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Committee Evidence - OGGO-38
2021-06-16
Francis Drouin - 16:19
CPC (AB)
Kelly McCauley (Edmonton West)
2021-06-16 16:19
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Thanks, Mr. Chair. You're doing a fabulous job.
Minister, welcome back. Although we have our disagreements, obviously, I'm sincerely glad to see you back and doing well.
I want to talk about SNC‑Lavalin. Your government gave a $150-million sole-source contract to SNC‑Lavalin for mobile health units. The issue is that no province asked for them. PHAC did not ask for them. Public health did not ask for these mobile health units, but they were declared such an urgency that they had to be sole-sourced to SNC‑Lavalin.
Did this $150 million go through the Treasury Board process?
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COVID-19
Field hospitals
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SNC-Lavalin Group Inc.
Supplementary estimates (A) 2021-2022
Treasury Board Secretariat
Hon. Jean-Yves Duclos - 16:20
CPC (AB)
Kelly McCauley (Edmonton West)
2021-06-16 16:20
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I'd like just a quick yes or no as to whether it went through the Treasury Board approval process.
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SNC-Lavalin Group Inc.
Supplementary estimates (A) 2021-2022
Treasury Board Secretariat
Hon. Jean-Yves Duclos - 16:20
Roger Ermuth - 16:20
CPC (AB)
Kelly McCauley (Edmonton West)
2021-06-16 16:21
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Right. I'm just curious as to whether it went through the process.
Minister, nobody has asked for these mobile health units. They haven't been deployed. In your role as the ultimate guardian of taxpayers' money and providing oversight, do you approve of this money being used for something that no one apparently asked for and that is not getting used?
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SNC-Lavalin Group Inc.
Supplementary estimates (A) 2021-2022
Treasury Board Secretariat
Hon. Jean-Yves Duclos - 16:21
CPC (AB)
Kelly McCauley (Edmonton West)
2021-06-16 16:21
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No, Minister, I'm asking whether you, as Canada's chief guardian of taxpayers' interests in your role as Treasury Board president, approve of that $150-million sole-source contract.
The reason I ask is that in the supplementary estimates, there is an additional $660 million for mobile public health units. We've heard that the government hasn't used any of these units from SNC-Lavalin, but we see another $660 million in the supplementary estimates.
How much of that is going for SNC-Lavalin, and why is the government continuing to pour money into mobile health units that aren't being used?
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SNC-Lavalin Group Inc.
Supplementary estimates (A) 2021-2022
Treasury Board Secretariat
Hon. Jean-Yves Duclos - 16:22
CPC (AB)
Kelly McCauley (Edmonton West)
2021-06-16 16:22
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I realize the request was by PSPC, but they're in your supplementary estimates, and Treasury Board, which put out the supplementary estimates, has it in the highlights, so I assume someone at Treasury Board knows some more details about this $651 million for health units.
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Treasury Board Secretariat
Hon. Jean-Yves Duclos - 16:23
Glenn Purves - 16:23
CPC (AB)
Kelly McCauley (Edmonton West)
2021-06-16 16:23
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How much of the $650 million is going for mobile health units? None of them have been used in eastern Canada, so I'm wondering why there's another $650 million. It's in the estimates, so it has obviously gone through the Treasury Board approval process. I'm hoping someone from Treasury Board can tell us why there's an extra $650 million.
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Supplementary estimates (A) 2021-2022
Treasury Board Secretariat
Glenn Purves - 16:24
CPC (AB)
Kelly McCauley (Edmonton West)
2021-06-16 16:24
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Let me just go back to the supplementary estimates. We've seen the rather—I can't find a word for it—disgusting, I guess, government bailout of Air Canada with, of course, taxpayers' money. The bailout included the wage subsidy, which we heard, by the way, also apparently didn't go through the Treasury Board process. The wage subsidy was used to pay off Air Canada executives.
I see in the estimates that there's now funding for regional air transportation initiatives. There's almost $30 million.
Is any of that money going to airlines, including Air Canada?
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Supplementary estimates (A) 2021-2022
Treasury Board Secretariat
Hon. Jean-Yves Duclos - 16:25
CPC (AB)
Kelly McCauley (Edmonton West)
2021-06-16 16:25
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My question is specifically regarding the $30 million in the supplementary estimates.
Is any of that going to airlines, or specifically Air Canada?
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Treasury Board Secretariat
Hon. Jean-Yves Duclos - 16:25
CPC (AB)
Kelly McCauley (Edmonton West)
2021-06-16 16:25
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No. I'm asking about the $30 million in the supplementary estimates. Is any of that's going to airlines or Air Canada? Seeing as it's in the supplementaries and you've detailed it in your summary, I assume you must know.
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Francis Drouin - 16:25
Robert Kitchen - 17:02
CPC (AB)
Rachael Harder (Lethbridge)
2021-06-16 17:02
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Thank you.
Minister, you and Minister Anand have talked a lot about the importance of our relationship with indigenous people. Originally in her mandate letter, it was set out that she would allocate 5% of all procurement contracts to indigenous-led businesses. You've talked about the importance of that, even here today.
Unfortunately, when it comes to procuring anything, really that rate is actually only 2%. It's 2% of all procurements that is being allocated to indigenous-led businesses, which is a tremendous failure in comparison to the 5% set out in the original mandate letter. In the meantime, a sole-source contract was awarded to China for PPE.
Why wasn't there a competitive process, and why wasn't opportunity given to indigenous-led businesses?
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Government contracts
Indigenous peoples
Personal protective equipment
Small and medium-sized enterprises
Supplementary estimates (A) 2021-2022
Treasury Board Secretariat
Hon. Jean-Yves Duclos - 17:03
CPC (AB)
Rachael Harder (Lethbridge)
2021-06-16 17:03
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Minister, my question is very direct, and so a direct answer would be appropriate.
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Indigenous peoples
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Supplementary estimates (A) 2021-2022
Treasury Board Secretariat
Hon. Jean-Yves Duclos - 17:03
CPC (AB)
Rachael Harder (Lethbridge)
2021-06-16 17:04
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Why was a sole-source contract given to China instead of an indigenous-led business? They were deliberately ignored.
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Supplementary estimates (A) 2021-2022
Treasury Board Secretariat
Hon. Jean-Yves Duclos - 17:04
CPC (AB)
Rachael Harder (Lethbridge)
2021-06-16 17:04
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Then why was a sole-source contract given to China?
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Supplementary estimates (A) 2021-2022
Treasury Board Secretariat
Hon. Jean-Yves Duclos - 17:04
CPC (AB)
Rachael Harder (Lethbridge)
2021-06-16 17:04
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You're supporting them by giving a sole-source contract to China?
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Supplementary estimates (A) 2021-2022
Treasury Board Secretariat
Hon. Jean-Yves Duclos - 17:04
CPC (AB)
Rachael Harder (Lethbridge)
2021-06-16 17:04
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You're certainly not answering appropriately. You're right. Thank you for acknowledging that.
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Hon. Jean-Yves Duclos - 17:04
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