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View Rob Moore Profile
CPC (NB)
Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Thank you to all of our witnesses today as we finish up a very important study.
We know that this legislation came about after the Bedford decision. It's an attempt to strike the right balance, but there are always improvements that can be made.
I note that just in the last few days we've seen the Court of Appeal for Ontario uphold several provisions of PCEPA, or Bill C-36. That brings us to this study. We're studying ways we can improve the law and how the laws work. We've certainly heard from a wide variety of witnesses, some who are very supportive of PCEPA.
I have a question for the Peers Victoria Resources Society. There are two witnesses here. I guess you can decide between yourselves who would like to answer.
It was mentioned that you provide harm reduction support services, education and employment training for current and former sex workers. Could either of you elaborate on what those support services look like, education and employment training as well? Perhaps share with the committee what that looks like typically, the services you are providing for your region.
View Rob Moore Profile
CPC (NB)
Really quickly, many of our witnesses so far have been describing, number one, that PCEPA is not enforced or in place equally across the country and in various provinces it's being applied differently.
I'll ask the Peers Victoria Resources Society, but, if there's time, someone else can jump in.
Could you give some feedback on the relationship between yourselves, those that you're serving and local law authorities, the police? Do you have any recommendations on how those relationships could be improved?
View Rob Moore Profile
CPC (NB)
All right. Well, I'll try to ask my questions quickly.
Thank you to all the witnesses. I do have some quick questions.
Ms. Jay, you summed up very nicely the response of Bill C-36 to the Bedford decision by saying that the “exploiters are criminalized”. We do believe that this is exploitative. We heard from Ms. Stevenson about predation, about the exploiting and the exploiters. You summed it up by saying that the exploiters are criminalized and the exploited are not criminalized. I think that should be a goal that we all share.
Could you expand on that? You summed it up nicely, but could you expand on that a bit and about how PCEPA works?
View Rob Moore Profile
CPC (NB)
I'll end it at two and a half. I'm trying to get along with everybody.
Ms. Stevenson, we do hear some people speak...and it's like we're pretending that this is not exploitative. You set out very clearly in your remarks, from a personal perspective, how some people who are being exploited don't even realize it until later.
Could you expand on that quickly? You mentioned the exploitative nature. Is it fair to say that this isn't exploitative in most cases?
View Rob Moore Profile
CPC (NB)
Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Thank you to all of our witnesses for appearing on what is a really important study of the Protection of Communities and Exploited Persons Act.
I was pleased to be part of a government that brought in that legislation, which criminalizes those who fuel and perpetuate the demand for prostitution by purchasing sexual services; protects those who sell their own sexual services; deals with the most vulnerable in our society; and makes sure the law is responsive to court decisions, but that we're doing our best to protect those who are vulnerable.
I want to ask a question of Mr. Paul Brandt. Thank you for appearing today. This is something you don't have to do in your time, but you spoke with great passion about what you saw in other countries. We heard from previous witnesses that the complete decriminalization of prostitution in Canada could lead us to becoming the brothel of the United States. It was really horrific to hear the description you gave about a country where this has been completely decriminalized.
Could you speak a bit more to that, as well as about #NotInMyCity, which is combatting human trafficking? I'm interested in hearing a bit more about that. There's a perception about human trafficking as being a big-city issue, but I'm from New Brunswick and, in some of our smaller Atlantic Canada communities, human trafficking is happening now. The corridors where people are trafficked are right across Canada.
If you could speak to that, I'd appreciate it.
View Rob Moore Profile
CPC (NB)
I see that I only have 30 seconds left, but I do have one quick follow-up question.
You mentioned that PCEPA is effective when enforced, and you mentioned the Alberta experience. I know you're an Albertan, but we have heard of other provinces where it's not being as effectively enforced.
Can you speak quickly to that?
View Rob Moore Profile
CPC (NB)
Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Thank you to all of our witnesses. It's great to hear from you and to hear about the work you're doing, both the YWCA Halifax and the Joy Smith Foundation. I appreciate your input into this very important study we're doing.
My question is for Joy Smith. You mentioned two private member’s bills that you were able to pass as a member of Parliament.
It's good to see you again. I served at the same time as you. I also appreciated.... I guess you were far less partisan than I was, so you were able to get strong support across the aisle for your private member's bills.
Can you speak a bit to the tie-in with what you're doing now and Bill C-36? What do your private member's bills do and what is their tie-in to Bill C-36?
View Rob Moore Profile
CPC (NB)
Thank you for your testimony.
I have only a few seconds left.
Ms. Gagnon, you mentioned the importance of education. You're doing work in grade 7 and grade 8. I'm sorry it's not a ton of time, but can you give us a couple of highlights of what that work is like?
View Rob Moore Profile
CPC (NB)
Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Thank you to both of our witnesses for their appearance today. I think this is very helpful for us in this study.
Ms. Kent, I appreciate the work you are doing in your collective. We're hearing a lot about Bill C-36, and I note that you raised the issue of survivors and said that listening to people who have had dealings in this industry would be advantageous for us.
From their feedback, what do you think would happen if Bill C-36 was completely repealed, meaning we have no criminalization whatsoever in this area?
View Rob Moore Profile
CPC (NB)
Thank you, Chair.
You know, it's become clear that we could easily spend three hours with this panel, because there is so much great information being provided and so much expertise and real-life experience.
I think we have to be very clear as well. Bill C-36, which was a response to the Bedford decision, makes it very clear that selling your own sexual services is protected from criminal liability. It's already decriminalized. What people who are calling for full decriminalization now are saying that, obtaining sexual services for consideration, those who buy, sell and exploit.... As Cathy Peters and other witnesses have identified, the vast majority being exploited are women. That this should somehow be legal, that we should decriminalize the purchase and sale of Canadians, mostly women, many people, of course, reject outright.
You made a number of statements that I want to hone in on kind of quickly. One, you mentioned Canada's potential to become “America's brothel”. You drew on your experience in B.C., where you said that the legislation that was passed in 2014 is not being enforced. You're seeing evidence of how different provinces are treating it.
Could you explore that a little further and how the failure to enforce this law leads to more victimization?
View Rob Moore Profile
CPC (NB)
Thank you for that response.
We don't have a ton of time, so we have to ask as many questions as we can in a short amount of time.
Jennifer Dunn, I want to give you a chance to speak as well about the work at LAWC. One things you said is, “Canada needs this legislation”. You used the word “incompatible” and said that we need to continue to criminalize the purchase and sale of human beings—mostly women. By taking the step to fully decriminalize, what we're saying is that you can buy people—mostly women—in Canada.
Do you want to expand on that from your experience at the London Abused Women's Centre?
View Rob Moore Profile
CPC (NB)
Thank you, Ms. Levman and Ms. Morency. It's great to see both of you again. I take it from your testimony about the disproportionate impact that those charged with purchase and profiting post Bill C-36 are men and the victims are disproportionately women.
You took us through how Bill C-36 was a response from Parliament to the Bedford decision. Can you expand a bit more on any information you have through the department on the effectiveness of Bill C-36? I know that's always an interesting point, when we see government having to respond to a court decision. Bill C-36 was that response. Can you expand a bit on the effectiveness of this bill when it comes to going after those who are profiting from the sale of others' sexual services?
View Rob Moore Profile
CPC (NB)
I don't have a ton of time, but thank you for that.
Are there any cases currently before the courts in which the federal government is intervening or planning to intervene to defend or support the law that's in place, the Criminal Code provisions?
View Rob Moore Profile
CPC (NB)
The advertisement online of sexual services is not an emerging issue anymore. It is an issue. What, if anything, is the department doing to improve the law on that front? We hear from police departments and others that greater tools are needed to remove certain ads from the Internet. Is the department doing anything in that regard?
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