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View Rob Moore Profile
CPC (NB)
All right. Well, I'll try to ask my questions quickly.
Thank you to all the witnesses. I do have some quick questions.
Ms. Jay, you summed up very nicely the response of Bill C-36 to the Bedford decision by saying that the “exploiters are criminalized”. We do believe that this is exploitative. We heard from Ms. Stevenson about predation, about the exploiting and the exploiters. You summed it up by saying that the exploiters are criminalized and the exploited are not criminalized. I think that should be a goal that we all share.
Could you expand on that? You summed it up nicely, but could you expand on that a bit and about how PCEPA works?
View Rob Moore Profile
CPC (NB)
I'll end it at two and a half. I'm trying to get along with everybody.
Ms. Stevenson, we do hear some people speak...and it's like we're pretending that this is not exploitative. You set out very clearly in your remarks, from a personal perspective, how some people who are being exploited don't even realize it until later.
Could you expand on that quickly? You mentioned the exploitative nature. Is it fair to say that this isn't exploitative in most cases?
View Rob Moore Profile
CPC (NB)
Thank you, Chair.
You know, it's become clear that we could easily spend three hours with this panel, because there is so much great information being provided and so much expertise and real-life experience.
I think we have to be very clear as well. Bill C-36, which was a response to the Bedford decision, makes it very clear that selling your own sexual services is protected from criminal liability. It's already decriminalized. What people who are calling for full decriminalization now are saying that, obtaining sexual services for consideration, those who buy, sell and exploit.... As Cathy Peters and other witnesses have identified, the vast majority being exploited are women. That this should somehow be legal, that we should decriminalize the purchase and sale of Canadians, mostly women, many people, of course, reject outright.
You made a number of statements that I want to hone in on kind of quickly. One, you mentioned Canada's potential to become “America's brothel”. You drew on your experience in B.C., where you said that the legislation that was passed in 2014 is not being enforced. You're seeing evidence of how different provinces are treating it.
Could you explore that a little further and how the failure to enforce this law leads to more victimization?
View Rob Moore Profile
CPC (NB)
Thank you, Ms. Levman and Ms. Morency. It's great to see both of you again. I take it from your testimony about the disproportionate impact that those charged with purchase and profiting post Bill C-36 are men and the victims are disproportionately women.
You took us through how Bill C-36 was a response from Parliament to the Bedford decision. Can you expand a bit more on any information you have through the department on the effectiveness of Bill C-36? I know that's always an interesting point, when we see government having to respond to a court decision. Bill C-36 was that response. Can you expand a bit on the effectiveness of this bill when it comes to going after those who are profiting from the sale of others' sexual services?
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