//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgStart of sitting day1TRANSCRIPTBoard of Internal EconomyNUMBER 0211st SESSION44th PARLIAMENTThursday, June 15, 2023Le jeudi 15 juin 2023Board of Internal EconomyCANADA[Recorded by Electronic Apparatus]TRANSCRIPTJune 15, 2023CommitteeNUMBER 021NUMBER 021NUMÉRO 021021150620232023/06/15 11:05:00House Of CommonsBureau de régie interneBoard of Internal EconomyBOIE144AnthonyRotaHon.Nipissing—Timiskaming//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionThe Honourable Anthony Rota (Speaker of the House of Commons): (1100)[English]I call this meeting to order.We'll start off with item number 1.[Translation]Those are the minutes of the previous meeting on May 18. Are there any changes?[English]No...? Okay. We will proceed to item 2, business arising from previous meetings.I see nothing. We'll continue. Item number 3 is CPA conference surplus utilization. [Translation]The presenters will be Mr. d'Entremont, co‑chair, Joint Interparliamentary Council; and Jeremy LeBlanc, clerk assistant and director general, International and Interparliamentary Affairs.[English]Mr. d'Entremont, I give you the microphone. Chrisd'EntremontWest Nova//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1105)[English]Are there questions or comments?[Translation]Is all that clear?Okay.[English]Thank you for the presentation. Do we have consent around the table to approve the budget carry-forward for fiscal 2023-24?Mr. Scheer.FinancingInternational and Interparliamentary AffairsJoint Interparliamentary CouncilChrisd'EntremontWest NovaAndrewScheerHon.Regina—Qu'Appelle//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1105)[English]We don't have consent.Ms. Findlay.FinancingInternational and Interparliamentary AffairsJoint Interparliamentary CouncilAndrewScheerHon.Regina—Qu'AppelleKerry-LynneFindlayHon.South Surrey—White Rock//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1105)[English] What I'm getting is that we don't have consent to go ahead. I'm not seeing consent. Mr. Holland.FinancingInternational and Interparliamentary AffairsJoint Interparliamentary CouncilJeremyLeBlancMarkHollandHon.Ajax//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1110)[English]Now we'll go to Mr. Scheer, followed by Mr. Julian and then Ms. Sahota.Mr. Scheer.Chrisd'EntremontWest NovaAndrewScheerHon.Regina—Qu'Appelle//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1110)[English] Are there any other questions of comments?Okay. That's very good. We'll go to Mr. Julian, followed by Ms. Sahota.Mr. Julian.AndrewScheerHon.Regina—Qu'AppellePeterJulianNew Westminster—Burnaby//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1115)[English]Mr. Scheer.PeterJulianNew Westminster—BurnabyAndrewScheerHon.Regina—Qu'Appelle//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1115)[English]We have Ms. Sahota, followed by Mr. Holland.AndrewScheerHon.Regina—Qu'AppelleRubySahotaBrampton North//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1115)[English] We'll go to Mr. Holland and then over to Mr. Scheer again.RubySahotaBrampton NorthMarkHollandHon.Ajax//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1115)[English]I'm sorry. Mr. d'Entremont. Did you want to respond to Ms. Sahota's comments? MarkHollandHon.AjaxChrisd'EntremontWest Nova//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1120)[English]Mr. Holland.Chrisd'EntremontWest NovaMarkHollandHon.Ajax//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1120)[English]I'm sorry. I'm going to have to interrupt. I understand the translation is not working. Is it working now?MarkHollandHon.AjaxMarkHollandHon.Ajax//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1120)[English]I'm sorry, Mr. Holland. Maybe start from the top.MarkHollandHon.AjaxMarkHollandHon.Ajax//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1120)[English]Are there any comments on that? MarkHollandHon.AjaxAndrewScheerHon.Regina—Qu'Appelle//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1125)[English]Are there any further comments or questions?Do we have consent? I don't believe we do.We don't. Okay. Very good. I'm afraid we're going to have to turn it down. Thank you for your presentation. We appreciate it.[Translation]We will now move on to the fourth item on the agenda, interpretation resources.The presenters will be Dominic Laporte, chief executive officer, translation bureau, Public Services and Procurement Canada; and Matthew Ball, vice-president, services to Parliament and interpretation, translation bureau, Public Services and Procurement Canada.[English]Ian McDonald, clerk assistant, committees and legislative services directorate; and Scott Lemoine, principal clerk, committees and legislative services directorate.[Translation]Finally, we have Stéphan Aubé, chief information officer.Welcome, ladies and gentlemen.Mr. Laporte, the floor is yours.AndrewScheerHon.Regina—Qu'AppelleDominicLaporte//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1130)[Translation]Mr. Julian has the floor.DominicLaportePeterJulianNew Westminster—Burnaby//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1130)[Translation]Does everyone agree? Great.Mr. McDonald, you have the floor.PeterJulianNew Westminster—BurnabyIanMcDonald//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1135)[English]Good.Are there any further presentations before we go to questions?Okay.[Translation]We will start with Mr. Julian.[English]Ms. Findlay and Madame DeBellefeuille will follow.Go ahead, Mr. Julian.StéphanAubéPeterJulianNew Westminster—Burnaby//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1140)[English] Now we'll continue with Ms. Findlay.PeterJulianNew Westminster—BurnabyKerry-LynneFindlayHon.South Surrey—White Rock//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1145)[English]The first one would go to Mr. McDonald, I believe.Kerry-LynneFindlayHon.South Surrey—White RockIanMcDonald//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1145)[Translation]Mr. Laporte, you have the floor.IanMcDonaldDominicLaporte//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1150)[English] Are there any comments on that? No. Okay. [Translation]Mrs. DeBellefeuille, you have the floor.Kerry-LynneFindlayHon.South Surrey—White RockClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—Suroît//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1200)[Translation]Please go ahead.ClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—SuroîtClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—Suroît//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1210)[Translation]Thank you.[English] Are there any other questions?Go ahead, Mr. Julian.ClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—SuroîtPeterJulianNew Westminster—Burnaby//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1215)[English] Go ahead, Ms. Findlay.PeterJulianNew Westminster—BurnabyKerry-LynneFindlayHon.South Surrey—White Rock//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1220)[English]Are there any further questions or comments?I'd like to ask a couple of questions myself. My first question is for Mr. McDonald. We're supplying 160 hours a week of interpretation. There are 70 meetings that are not being covered in a year. How many hours a week would we need to, say, cover everything we need?Translation and interpretation servicesKerry-LynneFindlayHon.South Surrey—White RockIanMcDonald//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1220)[English]Let me rephrase that question, then. In an ideal world, where we cover committees, how many would we need, and for other ancillary meetings, how many would we need? I'm looking for two numbers. I want a clear vision of where we have to be compared to where we are.Translation and interpretation servicesIanMcDonaldIanMcDonald//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1220)[English]Just to give me an idea, and I understand it's very difficult, could you come up with an ideal situation? Then, once I have that answer, I could go to Mr. Laporte and ask him how many people we'd need to fill those hours. I'll leave it at that, and I won't ask for anything more. I believe Mr. Holland has a question.Translation and interpretation servicesIanMcDonaldMarkHollandHon.Ajax//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1220)[English]Do we have consensus for that? No, we don't have consensus for that, so we'll move on.I want to thank you all for coming out.(1225)I'm going to ask for a bit of a change in the schedule. We have Mr. McDonald who's already up here, and he's going to be speaking to number 6. [Translation]Can we move on to the sixth item and deal with it? It won't take long. Then we can come back to the fifth item.Do we have a consensus on that?Yes? Agreed.I now have a short text to read out.[English] The text report for this committee is the annual report at tab 6. You have before you a letter from the chair of the liaison committee, Ms. Sgro, who wishes to inform the board that the Liaison Committee recently adopted and presented to the House its latest annual report on committee activities and expenditures for the 2022-23 fiscal year. Ms. Sgro submitted a copy of the report to the board and has indicated that she would be available to meet with us at a future date, if the board desires.Pursuant to Standing Order 121.(4):The Board of Internal Economy shall cause to be tabled in the House an annual comprehensive financial report, outlining the individual expenditures of every...committee.... The established practice since 2014 has been for the Liaison Committee's annual report to be approved by the board and tabled by the Speaker in order to comply with the requirements of the standing order. Consequently, if all members are in agreement, I will submit the report as attached to the House as the board's report, pursuant to the standing order. Are there any questions or comments about the report or the process? Does everyone agree with that, that I submit the report to the House?Some hon. members: Agreed.Hon Anthony Rota: Thank you, colleagues. That was quick, and it's out of the way. Now we can go on to number 5, the “Report to Canadians”, and we have Mr. Janse, acting clerk of the House of Commons.MarkHollandHon.AjaxEricJanse//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1225)[English]We'll go to questions and comments. We have Ms. Findlay.EricJanseKerry-LynneFindlayHon.South Surrey—White Rock//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1230)[English]Are there any questions?Are we agreed?Some hon. members: Agreed.Hon. Anthony Rota: Very good.[Translation]We will now move on to the seventh item, the 2022-2023 Annual Financial Report and Request for Approval of Budget Carry-forward to 2023-2024.[English]The presenters today will be Monsieur St George, chief financial officer; José Fernandez, deputy chief financial officer; Ms. Lafontaine, senior director, decision support and financial planning; Andrew Newman, audit partner and officer manager, Ottawa, KPMG; as well as Jonathan Généreux, audit manager, KPMG.[Translation]Mr. St George, you have the floor.2022-2023 Annual Financial ReportFinancial statementsKerry-LynneFindlayHon.South Surrey—White RockPaulSt George//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1235)[English]Are there questions or comments on that?Ms. Findlay.PaulSt GeorgeKerry-LynneFindlayHon.South Surrey—White Rock//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1235)[English]Once we're done with this, we're going to move in camera, and that will allow us to be more open. If the members want to keep their questions for then, they can ask then. Would you like to ask your questions?Kerry-LynneFindlayHon.South Surrey—White RockKerry-LynneFindlayHon.South Surrey—White Rock//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1235)[English] I apologize. We have Mr. Newman. If we have other public ones, maybe we'll go ahead.Thank you, Ms. Findlay. I'm glad you brought that up.Please go ahead, Mr. Newman.Kerry-LynneFindlayHon.South Surrey—White RockAndrewNewman//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1235)[English]Now we'll answer questions. Are there any questions or comments?Ms. Findlay. AndrewNewmanKerry-LynneFindlayHon.South Surrey—White Rock//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1240)[English]I believe that's something we can cover once we go in camera.Financial statementsHouse of CommonsKerry-LynneFindlayHon.South Surrey—White RockKerry-LynneFindlayHon.South Surrey—White Rock//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1240)[English]We're going to suspend for a few minutes and go in camera.Mr. Newman, do you have something?Kerry-LynneFindlayHon.South Surrey—White RockAndrewNewman//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1240)[English]I believe he's one of the ones staying.We're going to suspend right now and, hopefully in a few minutes, we'll take this up again.[Proceedings continue in camera]AndrewNewman//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgStart of sitting day1TRANSCRIPTBoard of Internal EconomyNUMBER 0201st SESSION44th PARLIAMENTThursday, May 18, 2023Le jeudi 18 mai 2023Board of Internal EconomyCANADA[Recorded by Electronic Apparatus]TRANSCRIPTMay 18, 2023CommitteeNUMBER 020NUMBER 020NUMÉRO 020020180520232023/05/18 11:05:00House Of CommonsBureau de régie interneBoard of Internal EconomyBOIE144AnthonyRotaHon.Nipissing—Timiskaming//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota (Speaker of the House of Commons): (1100)[English] I call the meeting to order.I see we have everyone here, so we'll get started. We'll start off with number one, minutes from the previous meetings.Everything is in order. There are no comments to be made.[Translation]So we'll move on to the second item on the agenda, business arising from the previous meeting.[English]Are there any comments or questions on business arising from the previous meeting?Some hon. members: No.Hon. Anthony Rota: Very good.[Translation]We will now move on to the next item.[English]It's the travel budget for the Special Committee on the Canada-People's Republic of China Relationship.We have with us Mr. Hardie, chair, Special Committee on the Canada-People's Republic of China Relationship. We also have Mr. McDonald, clerk assistant; and Scott Lemoine, principal clerk, committees and legislative services directorate.We'll start with Mr. Hardie.KenHardieFleetwood—Port Kells//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1110)[English]Very good.[Translation]Are there any questions?[English]Seeing none, we have a recommendation on the table. Do I see unanimous consent around the table about putting it forward? Very good.Thank you for your presentation, Mr. Hardie. We have approved the recommendation. Thank you.Now we'll go on to item four, which is interpretation resources.Mr. McDonald will speak to this, I believe.BudgetSpecial Committee on the Canada-People's Republic of China RelationshipKenHardieFleetwood—Port KellsIanMcDonald//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1110)[Translation]Mr. Aubé, you have the floor.IanMcDonaldStéphanAubé//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1115)[Translation]That's fine.Are there any questions or comments?Mrs. DeBellefeuille, the floor is yours.StéphanAubéClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—Suroît//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1125)[Translation]Thank you, Mrs. DeBellefeuille. Mr. Julian now has the floor.[English]He will be followed by Ms. Findlay.ClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—SuroîtPeterJulianNew Westminster—Burnaby//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1130)[Translation]Mr. McDonald, do you have any comments to make or answers to provide?PeterJulianNew Westminster—BurnabyIanMcDonald//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1130)[Translation]Okay.I think that everyone's frustrated by this situation.Ms. Findlay, go ahead.IanMcDonaldKerry-LynneFindlayHon.South Surrey—White Rock//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1130)[Translation]Mr. Aubé, do you want to respond?Kerry-LynneFindlayHon.South Surrey—White RockStéphanAubé//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1135)[English] Are there any other questions?[Translation]Apparently not.[English]We have a request from Mr. Julian to have the translation bureau come back. Are we all on board with that?We have a consensus. Hopefully, we will get the answers to our questions.We will move on to item 5.[Translation]It's the “Annual Report on the Members of the House of Commons Workplace Harassment and Violence Prevention Policy 2022‑2023”.First, we have Ms. Michelle Laframboise, chief human resources officer, House of Commons, to present the report.[English]We also have Annie Carpentier, deputy director of members' HR and business partner services, and Myriam Beauparlant, manager for respectful workplace, diversity and inclusion.I believe we'll start off with Madame Laframboise.Annual Report on the Members of the House of Commons Workplace Harassment and Violence Prevention Policy 2022-2023Translation and interpretation servicesKerry-LynneFindlayHon.South Surrey—White RockMichelleLaframboise//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1135)[English]Are there any questions or comments?[Translation]Mr. MacKinnon, go ahead.MichelleLaframboiseStevenMacKinnonHon.Gatineau//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1140)[Translation]We will now move to Mrs. DeBellefeuille.[English]She will be followed by Ms. Findlay.MichelleLaframboiseClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—Suroît//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1140)[English] We'll continue with Ms. Findlay. MichelleLaframboiseKerry-LynneFindlayHon.South Surrey—White Rock//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1145)[English]Thank you.[Translation]We're going to hear one last comment on the matter, from Mr. MacKinnon.Kerry-LynneFindlayHon.South Surrey—White RockStevenMacKinnonHon.Gatineau//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1145)[Translation]Mr. Julian also wants to ask a question or make a comment.MichelleLaframboisePeterJulianNew Westminster—Burnaby//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1145)[Translation]Any other comments or questions?I wanted to say a few words about that as well, but I was waiting until we had finished dealing with the sixth item on the agenda, the statistics on the diversity of the House of Commons Administration, which we're dealing with right now.[English] From our presenters today, we'll continue with Ms. Laframboise, chief human resources officer, who will be accompanied by Ismail Albaidhani, deputy director, HR strategy planning and execution. Ms. Laframboise, go ahead, please.Equal opportunitiesStatisticsMichelleLaframboiseMichelleLaframboise//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1145)[English]Are there any questions or comments?Seeing none, I will take the opportunity now to thank you for your service. I think this bullet point number six was probably one of the prime examples of how you serve and how you work. Really, you have an ability to take something very complex and make it very understandable for everyone, and that's a rare skill. Sometimes we look at something and think, “Why can't this be simple?” This is something for which you have a very nice knack. Item 6 was something I mentioned in passing on Monday, because an MP asked me about it. I said, “Well, what are we doing about this?” Lo and behold, within a couple of days we had a report. This is a very clear example of the way you operate the department. Whoever is coming in has some very big shoes to fill. We are going to miss you.(1150)[Translation]I wish you a very happy retirement. I'm sure you'll have a great time, and everything will go well.MichelleLaframboiseMichelleLaframboise//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1150)[English]Thank you very much.We'll now move on to item number seven, dealing with the internal audit charter and audit and improvement plan and report for 2023.[Translation]To speak to that, we have Jennifer Ruff, chief audit executive.I'm sorry, we're going to start with Mr. Janse, then we'll go to Ms. Ruff.Mr. Janse, the floor is yours.MichelleLaframboiseEricJanse//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1150)[English]Go ahead, Ms. Ruff.EricJanseJenniferRuff//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1150)[English]Are there questions or comments?Go ahead, Ms. Findlay.JenniferRuffKerry-LynneFindlayHon.South Surrey—White Rock//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1155)[English]Are there any other questions or comments?Seeing none, we'll move on to item number eight.[Translation]This is part 2 of the policy modernization.[English]Our presenters today will be Paul St George, chief financial officer; Michel Bédard, interim law clerk and parliamentary counsel; Stéphan Aubé, chief information officer; and José Fernandez, deputy chief financial officer.[Translation]We're going to start with you, Mr. St George. The floor is yours.Kerry-LynneFindlayHon.South Surrey—White RockPaulSt George//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1200)[Translation]The floor is yours, Mr. Aubé.PaulSt GeorgeStéphanAubé//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1200)[Translation]Perfect.Mr. Bédard, you have the floor.StéphanAubéMichelBédard//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1200)[English]Are there any questions?[Translation]Mrs. DeBellefeuille, the floor is yours.MichelBédardClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—Suroît//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1205)[Translation]Thank you.Mr. Bédard, would you like to comment?ClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—SuroîtMichelBédard//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1205)[Translation]Are there any other questions?Mr. Bédard, I will let you continue your presentation.MichelBédardMichelBédard//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1205)[Translation]Are there any other questions or comments?Just to be clear, Mr. Bédard, can you confirm that, regarding the 21‑day period, those are in fact calendar days, not business days?Constituency officesFederal electionsJudicial recount of the votesMembers of ParliamentMichelBédardMichelBédard//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1205)[Translation]Okay.If there are no further questions, we will now continue the meeting in camera.[English] I will ask anyone who is not related to the items to be discussed in camera to please clear the room. We'll continue as soon as we have gone in camera.Thank you.[Proceedings continue in camera]MichelBédard//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgStart of sitting day1TRANSCRIPTBoard of Internal EconomyNUMBER 0191st SESSION44th PARLIAMENTThursday, April 20, 2023Le jeudi 20 avril 2023Board of Internal EconomyCANADA[Recorded by Electronic Apparatus]TRANSCRIPTApril 20, 2023CommitteeNUMBER 019NUMBER 019NUMÉRO 019019200420232023/04/20 11:10:00House Of CommonsBureau de régie interneBoard of Internal EconomyBOIE144AnthonyRotaHon.Nipissing—Timiskaming//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota (Speaker of the House of Commons): (1105)[Translation] I see we have quorum and every party is represented, so I’ll call the meeting to order.Let’s begin with the first item on the agenda, that being the minutes of the previous meeting. Are there any questions or comments?That’s all well and good.[English] The second point is business arising from previous minutes. Does anybody have any comments?[Translation]Madame DeBellefeuille, you have the floor.ClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—Suroît//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1110)[Translation]I’m going to ask Mr. McDonald to answer your question.ClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—SuroîtIanMcDonald//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1110)[Translation]Do you have further comments on this subject?EricJanseStéphanAubé//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1110)[Translation]I will ask Mr. Patrice or Mr. McDonald to answer that question.ClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—SuroîtIanMcDonald//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1115)[Translation]Mr. Julian, I know you want to add something. Would you like me to wait until you’ve finished speaking before asking members if they agree to invite people from the translation bureau?ClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—SuroîtPeterJulianNew Westminster—Burnaby//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1115)[Translation]Very well. You have the floor, Mr. Julian.PeterJulianNew Westminster—BurnabyPeterJulianNew Westminster—Burnaby//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1115)[Translation]My apologies. You may finish. Then Mr. Julian will have the floor.ClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—SuroîtClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—Suroît//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1115)[Translation]We’ll wait until you’re done. Then, I’ll give the floor to Mr. Julian. After that, I will proceed with the vote, in the hope that we can reach consensus.ClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—SuroîtClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—Suroît//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1115)[Translation]Mr. McDonald, you have the floor.ClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—SuroîtIanMcDonald//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1120)[Translation]You have the floor, Mr. McDonald.ClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—SuroîtIanMcDonald//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1125)[Translation]Do you want to add anything, Mr. McDonald?StéphanAubéIanMcDonald//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1125)[Translation]Do you have anything to add, Ms. DeBellefeuille?IanMcDonaldClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—Suroît//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1130)[Translation]Thank you very much, Ms. DeBellefeuille.Mr. Julian, you have the floor.ClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—SuroîtPeterJulianNew Westminster—Burnaby//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1135)[Translation]Thank you.Are there any other comments, in light of what Mr. Julian has said?As for the date, the Board of Internal Economy will hold its next meeting on May 18. Is that too late?PeterJulianNew Westminster—BurnabyPeterJulianNew Westminster—Burnaby//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1135)[Translation]In that case, we'll see whether another date can be arranged. I don't want to make promises I can't keep; however, if we can meet before then, that's something we'll try to organize.Thank you.The other thing that—PeterJulianNew Westminster—BurnabyPeterJulianNew Westminster—Burnaby//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1135)[Translation]I apologize. I didn't see him.Mr. Aubé, go ahead.PeterJulianNew Westminster—BurnabyStéphanAubé//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1135)[Translation] I propose that we combine Mrs. DeBellefeuille's and Mr. Julian's proposals, meaning we invite translation bureau representatives to the next meeting of the Board of Internal Economy, which we would hold as soon as possible.Is that an acceptable combination? Are we agreed?Do you wish to speak, Mr. MacKinnon?Translation and interpretation servicesTranslation BureauIanMcDonaldStevenMacKinnonHon.Gatineau//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1135)[Translation]I think it was to obtain information, but it might be good for Mrs. DeBellefeuille to tell you exactly what she wants.Translation and interpretation servicesTranslation BureauStevenMacKinnonHon.GatineauClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—Suroît//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1140)[Translation]Mr. MacKinnon, you have the floor.ClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—SuroîtStevenMacKinnonHon.Gatineau//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1140)[Translation]Mr. Julian, you have the floor.StevenMacKinnonHon.GatineauPeterJulianNew Westminster—Burnaby//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1140)[Translation] I just want to make sure I understand.You want to invite the new director to ask questions about his or her forecasts, since in the past we haven't had answers to the questions we've asked. Have I understood correctly? Is the reason for the invitation clear to everyone?Are we in agreement that we will do our utmost to hold this meeting as soon as possible?PeterJulianNew Westminster—BurnabyStevenMacKinnonHon.Gatineau//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1140)[Translation]So there is no consensus.Ms. DeBellefeuille, you have the floor.Translation and interpretation servicesTranslation BureauStevenMacKinnonHon.GatineauClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—Suroît//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1140)[Translation]You have the floor, Mr. Julian.ClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—SuroîtPeterJulianNew Westminster—Burnaby//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1145)[Translation]Is there a consensus?There is no consensus. Do we want to move on to item 3 or continue the discussion?Mrs. DeBellefeuille, you have the floor.Translation and interpretation servicesTranslation BureauPeterJulianNew Westminster—BurnabyClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—Suroît//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1145)[Translation]If there are no further comments, we'll move on to item 3.[English] Item number three is modernization of policies, part 1. I'd like to invite Monsieur St George, Monsieur Aubé, Mr. Fernandez and Ms. Lafontaine. [Translation]Mr. St George, you have the floor.ClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—SuroîtPaulSt George//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1150)[English] Are there any questions or comments?Is everyone on board with the recommendation? Do we have consensus?Some hon. members: Agreed.The Chair: Very good. Now we'll go to item number four, the House of Commons strategic plan. Mr. Janse, the acting Clerk of the House of Commons, will make a presentation.Mr. Janse, go ahead.FinancingMembers of ParliamentWireless communicationPaulSt GeorgeEricJanse//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1155)[English] Thank you, Mr. Janse. Are there any questions or comments?Go ahead, Mr. Scheer.EricJanseAndrewScheerHon.Regina—Qu'Appelle//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1155)[English] We have the thumbs-up. You're ready to go ahead.AndrewScheerHon.Regina—Qu'AppelleAndrewScheerHon.Regina—Qu'Appelle//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1155)[English]We have Mr. Janse, please.AndrewScheerHon.Regina—Qu'AppelleEricJanse//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1155)[English]Do you want to respond to that?AndrewScheerHon.Regina—Qu'AppelleEricJanse//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1155)[English]Mr. Scheer, are you done? Okay.Now we'll go to Mr. Holland, followed by Ms. Findlay.Go ahead, Mr. Holland.House of Commons Strategic PlanEricJanseMarkHollandHon.Ajax//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1200)[English]Now we'll go to Ms. Findlay and then over to Mr. Julian.MarkHollandHon.AjaxKerry-LynneFindlayHon.South Surrey—White Rock//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1200)[English]Mr. Janse, I believe you can answer those concerns.Kerry-LynneFindlayHon.South Surrey—White RockEricJanse//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1200)[English]Do you have any further questions, Ms. Findlay? No.We'll go over to Mr. Julian.Kerry-LynneFindlayHon.South Surrey—White RockPeterJulianNew Westminster—Burnaby//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1200)[English]Is that an acceptable compromise?Mr. Scheer, please go ahead.House of Commons Strategic PlanPeterJulianNew Westminster—BurnabyAndrewScheerHon.Regina—Qu'Appelle//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1205)[English] I see some nodding. Is that acceptable to everyone?I think we have consensus. Fantastic. That's very good. Thank you. Are there no other questions or comments? Very good.Now we'll continue to item number five. We'll be going in camera. We'll take five minutes, but if we get in sooner, we'll start sooner.House of Commons Strategic PlanPeterJulianNew Westminster—Burnaby//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgStart of sitting day1TRANSCRIPTBoard of Internal EconomyNUMBER 0181st SESSION44th PARLIAMENTThursday, February 16, 2023Le jeudi 16 février 2023Board of Internal EconomyCANADA[Recorded by Electronic Apparatus]TRANSCRIPTFebruary 16, 2023CommitteeNUMBER 018NUMBER 018NUMÉRO 018018160220232023/02/16 11:05:00House Of CommonsBureau de régie interneBoard of Internal EconomyBOIE144AnthonyRotaHon.Nipissing—Timiskaming//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota (Speaker of the House of Commons): (1100)[English] This is meeting number 18 of the Board of Internal Economy.[Translation]Today is February 16, and this meeting is televised.Members of the Board of Internal Economy are participating remotely, by video conference.[English]Before we go to the first one, I'd like to change the agenda a bit.Would that be okay?[Translation]Item 3 requires a bit more time, so I suggest we deal with items 1, 2, 4 and 5 first. I think we can get through them fairly quickly.[English]Then we can move on to number 3 and take our time. I believe that one will take some time.Mr. Julian.PeterJulianNew Westminster—Burnaby//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1100)[Translation]Yes. Those in the room can stay for the in-camera portion of the meeting. We will discuss what we need to discuss in camera, after which, we will come back to item 3.Go ahead, Mrs. DeBellefeuille.PeterJulianNew Westminster—BurnabyClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—Suroît//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1100)[Translation]Some things I can't control, Mrs. DeBellefeuille. That said, considering everything that's going on in the House and in committees, I don't think anyone will slip out.That brings us to the first item of business, the minutes of the previous meeting.Are there any questions or comments?I see that the committee is in agreement.(1105)[English]Under business arising from the previous meeting, item 2c is Internet expenses for members and their employees. Ms. Findlay, do you want to cover that?Broadband Internet servicesGovernment expendituresMembers of ParliamentMembers of Parliament staffClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—SuroîtEricJanse//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1105)[English]Yes. Ms. Findlay wrote a letter asking.... Do you want to speak to that? Either you or Ms. Findlay....Broadband Internet servicesGovernment expendituresMembers of ParliamentMembers of Parliament staffEricJanseEricJanse//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1105)[English]Okay. Maybe we'll let the finance folks talk to it first.Broadband Internet servicesGovernment expendituresMembers of ParliamentMembers of Parliament staffEricJanseEricJanse//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1105)[English]Okay. It's fairly straightforward. I think anybody who has read it understands it.Ms. Findlay, if you want to say a few words on that, that would be great.Broadband Internet servicesGovernment expendituresMembers of ParliamentMembers of Parliament staffEricJanseKerry-LynneFindlayHon.South Surrey—White Rock//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1105)[English]Thank you.Mr. Holland.Kerry-LynneFindlayHon.South Surrey—White RockMarkHollandHon.Ajax//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1105)[English]Mr. Julian.MarkHollandHon.AjaxPeterJulianNew Westminster—Burnaby//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1105)[English]Do you have anything else, Mr. Julian?PaulSt GeorgePeterJulianNew Westminster—Burnaby//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1110)[English]Very good.We'll now go to Madame DeBellefeuille.PeterJulianNew Westminster—BurnabyClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—Suroît//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1110)[Translation]Very well.[English]Are there comments on that?Go ahead, please, Ms. Findlay.ClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—SuroîtKerry-LynneFindlayHon.South Surrey—White Rock//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1110)[English]I believe we have consensus at the table. Everybody is nodding their head in favour.The question is timing. I understand that it was in place until the end of March. Is that a good time to stop it from continuing? If we do it right away, it might cause some confusion.[Translation]I propose ending it on March 31, at the same time as the policy.[English]The expiration of the rule will cause it to sunset. Is that fair? Does that work well?[Translation]Over to you, Mrs. DeBellefeuille.Broadband Internet servicesGovernment expendituresMembers of ParliamentMembers of Parliament staffKerry-LynneFindlayHon.South Surrey—White RockClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—Suroît//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1110)[Translation]Very good.Everyone is in agreement, then.[English]Everything is in place. Very good. I believe we have unanimous consent, which is nice.Now we'll move on to number four.Monsieur St George, Monsieur Fernandez and Ms. Lafontaine will be presenting on the quarterly financial report for the third quarter of 2022-23.Go ahead, Monsieur St George.Broadband Internet servicesGovernment expendituresMembers of ParliamentMembers of Parliament staffClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—SuroîtPaulSt George//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1115)[Translation]Are there any comments?[English]Okay. Thank you very much.Mr. MacKinnon.PaulSt GeorgeStevenMacKinnonHon.Gatineau//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1115)[English]Are there other questions?Okay, we'll now go in camera. We'll take two minutes, have a bit of a break, and then come back. While we are in camera it shouldn't be very long. I'm going to ask those who are not privy to this to please vacate. At 11:20 a.m., we'll start with the in camera session.[Proceedings continue in camera](1115)(1150[Public proceedings resume]PaulSt GeorgeAnthonyRotaHon.Nipissing—Timiskaming//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1150)[Translation]We are ready to carry on.We are now on agenda item 3.Thank you for agreeing to deal with the items out of order so we could spend a bit more time on item 3, which is a very important item for everyone here and at the House.Before we begin the discussion, I'm going to ask Mr. Janse to give us a bit of background on the subject.AnthonyRotaHon.Nipissing—TimiskamingEricJanse//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1150)[English]Yes.Our presenters today are Monsieur Dominic Laporte, chief executive officer of the translation bureau, Matthew Ball, vice-president of the translation bureau, Ian McDonald, clerk assistant of the committees and legislative services directorate, Scott Lemoine, principal clerk of committees, and Stéphan Aubé, chief information officer.Now we'll turn it over to Monsieur Laporte.[Translation]Welcome, Mr. Laporte, and congratulations on your appointment.Translation and interpretation servicesEricJanseDominicLaporte//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1155)[English]Very good. Do we have any comments or questions?[Translation]Go ahead, Mrs. DeBellefeuille.DominicLaporteClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—Suroît//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1155)[Translation]Yes. Go ahead.ClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—SuroîtClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—Suroît//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1200)[Translation]Do you have anything to add, Mr. McDonald?MatthewBallIanMcDonald//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1205)[Translation]Mr. Julian, you now have the floor.DominicLaportePeterJulianNew Westminster—Burnaby//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1215)[Translation]Mr. Holland, you now have the floor.PeterJulianNew Westminster—BurnabyMarkHollandHon.Ajax//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1215)[English] Very good. [Translation]Ms. DeBellefeuille, you have the floor.MarkHollandHon.AjaxClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—Suroît//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1220)[Translation]I think it's all part of the same topic, so we can naturally move from one point to another, as long as the questions are answered. That's what's important.You may continue, Ms. DeBellefeuille.Translation and interpretation servicesVirtual ParliamentClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—SuroîtClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—Suroît//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1220)[Translation]Mr. McDonald, you have the floor.ClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—SuroîtIanMcDonald//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1230)[Translation]Mr. Aubé, do you have anything to add?Translation and interpretation servicesVirtual ParliamentIanMcDonaldStéphanAubé//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1230)[Translation]I believe there are no more comments or questions.In my opinion, we should all try to set up something that works, as these efforts can attest.I hope the problems will be resolved soon, and that things can work for everyone, be they members or interpreters. Our democracy has to function. When we have a good understanding of what’s being said, our decisions and legislation make sense.[English] We are going to adjourn this session.I want to thank everyone for coming out.Thank you to our witnesses.Again, Monsieur Laporte, congratulations on your new position.This session has now ended.StéphanAubé//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgDaily adjournmentAnthonyRotaHon.Nipissing—Timiskaming//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgStart of sitting day1TRANSCRIPTBoard of Internal EconomyNUMBER 0171st SESSION44th PARLIAMENTWednesday, December 7, 2022Le mercredi 7 décembre 2022Board of Internal EconomyCANADA[Recorded by Electronic Apparatus]TRANSCRIPTDecember 7, 2022CommitteeNUMBER 017NUMBER 017NUMÉRO 017017071220222022/12/07 16:10:00House Of CommonsBureau de régie interneBoard of Internal EconomyBOIE144AnthonyRotaHon.Nipissing—Timiskaming//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota (Speaker of the House of Commons): (1605)[Translation] I call the meeting to order.First on the agenda we have the minutes of the previous meeting.[English] Are there any questions or comments on item number one? No.On item number two, business arising from previous meetings, are there any questions? No. Item number three concerns the translation bureau and resource utilization for simultaneous interpretation. [Translation]Presenting on that topic are Nathalie Laliberté and Matthew Ball.[English]I'll let you do your presentation, and I'm sure we'll have a few questions once you've finished.Thank you.NathalieLaliberté//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1610)[Translation]Thank you.[English]Are there questions or comments?[Translation]Go ahead, Mrs. DeBellefeuille.NathalieLalibertéClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—Suroît//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1620)[Translation]Go ahead, Mr. Julian.ClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—SuroîtPeterJulianNew Westminster—Burnaby//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1630)[Translation]We now go to Mr. MacKinnon.PeterJulianNew Westminster—BurnabyStevenMacKinnonHon.Gatineau//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1640)[Translation]Go ahead, Mrs. DeBellefeuille.StevenMacKinnonHon.GatineauClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—Suroît//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1650)[Translation]Do you have any other questions, Mrs. DeBellefeuille?NathalieLalibertéClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—Suroît//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1650)[Translation]Are there any other questions?[English]Maybe I'll ask a couple of questions, if that's okay. I'll take the prerogative of the chair. I'm really uncomfortable asking this question, because it's almost a question that would be asked of management if we were running the organization. We're receiving a service. I'd like to say we're purchasing the service, but the service is paid for by Procurement Canada. You're responsible for providing that service, so you're responsible for the employees.We're here asking for translation. By law, we're entitled to it. It's something that has to be given to us so that people can, basically, do the job they have to do. Technically, we're indirectly buying a service from your organization. We're not employing individual translators. Is that correct?Translation and interpretation servicesClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—SuroîtNathalieLaliberté//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1650)[English]Very good. I just want to make sure everybody's clear on that. It's not the House of Commons or the Senate that is hiring translators and then this isn't working.The questions I have pertain to management/employees. When I'm buying a service, it's not for me to say to Bell Canada, “I don't like the way you're installing the fibre in this neighbourhood.” What I can say is, “I won't buy your service, but I'll go to another.” We don't have that luxury right now—or maybe we do. I don't know. We looked at different options, but we didn't find that.My question to you is about your employees, about the employees who are, basically, the service we're buying. I understand that they've cut back. They've reduced their hours on a daily basis. I understand there's extra stress. In interpreting, the capacity is a challenge that I think we all have to face with a lot of things, not only the members but the interpreters.What criteria need to be met or what has to be done so that we can resume the hours of operation for the service that we're indirectly purchasing from you? What is missing, other than interpreters?Translation and interpretation servicesNathalieLalibertéNathalieLaliberté//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1650)[English]Again, the reduced hours that the interpreters are working is something we look at. I don't want to burn anyone out, but on the other hand, we need that service.Translation and interpretation servicesNathalieLalibertéNathalieLaliberté//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1655)[English]How many hours would you be working a day if you were an interpreter?Translation and interpretation servicesNathalieLalibertéNathalieLaliberté//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1655)[English] Is that 20% or 30%? Anyway, it's down considerably.That is going to be maintained at four hours for how long? You don't know.Translation and interpretation servicesNathalieLalibertéNathalieLaliberté//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1655)[Translation]Someone also came up with the idea of creating some sort of dashboard that could be used by our staff and yours, and it would provide a snapshot and an idea of what resources are available on any given day. That would help us do some planning, maybe not a month in advance, as you say, but at least a few days in advance.Would you be willing to work with us on that?Translation and interpretation servicesNathalieLalibertéNathalieLaliberté//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1655)[Translation]Excellent.Are there any other questions?Thank you, Mr. Ball and Ms. Laliberté.[English]We'll now go on to item number four, an increase to the parliamentary exchange budget. I believe, Mr. Scheer, you had something on this one. Oh, I'm sorry.[Translation]Mrs. DeBellefeuille, you have the floor.FinancingInternational and Interparliamentary AffairsNathalieLalibertéClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—Suroît//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1655)[Translation]All right. How long do you need?ClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—SuroîtClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—Suroît//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1655)[Translation]All right. We'll suspend the meeting until 5:05 p.m.ClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—SuroîtAnthonyRotaHon.Nipissing—Timiskaming//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1710)[English] We'll reconvene the discussion on item four, which we suspended. Rather than going to a presentation, I believe Mr. MacKinnon has a proposal for us, and then we'll go from there.Mr. MacKinnon.FinancingInternational and Interparliamentary AffairsAnthonyRotaHon.Nipissing—TimiskamingStevenMacKinnonHon.Gatineau//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1710)[Translation]Are there any other comments?[English]Mr. Scheer, are you okay with that?FinancingInternational and Interparliamentary AffairsStevenMacKinnonHon.GatineauAndrewScheerHon.Regina—Qu'Appelle//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1710)[English]I just want to make sure everybody is fine. We have consensus, then, on that proposal. Very good.Now we go to item five, the proposed 2023-24 main estimates. We have Mr. St George, who is the chief financial officer, along with Sylvie Lafontaine, director, decision support and financial planning.Government expendituresMain estimates 2023-2024AndrewScheerHon.Regina—Qu'AppellePaulSt George//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1715)[English]Are there any comments? I don't see any. Is everyone fine with this recommendation? I see heads nodding.[Translation]Thank you very much, Mr. St George.[English]We have Mr. Robert, who would like to make a statement to us.Go ahead, Mr. Robert.Government expendituresMain estimates 2023-2024PaulSt GeorgeCharlesRobert//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1720)[English]Thank you. I don't think those are the right words. Thank you for your years of service, not thank you for leaving us.I believe, Mr. Holland, you have a few words to say.Clerk of the House of CommonsRetirement from workRobert, CharlesCharlesRobertMarkHollandHon.Ajax//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1725)[English]Are there any other comments?Go ahead, Mr. Julian.MarkHollandHon.AjaxPeterJulianNew Westminster—Burnaby//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1725)[English] Mr. Scheer.PeterJulianNew Westminster—BurnabyAndrewScheerHon.Regina—Qu'Appelle//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1725)[English]Thank you.[Translation]Mrs. DeBellefeuille, you have the floor.AndrewScheerHon.Regina—Qu'AppelleClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—Suroît//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1725)[Translation]Does anyone else wish to speak?I'd like to say a few words myself.[English]I had the opportunity to work very closely with you, Charles, and it's a sad day for Parliament. It's a sad day not only for the House, but for the Senate as well. The commitment you've shown over the years has been outstanding.[Translation]The interest I've seen you show for members and the institution goes beyond what people can even imagine.(1730)[English] You have served individual members to make sure they were able to do their jobs; you wanted to see the process work. What was most important in the institution was to make sure that it worked well. There's a kind of commitment there that I don't know if anyone else has, even MPs. They are committed to what they are doing, but you were part of the institution and I think that's something that will live on indefinitely because it is part of what it is right now, and you're there. I know that COVID-19 really gave us a different perspective on things, but you were very open and very supportive of staff and the MPs to make sure we could keep our democracy working.That's something I think we should all be very appreciative of.[Translation]Even when times were tough, your door was always open. You were there to talk to us, direct us and give us advice. We didn't always follow it, but most of the time we did because it was good advice and good direction, not only for the members and the Speaker, but for the institution itself.[English] I just want to say that you've been here for 42 years. I've been working for you for just the last three years now, and it's been an honour. It really has been an honour and a privilege working with you. You're going away, and I'm not just losing a colleague; I'm losing a friend, but I'm sure we'll see each other quite often. I just won't see you as often, I don't think, so I just want to wish you all the best in your retirement. It's interesting that you've chosen Friday, January 13 as your departure date.Mr. Charles Robert: I was the 13th Clerk.Hon. Anthony Rota: The 13th Clerk on Friday the 13th—well, that makes a lot of sense now. Thank you for your 42 years of service, and especially your years here at the House and the time I had to spend working side by side with you.Thank you.We are going to switch over and go in camera now.[Proceedings continue in camera]Clerk of the House of CommonsRetirement from workRobert, CharlesClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—Suroît//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgStart of sitting day1TRANSCRIPTBoard of Internal EconomyNUMBER 0161st SESSION44th PARLIAMENTThursday, December 1, 2022Le jeudi 1er décembre 2022Board of Internal EconomyCANADA[Recorded by Electronic Apparatus]TRANSCRIPTDecember 1, 2022CommitteeNUMBER 016NUMBER 016NUMÉRO 016016011220222022/12/01 11:05:00House Of CommonsBureau de régie interneBoard of Internal EconomyBOIE144AnthonyRotaHon.Nipissing—Timiskaming//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota (Speaker of the House of Commons): (1105)[English] Welcome to meeting number 16 of the Board of Internal Economy.[Translation] We will start by reviewing the minutes of the last meeting.[English]With the minutes of the last meeting, is everything in order?[Translation] Perfect.We will now move on to the second item on the agenda.[English]It is business arising from previous meetings.[Translation] Mrs. DeBellefeuille, you have the floor.ClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—Suroît//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1105)[Translation]I think Mr. McDonald can answer your question, Mrs. DeBellefeuille.You have the floor, Mr. McDonald.ClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—SuroîtIanMcDonald//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1115)[Translation]I think it's a reasonable request and Mr. McDonald is signalling to me that it would be possible.So at the next meeting we will look at the dashboard with the changes that have been made, which will give us a good idea of how things are going.Thank you very much, Mrs. DeBellefeuille. That's a good point you just made.AcousticsQuality controlVirtual ParliamentClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—SuroîtClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—Suroît//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1115)[Translation]All right.We will continue with Mr. Julian, and then we will return to Mrs. DeBellefeuille.Mr. Julian, you have the floor.ClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—SuroîtPeterJulianNew Westminster—Burnaby//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1115)[Translation]I opened the discussion on the whole of point 2. If you want to move from one point to another, that's fine. You can cover points 2a, 2b and 2c as you wish.AcousticsQuality controlVirtual ParliamentPeterJulianNew Westminster—BurnabyPeterJulianNew Westminster—Burnaby//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1115)[English] Go ahead, Mr. McDonald.PeterJulianNew Westminster—BurnabyIanMcDonald//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1115)[Translation]Before I give the floor back to Mrs. DeBellefeuille, I just want to remind you that earlier we decided to deal with item 2c when we got to item 3. So for now, you can still comment on items 2a and 2b.Mrs. DeBellefeuille, you have the floor.PeterJulianNew Westminster—BurnabyClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—Suroît//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1120)[Translation] I think Mr. Aouididi could answer that question.ClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—SuroîtYassineAouididi//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1120)[Translation]Thank you, Mrs. DeBellefeuille.Mr. Julian, you have the floor.YassineAouididiPeterJulianNew Westminster—Burnaby//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1125)[Translation]Mr. Aouididi, would you like to answer this question?PeterJulianNew Westminster—BurnabyYassineAouididi//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1125)[Translation]Are there any other questions on this issue? I think we have covered point 2b.[English] We'll continue to number three, interpretation services. We've moved item 2(c) over to that as well.We'll start with Michel Patrice, who will give us a short presentation.Translation and interpretation servicesPeterJulianNew Westminster—BurnabyMichelPatrice//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1125)[English]Are there any questions or comments?We'll start with Mr. Julian.MichelPatricePeterJulianNew Westminster—Burnaby//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1130)[Translation]We will now go to Mrs. DeBellefeuille.[English] She will be followed by Ms. Findlay.MichelPatriceClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—Suroît//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1135)[Translation]Would it be worth our while to ask Ms. Laliberté to appear? Could we formally invite her to the next meeting? Some things are unclear.This is just an observation by the chair, and the Board of Internal Economy must decide to invite her.StaffingTranslation and interpretation servicesMichelPatriceClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—Suroît//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1135)[Translation]If it's okay with everyone, we'll invite Ms. Laliberté, then.[English]We'll invite her to come to the board's next meeting. Hopefully, we'll have some clarification of what's happening with interpretation.Go ahead, Madame DeBellefeuille.StaffingTranslation and interpretation servicesClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—SuroîtClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—Suroît//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1145)[Translation]Thank you, Mrs. DeBellefeuille.[English] We'll now go to Ms. Findlay.ClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—SuroîtKerry-LynneFindlayHon.South Surrey—White Rock//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1145)[English]Thank you. Mr. MacKinnon, I believe you had a comment.Kerry-LynneFindlayHon.South Surrey—White RockStevenMacKinnonHon.Gatineau//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1150)[Translation]Thanks to both of you.[English] I want to make sure I have the right directions. We're going to be inviting the translation bureau and Ms. Laliberté to be a witness here, and we'll have questions.On the minister, do we want to open the invitation, or do we have...? What do we want to do with that one? Do we want to wait until we've spoken to Ms. Laliberté before we invite the minister?Ms. Findlay, is that good?StaffingTranslation and interpretation servicesMichelPatriceKerry-LynneFindlayHon.South Surrey—White Rock//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1150)[English]Very good. If that's fine, we'll move on to item number four, which is supporting committee operations. Mr. McDonald will have a short presentation for us, and then we'll open it up to questions.Go ahead, Mr. McDonald.StaffingKerry-LynneFindlayHon.South Surrey—White RockIanMcDonald//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1155)[English]Are there questions or comments?[Translation]Is everyone in favour of the recommendation?It's agreed.We now go to item five, the increase to the parliamentary exchanges budget. Jeremy LeBlanc will be giving the presentation, and joining him is Marie-Ève Belzile.The floor is yours, Mr. LeBlanc.Government expendituresInternational and Interparliamentary AffairsIanMcDonaldJeremyLeBlanc//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1200)[Translation]Are there any questions or comments?[English]Go ahead, Mr. Scheer.JeremyLeBlancAndrewScheerHon.Regina—Qu'Appelle//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1200)[English]Are there any other questions or comments?Go ahead with the comments.AndrewScheerHon.Regina—Qu'AppelleAndrewScheerHon.Regina—Qu'Appelle//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1200)[English]Mr. LeBlanc, do you want to comment on that? No. Okay.I believe we have Mr. Julian next.AndrewScheerHon.Regina—Qu'AppellePeterJulianNew Westminster—Burnaby//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1200)[English]Are there any other comments or questions? I see none. That's very good.This does affect me directly. Without taking the side of one over the other, I just want to point out that there have been 20 years without an increase. The real problem is that it hasn't been increased, and it doesn't really reflect the realities of inflation, especially post-COVID costs and increases. That's something I think everyone should consider.There are two parts, of course, to this: the travel, which goes out, which people concentrate on, but also the reception of people coming in, which is a significant part of the costs.I have a question for the board. What level of diplomacy do you want? When I get people requesting to come to visit with the Speaker, and I refuse them, shall I say that the board is no longer interested? That's just a question I'll throw out there for you. It's something to think about. Whatever the board decides I'm willing to go along with. It really is what is out there.The parliamentary officers' studies program is something else that's included in there, where we have MPs going abroad and coming back. It is quite substantial. It's something to consider when looking at the costs of doing business as a government.Those are the only comments I'll make there. I don't think there's much more to say other than that we have gone about three-quarters of the way through the year, and the coffers are now empty. I think there's no more than $3,000 left. We'll go from there.We'll go to Ms. Sahota. I'll let her continue.Government expendituresInternational and Interparliamentary AffairsPeterJulianNew Westminster—BurnabyRubySahotaBrampton North//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1205)[English]Very good. Go ahead, Mr. Scheer.RubySahotaBrampton NorthAndrewScheerHon.Regina—Qu'Appelle//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1205)[English]Mr. LeBlanc, did you want to comment on that?AndrewScheerHon.Regina—Qu'AppelleJeremyLeBlanc//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1210)[English]Ms. Findlay.JeremyLeBlancKerry-LynneFindlayHon.South Surrey—White Rock//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1210)[English] Is that the consensus?Voices: Agreed.Hon. Anthony Rota: Very good. We'll put it off until the next meeting. Now we'll move on to item number six, which is the quarterly financial report for the second quarter of 2022-23.Monsieur St George, accompanied by Sylvie Lafontaine, will be making a report.Government expendituresQuarterly financial report for the Second Quarter of 2022-2023Kerry-LynneFindlayHon.South Surrey—White RockPaulSt George//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1210)[English]Are there any questions or comments?(1215)[Translation]Are there any questions or comments?[English]No. Very good.Thank you, Monsieur St George and Madame Lafontaine, for your presentation.[Translation]That brings us to item seven, the professional development pilot project for the employees of members, House officers and national caucus research offices.Ms. Laframboise, please proceed with your report.Education and trainingHouse officersMembers of Parliament staffPaulSt GeorgeMichelleLaframboise//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1215)[English]Are there questions or comments?[Translation]We now go to Mr. Julian, followed by Mrs. DeBellefeuille.[English]Go ahead, Mr. Julian.MichelleLaframboisePeterJulianNew Westminster—Burnaby//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1215)[English]Madame Laframboise, is there any response to that? No.Madame DeBellefeuille.PeterJulianNew Westminster—BurnabyClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—Suroît//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1220)[Translation]Are there any other questions?[English] Mr. Julian, you have the floor.MichelleLaframboisePeterJulianNew Westminster—Burnaby//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1220)[English] I take it that we have consensus on this.Voices: Agreed.Hon. Anthony Rota: We'll say that's passed and go on.Now we'll go in camera. We're going to take about three minutes so that we can technically move everything over. [Translation]Thank you.The meeting is suspended.[Proceedings continue in camera]MarkHollandHon.Ajax//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgStart of sitting day1TRANSCRIPTBoard of Internal EconomyNUMBER 0151st SESSION44th PARLIAMENTThursday, November 17, 2022Le jeudi 17 novembre 2022Board of Internal EconomyCANADA[Recorded by Electronic Apparatus]TRANSCRIPTNovember 17, 2022CommitteeNUMBER 015NUMBER 015NUMÉRO 015015171120222022/11/17 11:05:00House Of CommonsBureau de régie interneBoard of Internal EconomyBOIE144AnthonyRotaHon.Nipissing—Timiskaming//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota (Speaker of the House of Commons): (1100)[English]We'll get started. This is meeting number 15. We'll start with item number 1, which is the minutes of the previous meeting.[Translation]Would anyone like to comment on the minutes of the previous meeting?As no one wishes to comment, we will go to item 2.[English]It's business arising from previous meetings. [Translation]Mrs. DeBellefeuille, you have the floor. ClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—Suroît//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1105)[Translation]No, we haven't received anything yet.Translation and interpretation servicesTranslation BureauClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—SuroîtClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—Suroît//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1105)[Translation]That's a very good question.We've asked the translation bureau several times to report back to us. Whether it's good or bad news, I'd like to know what's happening.Since Mr. Patrice is discussing this with the translation bureau, perhaps he can better answer you. I will turn the floor over to him.Translation and interpretation servicesTranslation BureauClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—SuroîtMichelPatrice//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1105)[Translation]It would be nice to get some answers and know what's happening.Mr. McDonald, you have the floor.Translation and interpretation servicesTranslation BureauMichelPatriceIanMcDonald//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1110)[Translation]Mr. Aubé, I believe you should answer this question.ClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—SuroîtStéphanAubé//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1110)[Translation]Yes, the decision has taken effect. However, I don't know if or when this information was released.I will turn the floor over to Mr. Patrice so he can answer your question.Roads and road transportationClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—SuroîtMichelPatrice//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1110)[Translation]Thank you, Mrs. DeBellefeuille.Mr. Julian, you now have the floor.ClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—SuroîtPeterJulianNew Westminster—Burnaby//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1115)[Translation]I'll interrupt you, if I may, Mr. Julian. I know that Mr. Patrice has been very involved in this matter. Mr. Patrice, is there anything else you would like to say?Translation and interpretation servicesTranslation BureauPeterJulianNew Westminster—BurnabyMichelPatrice//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1125)[Translation]Mr. Aubé, is there anything you would like to add?Translation and interpretation servicesPeterJulianNew Westminster—BurnabyStéphanAubé//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1125)[Translation]Are there any other questions or comments?As there are none, we will move on to item 3.[English]It's the accessibility plan 2023-25. [Translation]Mr. LaPerrière-Marcoux, you have the floor.Access for disabled peopleParliamentary precinctStéphanAubéGuillaumeLaPerrière-Marcoux//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1130)[Translation]Mr. Julian, you have the floor.[English]Then we'll go on to Mr. Scheer.GuillaumeLaPerrière-MarcouxPeterJulianNew Westminster—Burnaby//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1135)[English]Now we'll go to Mr. MacKinnon, followed by Mr. Scheer and Ms. Findlay.GuillaumeLaPerrière-MarcouxStevenMacKinnonHon.Gatineau//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1140)[Translation]Thank you.[English]Now we'll go to Mr. Scheer, followed by Ms. Findlay.Go ahead, Mr. Scheer.GuillaumeLaPerrière-MarcouxAndrewScheerHon.Regina—Qu'Appelle//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1145)[English]Very good.Now we'll continue with Ms. Findlay, followed by Madam DeBellefeuille.Go ahead, Ms. Findlay.GuillaumeLaPerrière-MarcouxKerry-LynneFindlayHon.South Surrey—White Rock//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1145)[English]I believe Monsieur Bédard might be able to answer that. He's our legal adviser.Kerry-LynneFindlayHon.South Surrey—White RockMichelBédard//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1150)[English]Very good.[Translation] We will continue with Mrs. DeBellefeuille.Kerry-LynneFindlayHon.South Surrey—White RockClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—Suroît//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1155)[Translation]Are there any other questions or comments?[English]Is everybody okay with the recommendation that's being made? Very good. We have consensus.We'll move to item number 4. We'll call up Monsieur St George and Monsieur Fernandez.[Translation]This is a request for an exception.Mr. St George, I yield the floor to you.AdvertisingMembers of ParliamentGuillaumeLaPerrière-MarcouxPaulSt George//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1155)[English]Are there any questions or comments?Go ahead, Mr. Julian.PaulSt GeorgePeterJulianNew Westminster—Burnaby//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1200)[English]Are there other questions or comments?[Translation]Mrs. DeBellefeuille, you have the floor.PeterJulianNew Westminster—BurnabyClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—Suroît//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1200)[Translation]Are there any other questions or comments?I can take it for granted that we agree on this proposal and that it will be implemented this year.[English]We'll proceed from there, and we're approving it. That's very good.Now we'll go in camera. We'll come back at five minutes after 12. That will give us enough time to move in camera.[Translation]The meeting suspended.[Proceedings continue in camera]ClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—Suroît//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgStart of sitting day1TRANSCRIPTBoard of Internal EconomyNUMBER 0141st SESSION44th PARLIAMENTThursday, November 3, 2022Le jeudi 3 novembre 2022Board of Internal EconomyCANADA[Recorded by Electronic Apparatus]TRANSCRIPTNovember 3, 2022CommitteeNUMBER 014NUMBER 014NUMÉRO 014014031120222022/11/03 11:05:00House Of CommonsBureau de régie interneBoard of Internal EconomyBOIE144AnthonyRotaHon.Nipissing—Timiskaming//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota (Speaker of the House of Commons): (1105)[English] I call the meeting to order. If I could have your attention, we'll start.[Translation] We will move on to the agenda of meeting number 14 of the 44th Parliament.[English]This is meeting number 14 of the Board of Internal Economy.[Translation]The first item on the agenda is the minutes of the previous meeting.Does anyone have any questions?No questions, okay.[English]We'll continue with item number 2, business arising from previous minutes. Are there any questions?[Translation]Mrs. DeBellefeuille, you have the floor.ClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—Suroît//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1105)[Translation]You're quite welcome. We are here to serve you.[English]Are there any other comments on the business arising from previous meetings? No. Now we'll go to item number 3.[Translation]Ordinarily, we should go on to the third item on the agenda, but I would like us to move quickly on to the fourth item, because the member who is testifying is here right now and she has other important things to do.If everyone agrees, I would like us to move on to the fourth item on the agenda before going to the third item.[English]We'll do that one quickly, if possible. We'll bring forward Ms. Dzerowicz and Mr. LeBlanc, who will give us a short presentation. Hopefully, if there are any questions we can have them answered.ClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—SuroîtJulieDzerowiczDavenport//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1110)[Translation]Does anyone have a question or comment?[English]We have a recommendation in front of us. Is everyone in favour of the recommendation?Some hon. members: Agreed. Hon. Anthony Rota: Thank you, Ms. Dzerowicz and Mr. LeBlanc.Now we'll move on to item number 3. We'll allow the witnesses to come up. This is something that has been very important to all of us—and to people's health, if nothing else—so that we all have interpretation in both official languages.[Translation]Everyone wants this to be resolved.We will start with Mr. Aubé, Mr. McDonald and Mr. Lemoine.Mr. Aubé, you have the floor.Canadian NATO Parliamentary AssociationFinancingInternational meetingsMontréalJulieDzerowiczDavenportStéphanAubé//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1115)[Translation]Are there questions or comments?Mrs. DeBellefeuille, you have the floor.StéphanAubéClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—Suroît//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1115)[Translation]I don't think there are any other presentations.ClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—SuroîtClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—Suroît//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1115)[Translation]The appropriate person answered the questions, but there was a presentation from...ClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—SuroîtClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—Suroît//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1115)[Translation]Go ahead, Mrs. DeBellefeuille.ClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—SuroîtClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—Suroît//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1125)[Translation]That is a question that would have to be put to Mr. Patrice or Mr. Aubé.ClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—SuroîtStéphanAubé//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1125)[Translation]Personally, I don't think it's a problem. If everyone agrees, we could write a letter to the Speaker of the Senate to inform him of how we do things. He would then be able to understand how we operate. We can't control the senators; they do what they consider appropriate. If we show them our approach, they will perhaps adopt it.Is everyone in agreement?[English] Is everyone okay with our writing a letter to the Senate and saying, “These are our best practices”, and encouraging them to do the same?Translation and interpretation servicesVirtual ParliamentClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—SuroîtPeterJulianNew Westminster—Burnaby//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1125)[Translation]Yes, your name is on the list, Mr. Julian.[English]I have Ms. Findlay and then Mr. Julian, but please go ahead. If there's something to add to this suggestion, please do.PeterJulianNew Westminster—BurnabyPeterJulianNew Westminster—Burnaby//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1125)[Translation]Our door is always open.We will do what is best for members and senators. The Senate and the House are different entities, that is, they each have their own managers.We will write a letter. After that, I can consult you to see whether you are satisfied or I can send it myself.[English]I don't want to start with the big guns firing right off the bat. I'd rather open up diplomatically with just a concern, with suggestions. Hopefully they will take them seriously. I'm sure their interests will fall into play. We share the same pool of interpreters. If we start injuring our interpreters, then both sides lose. Interpreters lose because they lose people, and they're injured. Obviously, that's a personnel problem. The Senate loses because it loses resources, as does the House of Commons. Let's put something together, then.I can appreciate what you're saying, Mr. Julian. Maybe it will be a little bit more of a firm request. I don't want to come across as Arnold Schwarzenegger, for lack of a better word, as the Terminator. It's more about seeing how we can progress in a way that we all benefit from, but thank you.(1130)[Translation]Are there any other questions?Mrs. DeBellefeuille, you have the floor.Translation and interpretation servicesVirtual ParliamentPeterJulianNew Westminster—BurnabyClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—Suroît//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1130)[Translation]I think Ian McDonald will answer your question better than I can.ClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—SuroîtIanMcDonald//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1130)[Translation]I will let you think about that.I don't think we can make that decision here at the Board of Internal Economy.If I understand Mr. McDonald's remarks correctly, it can be done by motion in the House or by agreements in the committees.[English] Next we have Ms. Findlay, followed by Mr. Julian.Go ahead, Ms. Findlay.Translation and interpretation servicesVirtual ParliamentClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—SuroîtKerry-LynneFindlayHon.South Surrey—White Rock//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1135)[English] I think Mr. Aubé would be best to answer that question.Kerry-LynneFindlayHon.South Surrey—White RockStéphanAubé//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1140)[English]“Chair” is probably the right one—either “Mr. Chair” or “Mr. Speaker”. Whichever one you're comfortable with I'll respond to.Kerry-LynneFindlayHon.South Surrey—White RockKerry-LynneFindlayHon.South Surrey—White Rock//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1140)[Translation]Mr. Aubé, you have the floor.Kerry-LynneFindlayHon.South Surrey—White RockStéphanAubé//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1145)[English]I will leave that to the House leaders to work out among themselves.Mr. Julian, I still have your name down on my list, but I don't see your hand up. Do you want to ask some questions as well?Kerry-LynneFindlayHon.South Surrey—White RockPeterJulianNew Westminster—Burnaby//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1150)[Translation]Okay. Thank you.Mr. Aubé, do you have a comment to make or an answer to give?PeterJulianNew Westminster—BurnabyStéphanAubé//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1150)[Translation]Thank you. We will continue with Mr. MacKinnon and then Mrs. DeBellefeuille.You have the floor, Mr. MacKinnon.StéphanAubéStevenMacKinnonHon.Gatineau//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1150)[Translation]We have not yet had an answer to our questions.Translation and interpretation servicesVirtual ParliamentStevenMacKinnonHon.GatineauStevenMacKinnonHon.Gatineau//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1155)[Translation]Right.Mrs. DeBellefeuille will now have the floor.StevenMacKinnonHon.GatineauClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—Suroît//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1155)[Translation]Mr. McDonald or Mr. Aubé, would one of you like to answer the question?ClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—SuroîtIanMcDonald//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1200)[Translation]I will hand the floor over to Mr. Patrice.Translation and interpretation servicesVirtual ParliamentClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—SuroîtMichelPatrice//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1200)[Translation]Thank you.[English] Go ahead, Ms. Findlay.ClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—SuroîtKerry-LynneFindlayHon.South Surrey—White Rock//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1200)[English]Very good.Are there any other questions? [Translation]Because no one else wishes to speak on this subject, we will now move on to the fifth item on the agenda.Just before that, I would like to give a clarification.[English] I just want to make sure that the letter will go out to Senate as well as to the Prime Minister's Office to make sure that both cabinet and Senate are aware of our best practices and will hopefully stick by them. Now we will go on to item 5. It's the Joint Interparliamentary Council report on parliamentary associations' activities and expenditures for 2021-2022.We have Mr. LeBlanc coming forward. Mr. LeBlanc, the floor is all yours.FinancingInternational and Interparliamentary AffairsJoint Interparliamentary CouncilKerry-LynneFindlayHon.South Surrey—White RockJeremyLeBlanc//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1205)[Translation]Are there questions or comments on the report?[English]Go ahead, Ms. Findlay.JeremyLeBlancKerry-LynneFindlayHon.South Surrey—White Rock//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1205)[English]Very good. Are there any other comments or questions?Mr. LeBlanc, if you want to stay, we now have item number 6.I'm sorry. It's the other Mr. LeBlanc. That's my mistake. I was going to say Mr. J. LeBlanc, but that wouldn't help much either. We have Mr. LeBlanc, please.Kerry-LynneFindlayHon.South Surrey—White RockJeffreyLeBlanc//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1210)[English]Very good.Are there any questions on item number 6?Do we have a consensus on going ahead with all three items?I believe we have a question. We have Ms. Sahota, please.JeffreyLeBlancRubySahotaBrampton North//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1210)[English] Go ahead, Mr. LeBlanc.RubySahotaBrampton NorthJeffreyLeBlanc//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1215)[English]We'll have Mr. Julian, followed by Ms. Findlay.Go ahead, Mr. Julian.FinancingParliamentary Internship ProgrammeStaffingRubySahotaBrampton NorthPeterJulianNew Westminster—Burnaby//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1215)[English]We'll go on to Ms. Findlay.PeterJulianNew Westminster—BurnabyKerry-LynneFindlayHon.South Surrey—White Rock//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1215)[English]Good.Go ahead, Ms. Sahota.Kerry-LynneFindlayHon.South Surrey—White RockRubySahotaBrampton North//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1220)[English]I believe our legal counsel has a comment to make on the ethics as well.FinancingParliamentary Internship ProgrammeStaffingJeffreyLeBlancMichelBédard//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1220)[English]Very good. Are there any other questions or comments?There seems to be a consensus around the amount for the increase in pay. That's good. The other one is two additional interns as well as the IT equipment. Is it fair to say that we have consensus on that?Very good. Perfect. Thank you, Mr. LeBlanc.Now we'll bring on Mr. Jeremy LeBlanc for item number 7.FinancingInformation technologyParliamentary Internship ProgrammeStaffingRubySahotaBrampton NorthJeremyLeBlanc//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1225)[English]We have a question. Go ahead, Ms. Sahota.JeremyLeBlancRubySahotaBrampton North//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1225)[English]Go ahead, Ms. Findlay.RubySahotaBrampton NorthKerry-LynneFindlayHon.South Surrey—White Rock//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1225)[English]Are there any other questions or comments?[Translation]Mrs. DeBellefeuille, you have the floor.Kerry-LynneFindlayHon.South Surrey—White RockClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—Suroît//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1225)[Translation]I will now hand the floor over to Mr. Julian.ClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—SuroîtPeterJulianNew Westminster—Burnaby//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1230)[Translation]Right.Mr. McKinnon, you have the floor.PeterJulianNew Westminster—BurnabyStevenMacKinnonHon.Gatineau//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1230)[Translation]Right. I think there is a consensus among the members.[English]We'll continue and ask them for more details.[Translation]Thank you for your presentation, Mr. LeBlanc.[English]Now we'll go to item number 8, ground transportation between the secondary residence and the normal place of work.We have Monsieur St George and Mr. Fernandez.Canadian Association of Former ParliamentariansFinancingStevenMacKinnonHon.GatineauPaulSt George//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1230)[English]Are there any questions or comments?[Translation]Are we agreed?Some hon. members: Agreed.(1235)[English]Hon. Anthony Rota: That went well. It was easy.Very good.[Translation]I am now going to suspend the meeting for a few minutes before we go in camera. [Proceedings continue in camera] Car rentalExpensesMembers of ParliamentTravelPaulSt George//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgStart of sitting day1TRANSCRIPTBoard of Internal EconomyNUMBER 0131st SESSION44th PARLIAMENTThursday, September 29, 2022Le jeudi 29 septembre 2022Board of Internal EconomyCANADA[Recorded by Electronic Apparatus]TRANSCRIPTSeptember 29, 2022CommitteeNUMBER 013NUMBER 013NUMÉRO 013013290920222022/09/29 11:05:00House Of CommonsBureau de régie interneBoard of Internal EconomyBOIE144AnthonyRotaHon.Nipissing—Timiskaming//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota (Speaker of the House of Commons): (1105)[English] Welcome to meeting number 13.[Translation]This meeting is televised, and members may participate by videoconference.[English]We'll start with number one—minutes from the previous meetings.Are there any questions or amendments?Mr. Julian, go ahead. PeterJulianNew Westminster—Burnaby//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1105)[English] That is correct.Before going to number two, I'm going to welcome Ms. Findlay and Mr. Scheer, our two new members.Welcome, and congratulations.Board of Internal Economy MemberFindlay, Kerry-Lynne D.Members of Parliament staffScheer, AndrewPeterJulianNew Westminster—BurnabyAndrewScheerHon.Regina—Qu'Appelle//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1105)[English]Just to clarify, which one of you two is going to be the official spokesperson?Board of Internal Economy SpokespersonAndrewScheerHon.Regina—Qu'AppelleKerry-LynneFindlayHon.South Surrey—White Rock//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1105)[English]Okay. That's very good. Thank you, and welcome.Now we'll move on to item number two—business arising from previous meeting.Madame DeBellefeuille, go ahead.Kerry-LynneFindlayHon.South Surrey—White RockClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—Suroît//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1105)[Translation]I think that Mr. Patrice or the Sergeant-at-Arms could confirm that for you.Alarm systems and warning devicesFrancophonesFrenchClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—SuroîtPatMcDonell//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1105)[Translation]The question is on the lockdown alert.Mrs. DeBellefeuille, could you repeat your question, please?PatMcDonellClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—Suroît//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1120)[Translation]Thank you, Mrs. DeBellefeuille. We will now continue with Mr. Julian. ClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—SuroîtPeterJulianNew Westminster—Burnaby//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1125)[Translation]Are there any comments or questions on the second point?Mrs. DeBellefeuille, you have the floor.PeterJulianNew Westminster—BurnabyClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—Suroît//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1125)[Translation]Yes.ClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—SuroîtClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—Suroît//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1125)[Translation]It was distributed to members of the committee for information purposes only, but if you have questions on it, you may ask them. ClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—SuroîtClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—Suroît//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1130)[Translation] I know a lot of work has been done on this.I'm going to turn it over to Mr. Aubé, who can explain what has happened so far and the negotiations that have taken place.You have the floor, Mr. Aubé.ClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—SuroîtStéphanAubé//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1130)[Translation]Mr. Julian, you have the floor.ClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—SuroîtPeterJulianNew Westminster—Burnaby//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1130)[Translation]Are there any other questions or comments?Since there are none, we will move on to item 3: the 2021‑22 audited financial statements.This morning our speakers are Mr. St George, Mr. Fernandez, Mr. Newman and Mr. Généreux.Mr. St George, I yield the floor to you.Financial statementsHouse of CommonsStéphanAubéPaulSt George//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1135)[English] Andrew Newman, please proceed.PaulSt GeorgeAndrewNewman//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1135)[English]Do we have any questions?[Translation] Does anyone want to comment?[English]Seeing none, I want to thank Mr. St George, Mr. Fernandez, Mr. Newman and Mr. Généreux.I understand that it's normal and good governance practice for independent auditors to have a discussion in camera with board members without management present regarding the preparation of the year-end audited financial statements. Therefore, I would like to propose to board members that we hold a short in camera session without the House administration officials to allow board members to have this discussion.Do I have acceptance of the members to proceed in camera?Some hon. members: Agreed.Hon. Anthony Rota: Very good.Thank you. We will now take a short break to transition.At this time, I'll ask the House administration's officials to exit the room, both in person and virtually. Once the discussion is complete, those in person will be summoned back into the room and those participating virtually will receive an email summoning them to rejoin us in the room.[Proceedings continue in camera]AndrewNewman//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgStart of sitting day1TRANSCRIPTBoard of Internal EconomyNUMBER 0121st SESSION44th PARLIAMENTThursday, June 23, 2022Le jeudi 23 juin 2022Board of Internal EconomyCANADA[Recorded by Electronic Apparatus]TRANSCRIPTJune 23, 2022CommitteeNUMBER 012NUMBER 012NUMÉRO 012012230620222022/06/23 11:10:00House Of CommonsBureau de régie interneBoard of Internal EconomyBOIE144AnthonyRotaHon.Nipissing—Timiskaming//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota (Speaker of the House of Commons): (1105)[English]Welcome to the 12th meeting of the Board of Internal Economy of the 44th legislature. We'll start off with the minutes of the previous meeting. Are there any questions or comments?Mr. Brassard, you have the floor.JohnBrassardBarrie—Innisfil//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1110)[English]That's clarified.JohnBrassardBarrie—InnisfilJohnBrassardBarrie—Innisfil//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1110)[English]Are there any other comments on the minutes of the previous meeting?[Translation]Since no one has any questions or comments, let us move on to the second item, business arising from the previous meeting.[English]Is there anything that we want to bring up?[Translation]Everything is clear? Perfect.[English]Now we'll go to number three.[Translation]The third item is the LTVP working group.[English]The presenters this morning will be Mr. Chris d'Entremont, who is the chair of the working group on the LTVP and the Centre Block rehabilitation; Mr. Rob Wright, assistant deputy minister, science and parliamentary infrastructure branch, Public Services and Procurement Canada; and Darrell de Grandmont, director of the Centre Block program. Who will be presenting?Parliament Buildings Renovation ProjectParliamentary precinctJohnBrassardBarrie—InnisfilChrisd'EntremontWest Nova//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1110)[Translation]Okay.Mr. d'Entremont, you have the floor.Chrisd'EntremontWest NovaChrisd'EntremontWest Nova//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1120)[English]Very good.Are there any questions or comments?We'll start with Mr. Julian and then go over to Mr. Brassard.Chrisd'EntremontWest NovaPeterJulianNew Westminster—Burnaby//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1125)[English]Very good.Mr. Julian, are you all done? Okay.Now we'll go on to Mr. Brassard, followed by Mr. MacKinnon.Chrisd'EntremontWest NovaJohnBrassardBarrie—Innisfil//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1130)[English]I'm not sure either.Parliament Buildings Renovation ProjectParliamentary precinctJohnBrassardBarrie—InnisfilChrisd'EntremontWest Nova//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1130)[English]We have lots of time.Chrisd'EntremontWest NovaJohnBrassardBarrie—Innisfil//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1140)[English] Mr. Patrice, go ahead. JohnBrassardBarrie—InnisfilMichelPatrice//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1140)[English]Very good. We'll go on to Mr. MacKinnon, followed by Mr. Julian. JohnBrassardBarrie—InnisfilChrisd'EntremontWest Nova//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1140)[English]I'm sorry. Go ahead.JohnBrassardBarrie—InnisfilChrisd'EntremontWest Nova//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1140)[English]It's Mr. MacKinnon, followed by Mr. Julian. JohnBrassardBarrie—InnisfilStevenMacKinnonHon.Gatineau//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1145)[Translation]I think Mr. d'Entremont would like to say something.StevenMacKinnonHon.GatineauChrisd'EntremontWest Nova//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1145)[English]Go ahead, Mr. Julian.Chrisd'EntremontWest NovaPeterJulianNew Westminster—Burnaby//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1145)[Translation]That is for the members of the Board of Internal Economy to decide.[English]Do we want to suspend and go to vote, or do we want to vote on our phones and continue with this?PeterJulianNew Westminster—BurnabyJohnBrassardBarrie—Innisfil//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1145)[English]I believe we want to go to the chamber.JohnBrassardBarrie—InnisfilPeterJulianNew Westminster—Burnaby//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1145)[Translation]Okay.If everyone agrees, we will suspend the meeting until the vote is completed. We will then resume after the vote. Please join our meeting once the vote is completed.PeterJulianNew Westminster—BurnabyAnthonyRotaHon.Nipissing—Timiskaming//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1215)[English] We're going to resume the meeting.I believe there were some questions being asked.Mr. Julian, you were in the middle of one.AnthonyRotaHon.Nipissing—TimiskamingPeterJulianNew Westminster—Burnaby//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1230)[Translation]Thank you.Are there any other questions or comments?If not, I have a question.[English]I'm not sure whether this is more a question of management than of design. We now have a shuttle system on the Hill that operates on a daily basis. Would that shuttle system be needed if we had the tunnels? If we don't need it, what is the cost on an annual basis of operating those shuttles, both in replacement costs for the shuttles and in operations, not only in fuel but in human resources?Michel, go ahead.House of Commons Transportation ServicesParliament Buildings Renovation ProjectParliamentary precinctPeterJulianNew Westminster—BurnabyMichelPatrice//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1230)[English]Mr. d'Entremont, go ahead.MichelPatriceChrisd'EntremontWest Nova//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1235)[English]It's interesting that you should mention that, because my next question has to do with moving sidewalks like the ones they have in airports. Is that something being considered?Access for disabled peopleParliament Buildings Renovation ProjectParliamentary precinctChrisd'EntremontWest NovaRobWright//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1235)[English]Are there any other questions?RobWrightChrisd'EntremontWest Nova//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1235)[English]That's perfect.Chrisd'EntremontWest NovaBlaineCalkinsRed Deer—Lacombe//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1235)[English]Yes, of course. It might be hydrogen by then. I don't know. Are there any more questions or comments? I think we're done.I want to thank both of you for being here today and for putting up with the vote. I just want to make a comment. Bruce Stanton was the epitome of a Deputy Speaker. When he left, I thought, boy, this is going to be tough to replace. I want to say, Mr. d'Entremont, that you have been doing a wonderful job both on this committee and as Deputy Speaker. I understand that you have an anniversary coming up as well for 25 years of service. BlaineCalkinsRed Deer—LacombeChrisd'EntremontWest Nova//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1235)[English]Thank you for your years of service, and your years of service here on the Hill. Chrisd'EntremontWest NovaChrisd'EntremontWest Nova//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1235)[Translation]Thank you very much.[English]Now we'll go in camera. Do we have consensus on the recommendation to proceed?Some hon. members: Agreed.The Chair: Very good.[Translation]We will take a few minutes to go in camera.The meeting is suspended.[Proceedings continue in camera]Chrisd'EntremontWest Nova//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgStart of sitting day1TRANSCRIPTBoard of Internal EconomyNUMBER 0111st SESSION44th PARLIAMENTThursday, June 16, 2022Le jeudi 16 juin 2022Board of Internal EconomyCANADA[Recorded by Electronic Apparatus]TRANSCRIPTJune 16, 2022CommitteeNUMBER 011NUMBER 011NUMÉRO 011011160620222022/06/16 11:00:00House Of CommonsBureau de régie interneBoard of Internal EconomyBOIE144AnthonyRotaHon.Nipissing—Timiskaming//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota (Speaker of the House of Commons): (1100)[Translation]I call the meeting to order.Welcome to the eleventh meeting of the Board of Internal Economy of the 44th Parliament.[English] We'll start off with the minutes of the previous meeting. [Translation]We have a point of order, or a request from Mrs. DeBellefeuille.ClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—Suroît//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1100)[Translation]Do we have everyone's agreement?Mr. Brassard would like to speakClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—SuroîtJohnBrassardBarrie—Innisfil//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1100)[Translation]Mrs. DeBellefeuille, is this acceptable?JohnBrassardBarrie—InnisfilClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—Suroît//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1100)[Translation]That's fine.[English]Go ahead, Mr. Julian.ClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—SuroîtPeterJulianNew Westminster—Burnaby//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1100)[English]Mr. Holland, you have the floor.PeterJulianNew Westminster—BurnabyMarkHollandHon.Ajax//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1100)[English]Go ahead, Mr. Brassard.MarkHollandHon.AjaxJohnBrassardBarrie—Innisfil//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1105)[English]Do we have consent to adopt the new order, which would be item number 8 followed by number 7, and then over to number 4 and then to number 9? Does that make sense? Did I read that correctly?JohnBrassardBarrie—InnisfilPeterJulianNew Westminster—Burnaby//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1105)[English]No?PeterJulianNew Westminster—BurnabyPeterJulianNew Westminster—Burnaby//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1105)[Translation]I see.I had understood that we would meet in camera at first, but we can—Mr. Brassard, you have the floor.PeterJulianNew Westminster—BurnabyJohnBrassardBarrie—Innisfil//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1105)[English] I guess what I'm looking for is direction.First of all, do we agree on the change, and what will that change be? Do we go the public route first and then over to the in camera route, or vice versa? I'm hearing different stories.JohnBrassardBarrie—InnisfilJohnBrassardBarrie—Innisfil//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1105)[English]Okay. That's what I had heard.Is that acceptable?JohnBrassardBarrie—InnisfilPeterJulianNew Westminster—Burnaby//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1105)[English]Mr. Holland is shaking his head.No...?PeterJulianNew Westminster—BurnabyMarkHollandHon.Ajax//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1105)[English]Are we okay to start with numbers 4 and 9 and then come back in camera?MarkHollandHon.AjaxJohnBrassardBarrie—Innisfil//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1105)[Translation]Mrs. DeBellefeuille, you have the floor.JohnBrassardBarrie—InnisfilClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—Suroît//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1105)[Translation]Very well.I think we're all in agreement to ask that the Sergeant‑at‑Arms give a report at the next meeting, which is next Thursday.We will start with item 8 on the agenda.[English]I'm sorry. We're going to go in camera first.ClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—SuroîtPeterJulianNew Westminster—Burnaby//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1105)[English]I'm sorry. That's my mistake.We've gone back and forth so many times I got confused. That's fine. We'll start with number 4: “Cost Pressures on Members' Budgets”.[Translation]Mr. St George and Mr. Fernandez will make their presentation.PeterJulianNew Westminster—BurnabyPeterJulianNew Westminster—Burnaby//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1105)[English]Realistically, Mr. d'Entremont, if you don't mind coming back at our next meeting...? PeterJulianNew Westminster—BurnabyChrisd'EntremontWest Nova//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1105)[English]We apologize for bringing you out.Chrisd'EntremontWest NovaChrisd'EntremontWest Nova//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1105)[English]Thank you.Thank you for bringing that up, Mr. Julian. That's a good point.While we're still public, do we want to cover item number 2?[Translation]This item pertains to business arising from the previous meeting.[English]Everything is okay? Good. We've done one. We've done two.Now we'll go to number 4: “Cost Pressures on Members' Budgets”.(1110)[Translation]Mr. St George, you have the floor.Government expendituresChrisd'EntremontWest NovaPaulSt George//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1110)[English]Are there any questions or comments?We'll have Mr. MacKinnon, followed by Mr. Julian. Mr. MacKinnon.PaulSt GeorgeStevenMacKinnonHon.Gatineau//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1115)[Translation]Perfect.[English]Now we'll go to Mr. Julian, followed by Mr. Calkins and then over to Mr. Brassard. Mr. Julian.JoséFernandezPeterJulianNew Westminster—Burnaby//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1120)[English]Do we have consensus on requesting that from Mr. St George? I believe we do.[Translation]Mrs. DeBellefeuille, you have the floor.Constituency officesGovernment expendituresPeterJulianNew Westminster—BurnabyClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—Suroît//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1120)[Translation]No, not at all. We're asking Mr. St George to submit a report so we can determine if there will be other solutions in the future.[English]We're good with that.Now we'll go to Mr. Calkins, followed by Mr. Brassard.[Translation]Then it will be Mrs. DeBellefeuille's turn.Constituency officesGovernment expendituresPeterJulianNew Westminster—BurnabyBlaineCalkinsRed Deer—Lacombe//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1120)[English]Oh, I'm sorry. Go ahead.BlaineCalkinsRed Deer—LacombeBlaineCalkinsRed Deer—Lacombe//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1120)[English] What exactly are we saying here? We're not asking for a report, or we are, or there's a problem with asking for some kind of examination?Go ahead, Mr. MacKinnon.Constituency officesGovernment expendituresBlaineCalkinsRed Deer—LacombeStevenMacKinnonHon.Gatineau//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1120)[English]Very good.We'll continue....Mr. Brassard, did you want to add to that?StevenMacKinnonHon.GatineauJohnBrassardBarrie—Innisfil//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1120)[English]Is that something that we—Income and wagesMembers of Parliament staffJohnBrassardBarrie—InnisfilPeterJulianNew Westminster—Burnaby//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1120)[English]—would take care of in camera, along with number seven?Income and wagesMembers of Parliament staffPeterJulianNew Westminster—BurnabyJohnBrassardBarrie—Innisfil//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1120)[English]I think that would be a more appropriate place for it.Income and wagesMembers of Parliament staffJohnBrassardBarrie—InnisfilJohnBrassardBarrie—Innisfil//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1120)[English]It seems like it would fit better in item number seven, which is our fourth item.JohnBrassardBarrie—InnisfilJohnBrassardBarrie—Innisfil//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1120)[English]I think the argument's already been made, and it seems like there's some consensus, so we'll move on and get back to that one in a second.Right now, we have Mr. Calkins, followed by Mr. Brassard [Translation]Then it will be Mrs. DeBellefeuille's turn.[English]Go ahead, Mr. Calkins.JohnBrassardBarrie—InnisfilBlaineCalkinsRed Deer—Lacombe//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1125)[English]Go ahead, Mr. Brassard. You're fine? Very good.[Translation]Mrs. DeBellefeuille, you have the floor.BlaineCalkinsRed Deer—LacombeClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—Suroît//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1125)[Translation]Mr. Julian, the floor is yours.ClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—SuroîtPeterJulianNew Westminster—Burnaby//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1125)[Translation]Are there any other questions or comments?[English] Go ahead, Mr. Holland.You're on mute, Mr. Holland, or there's a glitch of some sort.PeterJulianNew Westminster—BurnabyMarkHollandHon.Ajax//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1125)[English]We can hear you. It's perfect.MarkHollandHon.AjaxMarkHollandHon.Ajax//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1125)[English]There's no interpretation, apparently, due to the quality of the sound.MarkHollandHon.AjaxMarkHollandHon.Ajax//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1130)[English]That's good. Please proceed.MarkHollandHon.AjaxMarkHollandHon.Ajax//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1130)[English] Monsieur George or Monsieur Patrice can take that. I believe Mr. Patrice wants to take this question.MarkHollandHon.AjaxMichelPatrice//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1130)[English]Then what we are doing is this. I seem to have consensus on the recommendations, and we will be coming back with a report. The staff will be coming back with a report on the office costs, possibly looking at the B.C. model. From there, the other issues will be looked at on a separate basis, so we are good. Very good, we'll continue then with item number 9, “Professional Development Project and Training for Members' Employees”.I believe Ms. Daigle will be making the presentation. Am I correct? Yes, okay, we'll let Ms. Daigle continue, and Ms. Laframboise will be there as well. Constituency officesEducation and trainingGovernment expendituresMembers of Parliament staffMarkHollandHon.AjaxRobynDaigle//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1135)[English]Are there questions or comments?[Translation]Go ahead, Mrs. DeBellefeuille.RobynDaigleClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—Suroît//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1135)[Translation]Mr. Julian, you have the floor.RobynDaiglePeterJulianNew Westminster—Burnaby//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1140)[English] Okay.Mr. Holland, go ahead.PeterJulianNew Westminster—BurnabyMarkHollandHon.Ajax//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1140)[English]Very good.Are there any other comments or questions? I take it that we are all in accordance with this and the recommendation is going through. Very good.I think—Education and trainingMembers of Parliament staffMarkHollandHon.AjaxPeterJulianNew Westminster—Burnaby//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1140)[English]Mr. Julian, go ahead.PeterJulianNew Westminster—BurnabyPeterJulianNew Westminster—Burnaby//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1140)[English] Okay. We're good till March 31.Is there a date you want to suggest?Education and trainingMembers of Parliament staffPeterJulianNew Westminster—BurnabyPeterJulianNew Westminster—Burnaby//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1140)[English]You're suggesting the end of the year.Does that sound good to everyone?Some hon. members: Agreed.Hon. Anthony Rota: Okay. We'll come back with it before the end of the year. Very good.Ms. Daigle, on behalf of the board, thank you very much for your service. I wish you all the best. I'm very happy you're not leaving the Hill. You're still going to be within arm's reach—I should say “arm's length”—if we need you. You are leaving a void, but we wish you all the best in your new endeavour.Thank you.Education and trainingMembers of Parliament staffPeterJulianNew Westminster—BurnabyRobynDaigle//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1140)[English]We'll now go in camera.[Translation]The meeting was suspended for a few minutes.[English]I would ask everyone to stick around. As soon as we go in camera, we'll continue.[Translation]Thank you.[Proceedings continue in camera](1140)(1215)[Public proceedings resume]RobynDaigleAnthonyRotaHon.Nipissing—Timiskaming//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1215)[English]We're going to number 5. It's the “2021-2022 Year-End Financial Report” and carry-forward to 2022-2023.We have Monsieur St George and Monsieur Fernandez.2021-2022 Year-end Financial ReportGovernment expendituresAnthonyRotaHon.Nipissing—TimiskamingAnthonyRotaHon.Nipissing—Timiskaming//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: [Translation]You have the floor.AnthonyRotaHon.Nipissing—TimiskamingPaulSt George//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1220)[Translation]Are there any questions or comments?[English]Mr. Calkins.PaulSt GeorgeBlaineCalkinsRed Deer—Lacombe//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1225)[English]Thank you.[Translation]Are there any questions or comments?[English]Everyone is in accordance with the recommendation.Some hon. members: Agreed.Hon. Anthony Rota: We'll move on to number 10.We have Ian McDonald, who will be presenting to us.2021-2022 Year-end Financial ReportGovernment expendituresPaulSt GeorgeIanMcDonald//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1225)[English]Are there any questions or comments?[Translation]Mrs. DeBellefeuille, you have the floor.IanMcDonaldClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—Suroît//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1225)[Translation]I'm sorry to interrupt.Are you referring to item 10 or item 11 of the agenda?I see that we're at item 10.IanMcDonaldClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—Suroît//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1225)[Translation]The question will still be for Mr. McDonald, but I want to make sure that all the participants know what item we're referring to.ClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—SuroîtEricJanse//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1225)[Translation]Okay. That's great.EricJanseClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—Suroît//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1225)[Translation]You do it very well. I have no doubt about that.ClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—SuroîtClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—Suroît//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1225)[Translation]Perfect. We're going to continue.Perhaps we can discuss items 10 and 11 at the same time.ClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—SuroîtClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—Suroît//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1225)[Translation]Yes, absolutely.ClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—SuroîtIanMcDonald//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1240)[Translation]Are there any questions or comments?Thank you very much, Mr. McDonald.This item doesn't require a decision, but it certainly brought some issues to our attention.Shall we move on to item 11?[English] I'm sorry. We have to table....Are we okay with tabling this report?Some hon. members: Agreed.Hon. Anthony Rota: Good. I think that's fair. We're down to item number 11. Have we already covered that?Committee Activities and Expenditures, April 1, 2021 - December 31, 2022FinancingClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—SuroîtClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—Suroît//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1240)[Translation]Mr. Aubé, please go ahead.ClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—SuroîtStéphanAubé//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1240)[Translation]Go ahead, Mr. Julian.StéphanAubéPeterJulianNew Westminster—Burnaby//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1245)[Translation]What I've heard is that the report will be shared with members once it has been translated.Translation and interpretation servicesVirtual ParliamentPeterJulianNew Westminster—BurnabyPeterJulianNew Westminster—Burnaby//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1245)[Translation]Are there any other questions or comments?We will now go to item 12, “Report to Canadians 2022”. The presenter will be Charles Robert, the Clerk of the House of Commons.Go ahead, Mr. Robert.House of Commons administrationReport to Canadians 2022PeterJulianNew Westminster—BurnabyCharlesRobert//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1245)[Translation]Are there any questions or comments?Mrs. DeBellefeuille, you have the floor.CharlesRobertClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—Suroît//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1250)[Translation]Any other questions or comments?[English] We should table it in the House of Commons.[Translation]Thank you very much.There is just item 6 remaining, and the meeting will end in 10 minutes. I do not think we have enough time.I will give Mr. Julian the floor, and then over to Mrs. DeBellefeuille.House of Commons administrationReport to Canadians 2022CharlesRobertPeterJulianNew Westminster—Burnaby//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1250)[Translation]Mrs. DeBellefeuille, do you have something to add?PeterJulianNew Westminster—BurnabyClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—Suroît//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1250)[English]Mr. Brassard, do you have an intervention?ClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—SuroîtJohnBrassardBarrie—Innisfil//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1250)[English]Very good. Thank you very much for your co-operation today. We did cover a lot of ground.The meeting is adjourned.JohnBrassardBarrie—Innisfil//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgDaily adjournmentAnthonyRotaHon.Nipissing—Timiskaming//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgStart of sitting day1TRANSCRIPTBoard of Internal EconomyNUMBER 0101st SESSION44th PARLIAMENTThursday, June 9, 2022Le jeudi 9 juin 2022Board of Internal EconomyCANADA[Recorded by Electronic Apparatus]TRANSCRIPTJune 9, 2022CommitteeNUMBER 010NUMBER 010NUMÉRO 010010090620222022/06/09 11:10:00House Of CommonsBureau de régie interneBoard of Internal EconomyBOIE144AnthonyRotaHon.Nipissing—Timiskaming//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota (Speaker of the House of Commons): (1105)[English]This is the 10th meeting of the Board of Internal Economy in the 44th Parliament.We're going to start with the minutes of the previous meeting, number one. [Translation]Are there any questions about the first item in the minutes of the previous meeting? No? Everything is in place.AnthonyRotaHon.Nipissing—Timiskaming//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota(1110)[English]We'll continue with number two.[Translation]This is business arising from the previous meeting. Are there any questions or comments on this? No? Good.Let's move on to the third item: the Special Committee on the Canada-People's Republic of China. The speaker will be Ian McDonald, the clerk assistant.[English]Mr. McDonald, I'll let you take it from here. Government expendituresSpecial Committee on the Canada-People's Republic of China RelationshipAnthonyRotaHon.Nipissing—TimiskamingIanMcDonald//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1110)[Translation]Are there any other questions?Mr. Brassard, you have the floor.IanMcDonaldJohnBrassardBarrie—Innisfil//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1110)[English]Very good. Are there any other questions?Very good, so we're okay with the recommendation of the $50,000?Some hon. members: Agreed. Hon. Anthony Rota: Very good.We'll go on to number four, members' advertising and hospitality expenses. The presenter will be Monsieur St George, chief financial officer, and Monsieur Fernandez. Accommodation and hospitality servicesAdvertisingGovernment expendituresSpecial Committee on the Canada-People's Republic of China RelationshipJohnBrassardBarrie—InnisfilPaulSt George//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1110)[English] Are there any questions or comments?(1115)Yes, Mr. Brassard.PaulSt GeorgeJohnBrassardBarrie—Innisfil//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1115)[English]Very good.Are there other questions or comments?[Translation]Mrs. DeBellefeuille, you have the floor. PaulSt GeorgeClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—Suroît//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1115)[Translation]Thank you.Are there any other questions or comments?Are we in agreement on the recommendations?[English]Mr. Calkins, I think you have a comment.ClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—SuroîtBlaineCalkinsRed Deer—Lacombe//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1115)[English]Very good.Are there any other questions or comments?Okay. Now we'll go in camera—Oh, sorry.PaulSt GeorgeRubySahotaBrampton North//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1115)[Translation]Are there any other questions or comments?It seems not.[English]We will now go in camera.[Translation]We're going to take a two-minute break. I think that should be sufficient.[English]We will have to excuse certain members of the table. I think that's pretty well everyone. We will call on you as soon as we're finished.[Proceedings continue in camera]RubySahotaBrampton North//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgDaily adjournmentAnthonyRotaHon.Nipissing—Timiskaming//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgStart of sitting day1TRANSCRIPTBoard of Internal EconomyNUMBER 0091st SESSION44th PARLIAMENTThursday, June 2, 2022Le jeudi 2 juin 2022Board of Internal EconomyCANADA[Recorded by Electronic Apparatus]TRANSCRIPTJune 2, 2022CommitteeNUMBER 009NUMBER 009NUMÉRO 009009020620222022/06/02 11:00:00House Of CommonsBureau de régie interneBoard of Internal EconomyBOIE144AnthonyRotaHon.Nipissing—Timiskaming//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota (Speaker of the House of Commons): (1100)[English]I call this meeting to order. This is meeting number nine of the Board of Internal Economy in the 44th Parliament.We'll start off with the minutes of the previous meeting. Are there any questions or points arising?Mr. Brassard.JohnBrassardBarrie—Innisfil//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1100)[English]We'll make sure that adjustment is made. Is everybody in favour of that? Everybody's fine. Very good.Is there anything else on the minutes of the previous meeting?[Translation]We will move on to the second item on the agenda, business arising from the previous meeting.Are there any comments or suggestions?I see that there are none.[English]Agenda item three is the Joint Interparliamentary Council.[Translation]This concerns the Assemblée parlementaire de la Francophonie and the 49th annual session that will be held in Montreal from July 4 to 9, 2024.Appearing today are Francis Drouin, chair of the Canadian Branch of the Assemblée parlementaire de la Francophonie, and Jeremy LeBlanc, clerk assistant and director general, International and Interparliamentary Affairs. Mr. Drouin, go ahead.JohnBrassardBarrie—InnisfilFrancisDrouinGlengarry—Prescott—Russell//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1105)[Translation]Are there any questions or comments?Mr. Brassard, go ahead.FrancisDrouinGlengarry—Prescott—RussellJohnBrassardBarrie—Innisfil//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1105)[English]Very good.Are there any other questions?[Translation]There are no other questions.Do committee members agree with the proposed recommendation?We have unanimous consent.We will move on to the fourth item on the agenda, the Pay Equity Act.[English]The presenter today will be Michelle Laframboise, chief human resources officer.[Translation]Ms. Laframboise, go ahead.Pay Equity ActJohnBrassardBarrie—InnisfilMichelleLaframboise//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1110)[Translation]Are there any questions or comments.[English]Mr. Brassard, you have the floor.MichelleLaframboiseJohnBrassardBarrie—Innisfil//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1110)[Translation]We will now continue with Mrs. DeBellefeuille, who will be followed by Mr. Calkins.Mrs. DeBellefeuille, go ahead.MichelleLaframboiseClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—Suroît//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1115)[Translation]Mrs. DeBellefeuille, can you start over? There was a transmission problem, and we missed part of the question.ClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—SuroîtClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—Suroît//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1115)[Translation]Thank you.[English] We'll now go to Mr. Calkins.ClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—SuroîtBlaineCalkinsRed Deer—Lacombe//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1115)[English]Are there any other questions?That's very good. That was strictly for information. Everybody understands it perfectly now. I'm glad to see that.Now we'll move on to item five, the annual report on the members of the House of Commons' workplace harassment and violence prevention policy for 2021-22. The presenter will be Michelle Laframboise, chief human resources officer.Annual Report on the Members of the House of Commons Workplace Harassment and Violence Policy for 2021–2022HarassmentBlaineCalkinsRed Deer—LacombeMichelleLaframboise//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1120)[Translation]Are there any questions or comments?[English]We have Mr. Brassard, followed by Mr. Julian.MichelleLaframboiseJohnBrassardBarrie—Innisfil//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1120)[English]Very good.Now we'll go on to Mr. Julian, followed by Ms. Sahota[Translation]It will then be Mrs. DeBellefeuille's turn.[English]Mr. Julian.JohnBrassardBarrie—InnisfilPeterJulianNew Westminster—Burnaby//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1125)[Translation]Thank you, Mr. Julian.[English]We will go to Ms. Sahota.Ms. Sahota.PeterJulianNew Westminster—BurnabyRubySahotaBrampton North//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1130)[English]That's very good.[Translation]Do you have anything to add, Mr. Dufresne?RubySahotaBrampton NorthPhilippeDufresne//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1130)[Translation]Go ahead, Mrs. DeBellefeuille. You have the floor.PhilippeDufresneClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—Suroît//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1130)[Translation]Thank you.Are there any other questions?I see that there aren't any.So we'll move on to the sixth item, “temporary COVID‑19 financial policies”.Our presenters are Paul St George, who is the chief financial officer, and José Fernandez, who is the deputy chief financial officer.The floor is yours.COVID-19Government expendituresPandemicClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—SuroîtPaulSt George//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1135)[Translation]Are there any questions or comments?[English]We'll go to Mr. Brassard, followed by Mr. Julian.Monsieur Brassard.PaulSt GeorgeJohnBrassardBarrie—Innisfil//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1135)[English]We'll go on to Mr. Julian.Mr. Julian.JohnBrassardBarrie—InnisfilPeterJulianNew Westminster—Burnaby//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1135)[English] Are there any other comments or questions?Mr. Brassard.PeterJulianNew Westminster—BurnabyJohnBrassardBarrie—Innisfil//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1140)[English]Very good.We'll now go to Mr. Julian.JohnBrassardBarrie—InnisfilPeterJulianNew Westminster—Burnaby//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1140)[English]Are there any comments on that?If I could interject, I was thinking exactly the same thing because I know my staff went out to buy some and I instructed them to go to the nearest pharmacy. They went in, got them for free and brought them back. I'm not sure if this is even a question that's in line or in your bailiwick, but do we know if all the provinces allowed for citizens to go to pharmacies to pick them up? I'm in Ontario, and that's the way it works here.COVID-19Government expendituresHealth screeningPandemicPeterJulianNew Westminster—BurnabyPaulSt George//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1140)[English]Okay. I'm not saying to take away the option to buy it, but I'll just maybe point it out to MPs that they don't have to.... I was going to say they don't have to spend federal money but put it on the provinces. That's not exactly the way I wanted to put it, but basically that's what it comes down to.Are there any other comments? Very good.Do we approve the recommendations that have been put forward? Some hon. members: Agreed.Hon. Anthony Rota: Now we'll go in camera to deal with item number seven when we come back. We're going to take about a two-minute break. Thank you.[Proceedings continue in camera]COVID-19Government expendituresHealth screeningPandemicPaulSt George//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgStart of sitting day1TRANSCRIPTBoard of Internal EconomyNUMBER 0081st SESSION44th PARLIAMENTThursday, May 19, 2022Le jeudi 19 mai 2022Board of Internal EconomyCANADA[Recorded by Electronic Apparatus]TRANSCRIPTMay 19, 2022CommitteeNUMBER 008NUMBER 008NUMÉRO 008008190520222022/05/19 11:05:00House Of CommonsBureau de régie interneBoard of Internal EconomyBOIE144AnthonyRotaHon.Nipissing—Timiskaming//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota (Speaker of the House of Commons): (1100)[English]This is meeting number eight on Thursday, May 19.We will start off with number one, the minutes of the previous meeting. Are there any questions or any comments arising from the minutes of the previous meeting?I hear nothing, so we can move on. That's very good. We have consensus.[Translation] We are now on the second agenda item, business arising from the previous meeting.Are there any questions or comments?Everything is clear. Great. We can move on.[English]Now we are going to go in camera, so we will take a one-minute break...or I guess it takes about three minutes to make that change.[Proceedings continue in camera]//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgStart of sitting day1TRANSCRIPTBoard of Internal EconomyNUMBER 0071st SESSION44th PARLIAMENTThursday, May 12, 2022Le jeudi 12 mai 2022Board of Internal EconomyCANADA[Recorded by Electronic Apparatus]TRANSCRIPTMay 12, 2022CommitteeNUMBER 007NUMBER 007NUMÉRO 007007120520222022/05/12 11:05:00House Of CommonsBureau de régie interneBoard of Internal EconomyBOIE144AnthonyRotaHon.Nipissing—Timiskaming//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota (Speaker of the House of Commons): (1100)[Translation]I call this meeting to order.Welcome to meeting number seven of the Board of Internal Economy.[English] We'll start off with item number one, which is the minutes of the previous meetings. Are there any questions or comments on the minutes? Very good.Yes, Mr. Holland.MarkHollandHon.Ajax//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1100)[English]Thank you very much. I appreciate it. Believe me, it's great to be back.Now we'll go to item number two, which is business arising from previous minutes.[Translation]Mrs. DeBellefeuille, go ahead.MarkHollandHon.AjaxClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—Suroît//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1105)[Translation]I think Mr. McDonald can answer the first question.ClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—SuroîtIanMcDonald//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1105)[Translation]I will let Mr. Aubé answer this question.ClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—SuroîtStéphanAubé//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1110)[Translation]Mr. McDonald has the floor.ClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—SuroîtIanMcDonald//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1110)[Translation]You can continue, as no one else wishes to speak. I will take this opportunity to make a suggestion. When we ask questions, we will do a little analysis to see how many people want to speak. I don't want to belabour the point, but I would suggest that everyone limit themselves to about five minutes of speaking time. We will continue, and then we will go back to questions if they haven't been asked.Mrs. DeBellefeuille, I think you are the only one who wants to ask questions. So please continue.ClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—SuroîtClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—Suroît//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1125)[Translation]Are there any more questions about this?Perfect. We will proceed to the third item on the agenda.[English] Number three is “Ratification of a walkaround—address to Parliament”.I just want to make sure that everyone is still in accordance with the decision that was made about the walk-around.Some hon. members: Agreed.Hon. Anthony Rota: Very good. Perfect. We have consensus.Now we'll move on to number four, interim budgets for the special joint committees on the declaration of emergency and on medical assistance in dying.[Translation]Mr. McDonald and Mr. Lemoine, you have the floor.Government expendituresSpecial Joint Committee on Medical Assistance in DyingSpecial Joint Committee on the Declaration of EmergencyClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—SuroîtIanMcDonald//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1125)[Translation]Are there any questions?[English]Go ahead, Mr. Brassard.IanMcDonaldJohnBrassardBarrie—Innisfil//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1125)[English]Now Mr. Julian has a question or a comment.JohnBrassardBarrie—InnisfilPeterJulianNew Westminster—Burnaby//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1125)[English]There's no pun on the hearty, right?PeterJulianNew Westminster—BurnabyPeterJulianNew Westminster—Burnaby//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1125)[English]Thank you.PeterJulianNew Westminster—BurnabyPeterJulianNew Westminster—Burnaby//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1125)[English]Are there any other questions?Are we all in accordance with the recommendation?Some hon. members: Agreed.[Translation]Hon. Anthony Rota: Okay.[English]Very good. It's passed.Now we'll move on to number five. The presenter will be Mr. Jeremy LeBlanc.Go ahead, Mr. LeBlanc.IanMcDonaldJeremyLeBlanc//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1130)[Translation]Do you have any questions?[English] Are there any comments?[Translation]Do you prefer one of the three options?[English]Yes, Mr. Brassard.JeremyLeBlancJohnBrassardBarrie—Innisfil//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1130)[English]Very good.[Translation]Are there any other questions?[English]I think we have eliminated option three; I'm getting consensus.Between options one and two, is there one that is preferred by the group? We have number one and number two.JohnBrassardBarrie—InnisfilJohnBrassardBarrie—Innisfil//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1130)[English]Does anybody want to speak to going one way or the other?Go ahead, Mr. Calkins.JohnBrassardBarrie—InnisfilBlaineCalkinsRed Deer—Lacombe//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1130)[English]Okay.I guess the question is this: Is option three the option that we stay with as the status quo?Go ahead, Mr. MacKinnon.Joint Interparliamentary CouncilBlaineCalkinsRed Deer—LacombeStevenMacKinnonHon.Gatineau//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1130)[English]Do we have consensus for option one? If we don't, then we just default to number three.Yes, Mr. Julian.Joint Interparliamentary CouncilStevenMacKinnonHon.GatineauPeterJulianNew Westminster—Burnaby//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1130)[Translation]Is everyone in favour of the first option?[English]No, we don't have consensus.Mr. Calkins, go ahead.Joint Interparliamentary CouncilPeterJulianNew Westminster—BurnabyBlaineCalkinsRed Deer—Lacombe//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1130)[English]Sure.BlaineCalkinsRed Deer—LacombeBlaineCalkinsRed Deer—Lacombe//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1135)[Translation]Are there any further comments?[English]Are there any questions?I'm trying to figure out where we go from here.We have numbers one and two, or the status quo. With number one, we have one small group with 13 members. Do we let it sit and stay with the status quo?[Translation]Ms. DeBellefeuille, you have the floor.Joint Interparliamentary CouncilBlaineCalkinsRed Deer—LacombeClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—Suroît//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1135)[Translation]Mr. Julian, you have the floor.ClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—SuroîtPeterJulianNew Westminster—Burnaby//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1135)[Translation]Is there a consensus?Mr. MacKinnon, you have the floor.Joint Interparliamentary CouncilPeterJulianNew Westminster—BurnabyStevenMacKinnonHon.Gatineau//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1135)[Translation]Is everyone in favour of option two?[English] We have consent. Very good. Fantastic.Now we'll take a short break and go in camera.[Translation]So we'll be back in about three minutes.[The committee continued in camera].Joint Interparliamentary CouncilStevenMacKinnonHon.Gatineau//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgStart of sitting day1TRANSCRIPTBoard of Internal EconomyNUMBER 0061st SESSION44th PARLIAMENTThursday, March 3, 2022Le jeudi 3 mars 2022Board of Internal EconomyCANADA[Recorded by Electronic Apparatus]TRANSCRIPTMarch 3, 2022CommitteeNUMBER 006NUMBER 006NUMÉRO 006006030320222022/03/03 11:00:00House Of CommonsBureau de régie interneBoard of Internal EconomyBOIE144AnthonyRotaHon.Nipissing—Timiskaming//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota (Speaker of the House of Commons): (1100)[Translation]I call to order the sixth meeting of the Board of Internal Economy of the 44th Parliament.[English] We'll start off with the minutes of the previous meeting. Is everything okay, or do we have any comments on the minutes?[Translation]Everything seems okay, so I will continue.[English]Next is business arising from previous meetings.[Translation]Are there any questions?[English]Go ahead, Mr. Holland.MarkHollandHon.Ajax//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1100)[English]I'll let Monsieur Patrice answer that question.MarkHollandHon.AjaxMichelPatrice//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1100)[English]Very good.[Translation]I now give the floor to Mrs. DeBellefeuille.MarkHollandHon.AjaxClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—Suroît//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1100)[Translation]I had intended for this to be discussed under the item related to the Translation Bureau.ClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—SuroîtClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—Suroît//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1100)[Translation]However, if you wish to talk about it now, you may do so.I feel it would be easier to keep all the subjects together that—ClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—SuroîtClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—Suroît//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1100)[Translation]Perfect. Thank you.We now move to the third item, “Translation Bureau – Resources Utilisation for Simultaneous Interpretation”.[English]Right now I'll hand it over to Lucie Séguin.[Translation]After that, Matthew Ball will have the floor.I don't know if any others would like to present or if they are just going to answer questions.At the last meeting, members had a lot of questions. So I'm wondering, would it be possible to limit question time to five or six minutes. I don't want to limit questions, but I want to make sure that everyone has an opportunity to ask questions.[English]Please be as concise as possible when you're asking your questions. Try to keep to five or six minutes. Then we'll let the next person go, loop around again, and start over, if that's okay. Again, I'll let everyone be their own police officer and control their timing.(1105)[Translation]We begin with Mrs. DeBellefeuille.Translation and interpretation servicesVirtual ParliamentWorkplace health and safetyClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—SuroîtClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—Suroît//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1105)[Translation]For now, you are the only one who wants to speak.ClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—SuroîtClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—Suroît//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1110)[Translation]With your permission, we'll go to Mr. Julian, and then to Mr. Brassard. You'll be able to continue afterwards.ClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—SuroîtClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—Suroît//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1110)[Translation]Mr. Julian, you have the floor.ClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—SuroîtPeterJulianNew Westminster—Burnaby//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1120)[Translation]Mr. Julian, may I interrupt you for a second?PeterJulianNew Westminster—BurnabyPeterJulianNew Westminster—Burnaby//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1120)[Translation]I just want to remind you that other members want to ask questions. I didn't mean to interrupt you, but the time allotted to each speaker is roughly five minutes.You can choose to let someone else speak or continue with your questions.PeterJulianNew Westminster—BurnabyPeterJulianNew Westminster—Burnaby//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1120)[Translation]Mr. Aubé, you have the floor.LucieSéguinStéphanAubé//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1120)[Translation]We're going to continue.[English] We'll go to Mr. Brassard, followed by Mr. MacKinnon.[Translation]Then we'll go to Mrs. DeBellefeuille, and Mr. Julian can ask more questions if he wants. I know this is a very important topic for everyone, and we want to give everyone a chance to ask questions.Thank you for your co‑operation.[English]Go ahead, Mr. Brassard.StéphanAubéJohnBrassardBarrie—Innisfil//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1125)[English]If I can interrupt—JohnBrassardBarrie—InnisfilPeterJulianNew Westminster—Burnaby//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1125)[English]Order. If I can have your attention, please, we have some people who are being very patient with us here—PeterJulianNew Westminster—BurnabyJohnBrassardBarrie—Innisfil//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1125)[English]—so maybe we can take this and have a separate item altogether.JohnBrassardBarrie—InnisfilJohnBrassardBarrie—Innisfil//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1125)[English]That might be something we want to look at, but right now, Madame Séguin and Matthew Ball are here to answer our questions. We'll concentrate on them and then come back to this one. We can have our own discussions later.Mr. Brassard, please continue.COVID-19PandemicProtestsJohnBrassardBarrie—InnisfilJohnBrassardBarrie—Innisfil//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1130)[English]If I could interrupt, I believe Monsieur Patrice would like to add something on that. Maybe he has more of the technical side of it.Translation and interpretation servicesVirtual ParliamentWorkplace health and safetyJohnBrassardBarrie—InnisfilMichelPatrice//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1130)[English]Now we'll go to Mr. MacKinnon. [Translation]He will be followed by Mrs. DeBellefeuille.[English]Then we'll go to Mr. Julian, and then back to Mr. Brassard. Oh, we have Mr. Calkins after Mr. MacKinnon. Go ahead, Mr. MacKinnon. JohnBrassardBarrie—InnisfilStevenMacKinnonHon.Gatineau//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1140)[Translation]Yes, Mr. Aubé.I will then give the floor to the next questioner, so that everyone can ask questions.Go ahead, Mr. Aubé.StéphanAubéStéphanAubé//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1140)[English] We'll continue with Mr. Calkins, followed by Madame DeBellefeuille and Mr. Julian, and then we'll go back to Mr. Brassard. Go ahead, Mr. Calkins.StevenMacKinnonHon.GatineauBlaineCalkinsRed Deer—Lacombe//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1150)[English]Very good. Thank you, Mr. Calkins.To all of the people who've asked questions, thank you for sticking to about five minutes.[Translation]Mrs. DeBellefeuille will now take the floor, followed by Mr. Julian.[English]Then we will go to Mr. Brassard. No? You're good? Okay.[Translation]Go ahead, Mrs. DeBellefeuille.BlaineCalkinsRed Deer—LacombeClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—Suroît//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1150)[Translation]Ms. Séguin and Mr. Aubé, would you like to comment?You are signalling that you would not.Mr. Julian will now take the floor. And then I think we will be done.Mr. Julian, go ahead.ClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—SuroîtPeterJulianNew Westminster—Burnaby//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1155)[Translation]The report is in the binder.Translation and interpretation servicesVirtual ParliamentWorkplace health and safetyPeterJulianNew Westminster—BurnabyPeterJulianNew Westminster—Burnaby//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1155)[Translation]We will make sure to get a copy to you.Translation and interpretation servicesVirtual ParliamentWorkplace health and safetyPeterJulianNew Westminster—BurnabyPeterJulianNew Westminster—Burnaby//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1155)[Translation]Mr. Aubé, could you answer this question?PeterJulianNew Westminster—BurnabyStéphanAubé//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1200)[Translation]We'll move on to the next item on the agenda.It's the letter that we received from the International Association of Conference Interpreters and that you can find in our binder. It invites us to come here or to submit a document.I would like to suggest that we ask for a document. That way, the information provided can prepare us for a visit if we deem it necessary.[English]What I'd like to do is ask that the AIIC submit the submission that they talked of— Mr. Michel Patrice: And the union.Hon. Anthony Rota: —and the union. I'm sorry. We'll get that from ACEP as well. With that extra information, we can see where we go from there. I think that would be a fair way to proceed. From what I'm hearing and from what I'm feeling, I don't think there's any question that we want what's best for our interpreters. We don't want their health to go down a road that is going to hurt them or be something that they'll regret later in life. With that extra information, hopefully, we'll be able to answer some questions and improve their conditions.Thank you to both Ms. Séguin and Mr. Ball for appearing.Now we'll go on to the fourth item, which is the quarterly financial report for the third quarter of 2021. Monsieur St. George and Madame Valiquette will be presenting.I'm sorry. I thanked our visitors, but I didn't thank our technical people, Mr. McDonald and Monsieur Aubé, for being with us. You've been very helpful. Thank you.[Translation]Mr. St George, you have the floor.Translation and interpretation servicesVirtual ParliamentWorkplace health and safetyPeterJulianNew Westminster—BurnabyPaulSt George//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1205)[English]Are there any questions?Go ahead, Mr. Brassard. PaulSt GeorgeJohnBrassardBarrie—Innisfil//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1210)[English]Are there any other questions for Monsieur St George?Then we'll move on to item number five, I believe.Monsieur St George, I'll let you continue. JohnBrassardBarrie—InnisfilPaulSt George//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1210)[English]Are there any questions or comments?[Translation]Mrs. DeBellefeuille, you have the floor.PaulSt GeorgeClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—Suroît//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1215)[English] Mr. Calkins, we will go to you next.ClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—SuroîtBlaineCalkinsRed Deer—Lacombe//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1215)[Translation]Mr. St George, you have the floor.BlaineCalkinsRed Deer—LacombePaulSt George//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1220)[Translation]Mrs. DeBellefeuille, this question is for you.BlaineCalkinsRed Deer—LacombeClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—Suroît//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1220)[Translation]The discussion concerns your proposal. I wanted to wait until everyone had finished asking their questions. However, some of the questions are about your two proposals. The floor is yours.ClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—SuroîtClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—Suroît//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1220)[Translation]That's fine. Are there any comments?[English]Mr. Brassard has a comment or a question. ClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—SuroîtJohnBrassardBarrie—Innisfil//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1225)[English]Seeing no other questions, I guess we have three options now. We have two that were offered by Madame DeBellefeuille and one that was offered by Mr. St George, the recommendation that we have in our package. How do we want to start this? Do we want to start with the new proposals and then work our way back, or do we want to start with the recommendation that was made initially? Is that a yes, Mr. Julian?AdvertisingCOVID-19Government expendituresPandemicJohnBrassardBarrie—InnisfilPeterJulianNew Westminster—Burnaby//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1225)[English]Okay. We'll start with the recommendation that was made by Mr. St George. Do we have acceptance of this recommendation?[Translation]Mrs. DeBellefeuille is opposed to this proposal. We don't have unanimous consent.We'll move on to the next proposal, which is Mrs. DeBellefeuille's proposal.[English] That's to extend to March 29, 2023.[Translation] Does this work for everyone?Mr. Julian, do you want to add anything?AdvertisingCOVID-19Government expendituresPandemicPeterJulianNew Westminster—BurnabyPeterJulianNew Westminster—Burnaby//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1225)[Translation]She wants this measure to continue until March 29, 2023, instead of ending in June, because that's in the middle of a fiscal year.Is that right, Mrs. DeBellefeuille? I want to make sure that I'm providing the correct information.AdvertisingCOVID-19Government expendituresPandemicPeterJulianNew Westminster—BurnabyClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—Suroît//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1225)[Translation]Do we agree with Mrs. DeBellefeuille's proposal?AdvertisingCOVID-19Government expendituresPandemicClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—SuroîtPeterJulianNew Westminster—Burnaby//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1225)[Translation]No?AdvertisingCOVID-19Government expendituresPandemicPeterJulianNew Westminster—BurnabyPeterJulianNew Westminster—Burnaby//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1225)[Translation]Me neither. Mrs. DeBellefeuille, I'll let you explain your proposal again so that we understand exactly what you mean. I gather that the suggestion was accepted and that it would apply until March 29. Is that right?AdvertisingCOVID-19Government expendituresPandemicClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—SuroîtPeterJulianNew Westminster—Burnaby//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1225)[Translation]Okay.PeterJulianNew Westminster—BurnabyClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—Suroît//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1225)[Translation]Go ahead, because you'll do it better than I could.AdvertisingCOVID-19Government expendituresPandemicClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—SuroîtClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—Suroît//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1230)[Translation]Do we agree with this?Since I don't hear any objections, the decision is made.For the next item, the committee will continue in camera.I'll suspend the meeting for a few minutes. [Proceedings continue in camera]PeterJulianNew Westminster—Burnaby//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgStart of sitting day1TRANSCRIPTBoard of Internal EconomyNUMBER 0051st SESSION44th PARLIAMENTThursday, February 17, 2022Le jeudi 17 février 2022Board of Internal EconomyCANADA[Recorded by Electronic Apparatus]TRANSCRIPTFebruary 17, 2022CommitteeNUMBER 005NUMBER 005NUMÉRO 005005170220222022/02/17 11:05:00House Of CommonsBureau de régie interneBoard of Internal EconomyBOIE144AnthonyRotaHon.Nipissing—Timiskaming//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota (Speaker of the House of Commons): (1100)[English] I call this meeting to order.Welcome to meeting number five.[Translation]This is February 17, 2022. The meeting is televised.[English]The first thing we're going to take care of is minutes of the previous meetings.Is there anything that anyone wants to bring up?[Translation]So we have a consensus. We can proceed.Mr. Julian, you have the floor.PeterJulianNew Westminster—Burnaby//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1100)[Translation]Do we have everyone's agreement to go in camera?All right. We'll take three minutes to go in camera.As soon as we are ready, the meeting will resume in camera.[English]We'll start in camera in a few seconds, as soon as we're ready. [Proceedings continue in camera](1105)(1150)PeterJulianNew Westminster—BurnabyAnthonyRotaHon.Nipissing—Timiskaming//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1145)[Translation]We are ready to resume the meeting.We now move to the second item on the agenda, which is business arising from the previous meeting.[English] Does anyone have anything from the previous meeting?[Translation]Ms. Bellefeuille, you have the floor.AnthonyRotaHon.Nipissing—TimiskamingClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—Suroît//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1200)[Translation]Thank you, Ms. DeBellefeuille.The three measures that you have asked for are very reasonable and very important to the committee process. In fact, they are rigorously applied in the House. So there isl'affiliation doit être mise à jour no reason why they should not be applied to committees.I noticed that the clerk was taking a lot of notes. We will see that you get answers and several solutions as soon as possible.Are there any other comments?I'll give the floor to Mr. MacKinnon, to be followed by Mr. Julian.Translation and interpretation servicesVirtual ParliamentWorkplace health and safetyClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—SuroîtStevenMacKinnonHon.Gatineau//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1200)[Translation]Thank you, Mr. MacKinnon.We will now continue with Mr. Julian, Mr. Calkins and Mr. LeBlanc.Mr. Julian, you have the floor.StevenMacKinnonHon.GatineauPeterJulianNew Westminster—Burnaby//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1205)[English] We'll now go to Mr. Calkins.PeterJulianNew Westminster—BurnabyBlaineCalkinsRed Deer—Lacombe//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1210)[English]Mr. LeBlanc, you have the floor.BlaineCalkinsRed Deer—LacombeDominicLeBlancHon.Beauséjour//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1210)[Translation]Ms. DeBellefeuille, you have the floor.DominicLeBlancHon.BeauséjourClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—Suroît//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1210)[Translation]Mr. McDonald, the floor is yours.ClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—SuroîtIanMcDonald//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1215)[English] Mr. Brassard, please go ahead.ClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—SuroîtJohnBrassardBarrie—Innisfil//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1215)[English]Mr. McDonald, would you be able to answer that, or would you be able to come back with an answer?JohnBrassardBarrie—InnisfilIanMcDonald//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1215)[English]Very good.I'm not seeing any more questions. I would just point out to all parties that perhaps they want to ask their members to check their emails. I sent out an email yesterday, it just so happens, on best practices when using virtual meetings. It's just to highlight that they would want to check that out and follow that, and make sure they're following that to a tee, because any deviation from that really makes it difficult for people.Again, it comes down to this. I know we take things for granted sometimes. We say, “Oh well, I'm caught in my car. I'll just use my phone.” It will cause problems for someone who is interpreting, so please follow those guidelines for those best practices.I realize that sometimes it can't be done. We just had one case where one of the members could not use the headset, and they made arrangements. What ended up happening was they got him a microphone and speakers, and everything worked well, but the microphone wasn't working well enough for the interpreters.A simple solution would have been getting the speakers working other than in the headset, and he'd wear the headset and use the microphone on the headset. This was not working. The speakers were working, but the microphone wasn't, so sometimes something simple like that really covers that area.If there are any problems, please contact our technical people, because they have been very diligent and trying their best. Believe me, they are bending over backwards. I have to compliment our technical team for trying to make it so the interpreters do well.I know what it's like to try to translate. I've done some in the past, nothing to the extent of what they're doing, and they're keeping up with what they're doing.[Translation]It's not always easy to listen to what is being said and then interpret into another language. In fact, it's very difficult, and we really appreciate the efforts undertaken by interpreters to allow Parliament to continue its work.(1220)We will now move on to the third item, entitled translation bureau - resources utilization for simultaneous interpretation.Our witnesses today are Ms. Lucie Séguin and Mr. Matthew Ball.[English]We'll let them get set up. [Translation]Ms. Séguin will start.You have the floor, Ms. Séguin.Translation and interpretation servicesVirtual ParliamentWorkplace health and safetyJohnBrassardBarrie—InnisfilLucieSéguin//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1225)[Translation]Mr. MacKinnon, you have the floor.Then it will be Mrs. DeBellefeuille's turn.[English]Then we'll go to Mr. Brassard and Mr. Julian.LucieSéguinStevenMacKinnonHon.Gatineau//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1240)[Translation]I would like a few points clarified.You talked about 3 to 5 graduates annually. Is that in the Ottawa region or nationally?Where do those graduates come from?StaffingTranslation and interpretation servicesVirtual ParliamentWorkplace health and safetyStevenMacKinnonHon.GatineauLucieSéguin//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1240)[Translation]Thank you very much for that clarification.We will now continue with Mrs. DeBellefeuille, followed by Mr. Brassard.[English]We will then go to Mr. Julian.Madame DeBellefeuille, please go ahead.MatthewBallClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—Suroît//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1255)[Translation]I have to jump in quickly, because we only have five minutes left. Do we want to extend the meeting, since this is a very important subject and we have other questions to ask?It appears that we do not. I know that Mrs. DeBellefeuille scolded Mr. MacKinnon and it's perhaps something that we should discuss further. I know that this subject interests us greatly, so perhaps we should limit questions to 10 minutes, for example, and allow people to speak once more a little later. However, I am going to let Mrs. DeBellefeuille finish her questions and then we will try to hear from the two other presenters.Translation and interpretation servicesVirtual ParliamentWorkplace health and safetyLucieSéguinClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—Suroît//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1255)[Translation]It's now 1:00 p.m. I'd like to ask the hon. members if they agree to invite Ms. Séguin and Mr. Ball back to the next meeting. Indeed, there is a great deal of interest in this subject and a lot of questions. I, myself, have questions to ask. We have about 30 seconds left, so I'm going to take advantage of the chair's privilege to ask a quick question.There have apparently been 230 incidents here in Parliament. How many interpreters do we have? That seems like a lot for such a small team.Translation and interpretation servicesVirtual ParliamentWorkplace health and safetyLucieSéguinLucieSéguin//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1300)[Translation]So there haven't been 230 incidents in Parliament. How many incidents took place in Parliament?Translation and interpretation servicesVirtual ParliamentWorkplace health and safetyLucieSéguinLucieSéguin//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1300)[Translation]So we're talking about 14 incidents, not 230. I'm sorry if I sound surprised, but I am.Translation and interpretation servicesVirtual ParliamentWorkplace health and safetyMatthewBallMatthewBall//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1300)[Translation]We can discuss this further at the next meeting.I will adjourn the meeting, but first I want to thank the witnesses and the hon. members for their patience.At the next meeting, we'll pick up the discussion where we left it. I'd like to make a suggestion to the hon. members, and I would ask them to think about it. I like to make sure everyone gets a chance to speak.[English] As well, everybody can ask their questions, but perhaps we should look at having 10-minute sessions and maybe come back to it once we come back again. This way everybody gets a chance, and we can get things done that way.[Translation]Thank you for your patience.The meeting is adjourned.MatthewBall//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgDaily adjournmentAnthonyRotaHon.Nipissing—Timiskaming//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgStart of sitting day1TRANSCRIPTBoard of Internal EconomyNUMBER 0041st SESSION44th PARLIAMENTThursday, February 10, 2022Le jeudi 10 février 2022Board of Internal EconomyCANADA[Recorded by Electronic Apparatus]TRANSCRIPTFebruary 10, 2022CommitteeNUMBER 004NUMBER 004NUMÉRO 004004100220222022/02/10 11:05:00House Of CommonsBureau de régie interneBoard of Internal EconomyBOIE144AnthonyRotaHon.Nipissing—Timiskaming//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota (Speaker of the House of Commons): (1100)[English]Good morning.I want to welcome everyone to meeting number four of the Board of Internal Economy.I want to welcome two gentlemen here—Mr. Calkins and Mr. Brassard—who are joining us as new members. Welcome. We look forward to working together.I understand that Mr. Calkins will be joining Mr. MacKinnon as our official voice of this committee. It's a great responsibility. I'm sure the two of you will work well together and go from there.Mr. Julian, before going to the minutes of the previous meeting, do you have a point of order or a request to make?PeterJulianNew Westminster—Burnaby//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1105)[Translation]Do I have unanimous consent for that?Did you want to comment, Mrs. DeBellefeuille? Go ahead.PeterJulianNew Westminster—BurnabyClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—Suroît//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1105)[Translation]That is duly noted.Before the committee goes in camera, I want to deal with item No. 1, minutes of previous meeting. Is everyone okay with the minutes? Are there any changes that need to be made?Seeing that no one has any, we will continue.We'll take a quick break to move in camera.[Proceedings continue in camera](1105)(1150)[Public proceedings resume]ClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—SuroîtAnthonyRotaHon.Nipissing—Timiskaming//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1250)[Translation]I was asked to start with items 3, 4 and 5.I think we can deal with item 5 quickly.Are there any comments on item 5, the interim budget for the Special Committee on Afghanistan?Is everyone in agreement?[English] Mr. Julian, are you okay with that?Government expendituresSpecial Committee on AfghanistanAnthonyRotaHon.Nipissing—TimiskamingPeterJulianNew Westminster—Burnaby//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1250)[Translation]Everyone agrees. Great.Ratification of the two decisions that were already made—Did you want to comment, Mr. MacKinnon?COVID-19Health screeningPandemicWorkplace health and safetyPeterJulianNew Westminster—BurnabyStevenMacKinnonHon.Gatineau//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1250)[Translation]Yes, Mrs. DeBellefeuille. We can hear you.ClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—SuroîtClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—Suroît//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1250)[Translation]No, we are no longer in camera.ClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—SuroîtClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—Suroît//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1255)[Translation]Great.We will now move on to item No. 3.Mr. Patrice will be speaking to that item. Go ahead.COVID-19PandemicWorkplace health and safetyClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—SuroîtMichelPatrice//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1255)[Translation]—makes it a moot point.COVID-19PandemicWorkplace health and safetyMichelPatriceMichelPatrice//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1255)[Translation]Great.COVID-19PandemicWorkplace health and safetyMichelPatriceMichelPatrice//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1255)[Translation]Do I need the committee's consent?[English]We have your consent for number three, even though we did pass something that overrules it. It was a little bit confusing there. I thought it was a moot point.COVID-19PandemicWorkplace health and safetyMichelPatriceClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—Suroît//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1255)[Translation]It's more about the procedure. We want to make sure we've ratified what we decided previously.COVID-19PandemicWorkplace health and safetyClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—SuroîtClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—Suroît//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1255)[Translation]There are no consequences to our decision.COVID-19PandemicWorkplace health and safetyClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—SuroîtClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—Suroît//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1255)[Translation]I think that's a good idea, because the interpreters will be here next week to give a presentation, and the two issues are related. Are you okay if we add them to the agenda for our next meeting?I see we have agreement, so that's what we'll do. Great.Thank you for your patience, Mrs. DeBellefeuille.[English] Number two is business arising from the previous meetings. I think we've done that. We have covered everything. Thank you very much.The meeting is adjourned.Translation and interpretation servicesVirtual ParliamentClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—Suroît//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgDaily adjournmentAnthonyRotaHon.Nipissing—Timiskaming//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgStart of sitting day1TRANSCRIPTBoard of Internal EconomyNUMBER 0031st SESSION44th PARLIAMENTThursday, December 16, 2021Le jeudi 16 décembre 2021Board of Internal EconomyCANADA[Recorded by Electronic Apparatus]TRANSCRIPTDecember 16, 2021CommitteeNUMBER 003NUMBER 003NUMÉRO 003003161220212021/12/16 11:05:00House Of CommonsBureau de régie interneBoard of Internal EconomyBOIE144AnthonyRotaHon.Nipissing—Timiskaming//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota (Speaker of the House of Commons): (1100)[English] Welcome to the third meeting of the 44th Parliament.[Translation]We will now go to the first item on the agenda, minutes of previous meetings.Are there any questions?[English]There are no points to bring up. Seeing none, we'll move on to the second item: business arising from the previous meetings.[Translation]Does anyone wish to comment on business arising from the previous meeting?Since we have no comments, we will move on to the third item, the proposed 2022‑23 main estimates.The floor is yours, Mr. St George.PaulSt George//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1105)[English]Are there any questions or comments?Mr. Julian, I believe you have a comment.PaulSt GeorgePeterJulianNew Westminster—Burnaby//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1105)[Translation]If everyone is in agreement, we will now proceed with the second part of the presentation.Mr. St George, please continue.PeterJulianNew Westminster—BurnabyPaulSt George//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1110)[English]Okay. I will go to the questions. Mr. Julian, you're at the top of the list. PaulSt GeorgePeterJulianNew Westminster—Burnaby//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1110)[Translation]Are there any other questions or comments?[English]We have two decisions to make.[Translation]The first one pertains to the main estimates.Is everyone in agreement?Some hon. members: Agreed.Government expendituresMain estimates 2022-2023PaulSt GeorgeAnthonyRotaHon.Nipissing—Timiskaming//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1110)[Translation]The second pertains to the proposed changes to the description and presentation of statutory authorities.Is everyone in agreement?Some hon. members: Agreed.Government expendituresMain estimates 2022-2023AnthonyRotaHon.Nipissing—TimiskamingAnthonyRotaHon.Nipissing—Timiskaming//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1110)[Translation]Excellent.We will now go in camera.[Proceedings continue in camera]AnthonyRotaHon.Nipissing—Timiskaming//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgStart of sitting day1TRANSCRIPTBoard of Internal EconomyNUMBER 0021st SESSION44th PARLIAMENTThursday, December 9, 2021Le jeudi 9 décembre 2021Board of Internal EconomyCANADA[Recorded by Electronic Apparatus]TRANSCRIPTDecember 9, 2021CommitteeNUMBER 002NUMBER 002NUMÉRO 002002091220212021/12/09 11:00:00House Of CommonsBureau de régie interneBoard of Internal EconomyBOIE144AnthonyRotaHon.Nipissing—Timiskaming//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota (Speaker of the House of Commons): (1100)[Translation]Good morning. Welcome to the second meeting of the Board of Internal Economy of the 44th Parliament.[English] We'll start off with item number one, minutes of the previous meeting. Are there any comments or questions on those? Everything's clear.We'll go on to item number two. Is there any business arising from the previous minutes? Very good.Now we're on number three, supporting increased committee activity levels. We'll go to Mr. McDonald to give us a presentation.IanMcDonald//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1105)[English]We'll start with Mr. Holland, followed by Mr. MacKinnon.Mr. Holland, go ahead.IanMcDonaldMarkHollandHon.Ajax//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1105)[English]We'll go to Mr. MacKinnon.[Translation]We'll hear from Mr. Deltell after that.Go ahead, Mr. MacKinnon.MarkHollandHon.AjaxStevenMacKinnonHon.Gatineau//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1110)[Translation]Thank you.We will now go to Mr. Deltell, followed by Mr. Richards, Mrs. DeBellefeuille and Mr. Julian.Go ahead, Mr. Deltell.StevenMacKinnonHon.GatineauGérardDeltellLouis-Saint-Laurent//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1110)[Translation]Thank you, Mr. Deltell.We now go to Mr. Richards. After that, we will go to Mrs. DeBellefeuille, followed by Mr. Julian.You may go ahead, Mr. Richards.GérardDeltellLouis-Saint-LaurentBlakeRichardsBanff—Airdrie//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1115)[English] I believe Mr. Patrice would like to add to that.BlakeRichardsBanff—AirdrieMichelPatrice//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1120)[English]Okay, very good.[Translation]We now move on to Mrs. DeBellefeuille. Then, it will be Mr. Julian's turn.[English]Then we will go over to Mr. Holland.[Translation]Go ahead, Mrs. DeBellefeuille.BlakeRichardsBanff—AirdrieClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—Suroît//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1125)[Translation]Thank you, Mrs. DeBellefeuille.We continue with Mr. Julian, followed by Mr. Holland.You may go ahead, Mr. Julian.ClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—SuroîtPeterJulianNew Westminster—Burnaby//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1125)[Translation]You have the floor, Mr. McDonald.PeterJulianNew Westminster—BurnabyIanMcDonald//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1130)[Translation]Mr. Patrice, you may go ahead.IanMcDonaldMichelPatrice//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1130)[English]Go ahead, Mr. Richards.BlakeRichardsBanff—AirdrieBlakeRichardsBanff—Airdrie//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1130)[English] I can accuse you of lots of things, but talking too fast is not one of them. MichelPatricePeterJulianNew Westminster—Burnaby//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1130)[English]Wait one minute. No, there was nothing on there.PeterJulianNew Westminster—BurnabyMichelPatrice//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1130)[English]I will ask everyone to pause for a second. We will get started as soon as that gets fixed.(1130)(1130)MichelPatriceAnthonyRotaHon.Nipissing—Timiskaming//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1130)[Translation]The problem with the interpretation is now fixed.Carry on, Mr. Julian.AnthonyRotaHon.Nipissing—TimiskamingPeterJulianNew Westminster—Burnaby//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1130)[Translation]Go ahead, Mr. Janse.PeterJulianNew Westminster—BurnabyEricJanse//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1135)[English]Thank you.We'll go to Mr. Holland, who will be followed by Mr. Richards.Mr. Holland, go ahead.PeterJulianNew Westminster—BurnabyMarkHollandHon.Ajax//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1140)[English] Very good.We'll proceed to Mr. Richards, followed by Monsieur LeBlanc.Mr. Richards, go ahead.MarkHollandHon.AjaxBlakeRichardsBanff—Airdrie//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1140)[English]I believe Monsieur Patrice will take that question.BlakeRichardsBanff—AirdrieMichelPatrice//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1145)[English]I believe Mr. Robert would like to comment on this as well.BlakeRichardsBanff—AirdrieBlakeRichardsBanff—Airdrie//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1145)[English]Mr. Richards, go ahead.CharlesRobertBlakeRichardsBanff—Airdrie//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1150)[English]We'll go to Mr. McDonald.BlakeRichardsBanff—AirdrieIanMcDonald//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1155)[English]I believe Monsieur Patrice has a comment on that.StaffingBlakeRichardsBanff—AirdrieMichelPatrice//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1155)[English]Very good. Now we'll go to Mr. LeBlanc. IanMcDonaldDominicLeBlancHon.Beauséjour//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1155)[English]I don't see any more comments.Do we have consent to proceed with the recommendation?Parliamentary staffStaffingDominicLeBlancHon.BeauséjourBlakeRichardsBanff—Airdrie//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1155)[English]Are we good?Some hon. members: Agreed.Hon. Anthony Rota: Okay. We'll move on. [Translation]That brings us to the fourth item on the agenda: confirmation of the mandate and membership of the Long-Term Vision and Plan, or LTVP, Working Group.Go ahead, Mr. Patrice.Parliament Buildings Renovation ProjectParliamentary precinctParliamentary staffStaffingBlakeRichardsBanff—AirdrieMichelPatrice//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1200)[Translation]Do we have any questions or comments?Go ahead, Mr. MacKinnon.MichelPatriceStevenMacKinnonHon.Gatineau//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1200)[Translation]Are there any further questions or comments?Is everyone in agreement?Some hon. members: Agreed.Parliament Buildings Renovation ProjectParliamentary precinctStevenMacKinnonHon.GatineauAnthonyRotaHon.Nipissing—Timiskaming//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1200)[Translation]That brings us to item five on the agenda. Before we begin the discussion, I would ask that we move in camera.[English]I want to remind everyone that we'll take a couple of minutes before it gets shifted over. Maybe we'll take three minutes. It's noon right now. At 12:03, we will proceed.[Proceedings continue in camera]AnthonyRotaHon.Nipissing—Timiskaming//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgStart of sitting day1TRANSCRIPTBoard of Internal EconomyNUMBER 0011st SESSION44th PARLIAMENTThursday, December 2, 2021Le jeudi 2 décembre 2021Board of Internal EconomyCANADA[Recorded by Electronic Apparatus]TRANSCRIPTDecember 2, 2021CommitteeNUMBER 001NUMBER 001NUMÉRO 001001021220212021/12/02 11:05:00House Of CommonsBureau de régie interneBoard of Internal EconomyBOIE144AnthonyRotaHon.Nipissing—Timiskaming//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota (Speaker of the House of Commons): (1100)[Translation]Welcome to the first meeting of the Board of Internal Economy of the 44th Parliament. Some new people are joining us this morning.First, we have Mr. Holland, who will be here in a few moments.[English]Ms. Sahota is joining as well, in her case remotely.Also, Steven MacKinnon hopefully will be here shortly. Welcome to the Board of Internal Economy.We will go on to item number one, the minutes of the previous meeting. [Translation]Is everything in order? Do you approve the minutes?[English]Mr. Richards.BlakeRichardsBanff—Airdrie//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1100)[English]Okay.(1105)[Translation]Mr. Patrice, can you answer that?BlakeRichardsBanff—AirdrieMichelPatrice//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1105)[English]Are there any other comments?[Translation]In that case, we will move to the second item.[English]Next is business arising from previous meetings.We have Madame DeBellefeuille.BlakeRichardsBanff—AirdrieClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—Suroît//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1105)[Translation]Mr. Aubé, can you answer that question?ClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—SuroîtStéphaneAubé//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1110)[Translation]Agreed. No problem. We will come back with a report on the interpreters, with a focus on those issues.Mr. Julian, you have the floor.StaffingTranslation and interpretation servicesVirtual ParliamentClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—SuroîtPeterJulianNew Westminster—Burnaby//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1110)[Translation]That's great. Thank you very much.[English] Mr. Richards.PeterJulianNew Westminster—BurnabyBlakeRichardsBanff—Airdrie//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1110)[English]We'll get Mr. McDonald to answer this question.BlakeRichardsBanff—AirdrieIanMcDonald//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1115)[English]I'm not sure who will answer that. Will it be Mr. Aubé or Mr. McDonald?BlakeRichardsBanff—AirdrieIanMcDonald//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1115)[English] Okay, now we'll proceed to Mr. Holland.BlakeRichardsBanff—AirdrieMarkHollandHon.Ajax//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1120)[English]Very good.Are there any other comments on item number 2?Okay, we'll proceed to item number 3, the ratification of the walkarounds. We have four items here. The decisions have already been made. They went around. We just need the ratification.Do we have consent on that?Some hon. members: Agreed.Hon. Anthony Rota: Everybody is in agreement.Okay, we'll move on to item number 4, supporting committee operations.We'll go back to Mr. McDonald. I'll let you take it from here. COVID-19PandemicWorkplace health and safetyMarkHollandHon.AjaxIanMcDonald//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1125)[English]Very good, and we have a question from Mr. MacKinnon. StéphaneAubéStevenMacKinnonHon.Gatineau//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1125)[Translation]I think that Mr. Aubé is able to answer that question.StevenMacKinnonHon.GatineauStéphaneAubé//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1125)[Translation]Mr. Aubé, you have the floor.StevenMacKinnonHon.GatineauStéphaneAubé//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1125)[English]Now we'll go on to Mr. Richards, who will be followed by Mr. Julian and then Madame DeBellefeuille. StéphaneAubéBlakeRichardsBanff—Airdrie//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1125)[Translation]Do you want to reply, Mr. Aubé?BlakeRichardsBanff—AirdrieStéphaneAubé//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1135)[English]That question will go to Mr. MacDonald.BlakeRichardsBanff—AirdrieIanMcDonald//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1135)[English]Now we'll go on to Mr. Julian, followed by Madame DeBellefeuille.Mr. Julian.IanMcDonaldPeterJulianNew Westminster—Burnaby//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1135)[Translation]Mr. Patrice, you have the floor.PeterJulianNew Westminster—BurnabyMichelPatrice//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1140)[Translation]Mr. Patrice, you have the floor.PeterJulianNew Westminster—BurnabyMichelPatrice//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1140)[Translation]Mrs. DeBellefeuille, you have the floor.MichelPatriceClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—Suroît//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1140)[Translation]I'm not sure who the best person to answer that is.[English] Mr. McDonald, I'll let you answer that one. ClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—SuroîtIanMcDonald//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1145)[English]Mr. Richards, do you have a question?ClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—SuroîtBlakeRichardsBanff—Airdrie//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1145)[Translation]Mr. Patrice, please go ahead.BlakeRichardsBanff—AirdrieMichelPatrice//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1150)[English]I believe that Ms. Sahota has a question. MichelPatriceRubySahotaBrampton North//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1150)[English]Very good.[Translation]Mr. Patrice, over to you.RubySahotaBrampton NorthMichelPatrice//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1150)[English]If there are no more questions, then I take it we have consensus.Do we have consensus for the recommendation?[Translation]Would you like me to read it?[English]Are we not going to pass this recommendation and wait for additional information? That's the way I understand—Parliamentary staffStaffingVirtual ParliamentMichelPatriceBlakeRichardsBanff—Airdrie//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1150)[English]That's of the whole...? Okay.[Translation]Mrs. DeBellefeuille, did you have something to say? No? All right.That's it, then. We'll wait—BlakeRichardsBanff—AirdrieBlakeRichardsBanff—Airdrie//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1150)[English] I want to make sure I understand this.We're approving the recommendation that's being made—Parliamentary staffStaffingVirtual ParliamentBlakeRichardsBanff—AirdrieMichelPatrice//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1155)[English]Okay. Very good.Is everybody in agreement with that? Good. Perfect.We'll go on to item number 5.[Translation]It's a review of the Members of the House of Commons Workplace Harassment and Violence Prevention Policy and related procedures.Our presenters today are Ms. Laframboise and Ms. Daigle.Ms. Laframboise, please go ahead.Parliamentary staffStaffingVirtual ParliamentMichelPatriceMichelleLaframboise//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1155)[Translation]Does anyone have questions or comments?Mr. Holland, you may go ahead.MichelleLaframboiseMarkHollandHon.Ajax//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1205)[Translation]Mrs. DeBellefeuille, the floor is yours.MarkHollandHon.AjaxClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—Suroît//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1205)[English] Go ahead, Mr. Richards.ClaudeDeBellefeuilleSalaberry—SuroîtBlakeRichardsBanff—Airdrie//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1215)[English]We'll go now to Mr. Julian.Mr. Julian.BlakeRichardsBanff—AirdriePeterJulianNew Westminster—Burnaby//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1220)[English]Are there questions or comments?I believe we have consensus on the recommendation in the conclusion of this report. Right now we'll proceed to item number six, the quarterly financial reports for the second quarter of 2021-22 and revised 2021-22 supplementary estimates (B).Mr. St George, our financial officer, will be proceeding. HarassmentMembers of the House of Commons Workplace Harassment and Violence Prevention PolicyMichelleLaframboisePaulSt George//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1225)[English]Are there any questions?Mr. Holland.PaulSt GeorgeMarkHollandHon.Ajax//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1225)[English]Are there any other questions or comments? Okay. We'll proceed to number seven.[Translation]The audited financial statements for 2020‑21.We turn once again to Mr. St George.COVID-19Government expendituresPandemicQuarterly Financial Report for the Second Quarter of 2021-2022Supplementary estimates (B) 2020-2021MarkHollandHon.AjaxPaulSt George//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1230)[English]Very good. I want to thank you, Mr. St George, Mr. Fernandez, Mr. Newman and Ms. Racine.I understand that it is a normal and good governance practice for independent auditors to have a discussion in camera with board members, without management present, regarding the preparation of the year-end audited financial statements. I would therefore like to propose to the board members that we hold a short in camera session without House administration officials to allow the board members to have this discussion.Do I have the acceptance of the members to proceed in camera?Go ahead, Mr. Richards.Financial statementsHouse of CommonsAndrewNewmanBlakeRichardsBanff—Airdrie//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1230)[English]I just want to make sure I have a consensus. I don't want us to do anything we'll regret later. That's why—BlakeRichardsBanff—AirdrieBlakeRichardsBanff—Airdrie//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1230)[English]Okay. I'll trust your confidence, then. Go ahead.BlakeRichardsBanff—AirdrieBlakeRichardsBanff—Airdrie//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1235)[English]Very good. We will proceed to go in camera. Do I have the acceptance of members to proceed in camera?Some hon. members: Agreed.BlakeRichardsBanff—AirdrieAnthonyRotaHon.Nipissing—Timiskaming//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/25452AnthonyRotaHon.Anthony-RotaNipissing—TimiskamingLiberal CaucusOntario//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/44/RotaAnthony_Lib.jpgInterventionHon. Anthony Rota: (1235)[English]Very good.[Translation]We will now break for a few minutes so that the committee can move in camera.I will now ask House Administration staff to leave the room. When our discussion is over, we will let House Administration staff know that they can rejoin the meeting. Those participating online will be placed in a virtual waiting room and re-admitted to the virtual meeting at the appropriate time.Thank you.[Proceedings continue in camera]AnthonyRotaHon.Nipissing—TimiskamingINTERVENTIONParliamentDiscussed TopicProcedural TermPerson SpeakingSearchResults per pageOrder byTarget search languageSide by SideMaximum returned rowsPagePUBLICATION TYPE