-03-10 8:55

Fine.

We can vote now, Mr. Chair.

Lib. (NB)

René Arseneault (Madawaska—Restigouche)

2023-03-10 8:55

Mr. Drouin, you have the floor.

Lib. (ON)

Francis Drouin (Glengarry—Prescott—Russell)

2023-03-10 8:55

I just want to clarify something.

The fact that we are in clause‑by‑clause study of a bill doesn't mean that a member may not present a motion. I am talking about a motion like the one we discussed last time. There is nothing to prevent Mr. Beaulieu from presenting it now, is that not right?

Lib. (NB)

René Arseneault (Madawaska—Restigouche)

2023-03-10 8:56

That is correct.

If I may, Mr. Beaulieu, before we come back to that, I'm going to finish what I was going to say before beginning the meeting. You have moved a motion and we are going to vote on it, unless you withdraw it if you think it is not necessary.

I was going to tell you that there was a lot of confusion on Tuesday. Among other things, there were some technical difficulties that cut into the meeting considerably.

So, first, I would like to tell you that I have decided that the last meeting would not be considered to be the eighth meeting. So today we are starting the eighth of the eight meetings provided for by the first motion.

The second thing I wanted to tell you concerns the motion we were debating, but before talking about that, it has to be moved. I will talk about it at that point.

Mario Beaulieu - 8:57

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