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Lib. (ON)
I call this meeting to order.
Welcome to meeting number 37 of the House of Commons Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights.
Before we get into our study on the Victims Bill of Rights, I'll just remind members of a couple of housekeeping items. First and foremost, if you are requiring interpretation, just take a look at the bottom of your Zoom screen, where you will see a globe icon. Please select the language that you would like to listen to. You can speak in any of our official languages.
Secondly, when you are speaking, please ensure that your microphone is unmuted and speak slowly and clearly. When you have finished speaking. please make sure that you are back on mute. Mr. Clerk and I will do our best to maintain a speaking list and a speaking order. Please raise your hand if you have anything to raise. Thank you for your co-operation on this.
Before we start our study on the Victims Bill of Rights, we have to approve the report from the subcommittee meeting that we had on Tuesday. The report was distributed to all members electronically yesterday. Are there any comments on it? If members agree with it, we'll go ahead and carry it.
I'll see a thumbs-up for carrying the report. Great. So carried.
I have just a note for members and witnesses. At the same time this committee meeting is happening, there is a virtual ceremony commemorating the release of the national action plan for the missing and murdered indigenous women and girls, coinciding with the second anniversary of the release of the final report on the missing and murdered indigenous women and girls, and the 2SLGBTQQIA+ report.
Thank you, members, for being here today. At this point, I'll invite our witnesses who are here to speak about the Victims Bill of Rights, which I feel is very fitting on this anniversary.
We have with us the Department of Justice, represented by Carole Morency and Stéphanie Bouchard; the Department of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness, represented by Julie Thompson and Suzanne Wallace-Capretta; the Parole Board of Canada, represented by Ian Broom; and the Correctional Service of Canada, represented by Kirstan Gagnon.
I welcome all of our officials. I note that the Correctional Service of Canada and the Parole Board of Canada will not be offering opening remarks today. We'll go ahead and start with the Department of Justice.
As I'm sure you're aware, I have a one-minute card and a 30-second card that will help you in keeping time for your five-minute remarks.
Madam Morency, please go ahead for your five minutes.
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Lib. (ON)
Thank you very much, Madam.
We'll now go to the Department of Public Safety for five minutes.
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Lib. (ON)
Thank you very much for that, Ms. Thompson.
We'll now go into our rounds of questions.
Members, note that we do have the Parole Board of Canada and Correctional Service of Canada here with us today to answer questions as well, should you have any for them.
We'll start with our first round of six minutes each, beginning with Mr. Moore.
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Lib. (ON)
Mr. Cooper, please go ahead.
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Lib. (ON)
Thank you very much, Mr. Cooper.
We'll now go to Mr. Kelloway for six minutes, please.
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Lib. (ON)
You have eight seconds.
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Lib. (ON)
Thank you, Mr. Kelloway.
We'll now go to Monsieur Fortin for six minutes.
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Lib. (ON)
Thank you very much, Monsieur Fortin. I appreciate that.
We'll now go to Mr. Garrison for six minutes.
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Lib. (ON)
Thank you very much, Mr. Garrison.
We'll now go to our second round of questions, starting with Madam Findlay, for five minutes.
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Lib. (ON)
I'll stop you there, Mr. Broom. My apologies, but we're a minute over.
Ms. Kerry-Lynne Findlay: Thank you.
The Chair: We'll go next to Mr. Maloney.
Please go ahead for five minutes.
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Lib. (ON)
Is that for anyone specifically, Mr. Maloney?
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Lib. (ON)
Answer very briefly. Thank you.
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Lib. (ON)
Thank you very much, Mr. Maloney.
We'll now go to Monsieur Fortin for two and a half minutes.
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Lib. (ON)
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Lib. (ON)
You don't have a few seconds left at all, Monsieur Fortin.
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Lib. (ON)
You're at three and a half minutes now, Monsieur Fortin. You've had a minute extra.
I appreciate your passion on this. Thank you so much.
We'll go to Mr. Garrison now for two and a half minutes.
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Lib. (ON)
Thank you very much, Mr. Garrison. You're on the dot with your two and a half minutes. I appreciate that.
That concludes our round of questions. Before we suspend for the next panel, I really want to thank MP Tim Louis who joined us today, replacing Mr. Virani for a little bit there.
Tim, thank you so much for joining us in our justice meeting today.
Thank you, everyone.
Thank you to the witnesses for being here today and for your very compelling testimony.
We'll suspend for one to two minutes as we let in our witness for the next hour.
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Lib. (ON)
Welcome back, everyone, for our second hour of this justice committee meeting on the Victims Bill of Rights.
I understand that Ms. Illingworth has been here before and she knows the rules, but I'll just reinforce them so that everybody is aware.
When you are speaking, please ensure that you are unmuted and that you speak slowly and clearly for interpreters. When you are done speaking, please ensure that you are back on mute. You have the same interpretation services that are available to members. At the bottom of your screen, select the language that you'd like to listen to. You can speak in any of our official languages.
With that, I would like to welcome Ms. Illingworth, who will be providing opening remarks for five minutes. For members who don't know her, she is from the Office of the Federal Ombudsman for Victims of Crime.
Welcome, and thank you for your time, Ms. Illingworth.
Please go ahead. You have five minutes to make your opening remarks.
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Lib. (ON)
Thank you very much, Ms. Illingworth.
We will now go to Mr. Moore for the first round of questions for six minutes.
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Lib. (ON)
Thank you very much, Mr. Moore.
We'll now go to Mr. Virani for six minutes.
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Lib. (ON)
Thank you, Mr. Virani.
We'll now go to Monsieur Fortin for six minutes.
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Lib. (ON)
Thank you, Monsieur Fortin.
We'll now go to Mr. Garrison for six minutes.
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Lib. (ON)
Go ahead for one more question.
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Lib. (ON)
Thank you, Mr. Garrison.
We'll now go to Mr. Lewis for five minutes.
Go ahead, Mr. Lewis.
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Lib. (ON)
Thank you.
Thank you, Mr. Lewis.
We'll now go to Mr. Sarai for five minutes.
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Lib. (ON)
You have 15 seconds.
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Lib. (ON)
Thank you very much, Mr. Sarai.
We'll go to Monsieur Fortin for two and a half minutes.
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Lib. (ON)
Thank you, Mr. Fortin.
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Lib. (ON)
Thank you, Monsieur Fortin.
Mr. Garrison, you have two and a half minutes. Please go ahead.
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Lib. (ON)
Thank you very much, Mr. Garrison.
We'll now go to Mr. Cooper, please, for three minutes.
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Lib. (ON)
Thank you very much.
Thank you, Mr. Cooper.
Lastly, we'll go to Mr. Maloney for three minutes.
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Lib. (ON)
Thank you very much.
I love it that Mr. Maloney times himself.
Thank you, Ms. Illingworth, for your time today, for your very compelling testimony and for answering questions from members on this very important topic.
With that, members, I will adjourn this meeting until next time.
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Lib. (ON)
I call this meeting to order.
Welcome to meeting number 35 of the House of Commons Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights. We're continuing our study on elder abuse.
Really quickly before we get into the weeds, members and witnesses, please take note of the interpretation that is available for this meeting. At the bottom of your screen, you'll see a globe icon with the interpretation. Please select the language you'd like to listen to. You should be able to speak in any official language you choose.
Please note that before speaking, wait to be acknowledged by me. Also, before you speak, please unmute your mike. Speak slowly and clearly so that translation does not have any issues. Once you're done speaking, please put your mike back on mute.
This is a reminder that all comments should be addressed through the chair. With respect to the speaking list, Mr. Clerk and I will do our best to ensure that everybody who needs to be heard will be heard.
Before we welcome our witnesses, I want to address something very quickly with members of the committee. I'd like to inform you of a situation that occurred last time we met on Thursday, May 13. Due to technical issues, two parts of our meeting on Thursday did not have proper audio on ParlVU. We heard white noise instead. These gaps occurred when Mr. Moore and Mr. Virani were speaking. It was when they were questioning witnesses, specifically. We heard that white noise for a total of 11 minutes.
Unfortunately, it seems unlikely that our technical services will be able to recover the sound for those missing moments. We are expecting a letter from the head of the committees directorate about what happened. We have already received assurances that everything will be done to avoid any reoccurrence like this in the future.
I invite members, if they have any [Technical difficulty—Editor] witnesses.
Okay, not hearing any comments, we'll go ahead—
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Lib. (ON)
Thank you, Mr. Garrison.
I understand that it was recently confirmed that the Hansard records will be available.
Mr. Clerk, would you like to clarify that?
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Lib. (ON)
Okay, they will ultimately form part of our deliberations for the report.
Mr. Virani.
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Lib. (ON)
Thanks, Mr. Virani. We have been given assurances that all measures will be taken to ensure that it does not happen again.
I want to clarify, Mr. Clerk. For the 11 minutes that are missing, will they be recorded or reported in the Hansard as to what happened in those 11 minutes or not?
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Lib. (ON)
Thank you, Mr. Clerk.
To clarify, we do not have in writing in the Hansard or in audio transcripts those 11 minutes from our last meeting of questions and answers between members and witnesses on this study.
Are members okay with that?
Also, obviously, we're taking steps to ensure that it doesn't happen again.
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Lib. (ON)
That's correct.
Mr. Moore, if you want, you can provide your insight.
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Lib. (ON)
All right. Thank you very much for that, Mr. Moore.
Are there any other comments on that? I'm not seeing any.
We'll invite our witnesses and thank them very much for being here today.
From the Canadian Bar Association, we have Jessica L. Lyle, chair, Elder Law Section, and Jody Berkes, chair, Criminal Justice Section.
We also have CanAge, represented by Laura Tamblyn Watts, who is the president and CEO, and Haley Mason, policy officer.
We also have the FADOQ network, represented by Gisèle Tassé-Goodman, president of the provincial secretariat, and Danis Prud'homme, executive director of the provincial secretariat.
Before we go to the opening remarks, I'll draw your attention to my one-minute and 30-second time cards. They will help you keep time for your opening remarks.
We'll start with The Canadian Bar Association.
You have five minutes. Please go ahead.
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Lib. (ON)
Thank you very much for that.
We'll now go to CanAge.
Please go ahead. You have five minutes.
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Lib. (ON)
Thank you very much, Ms. Mason.
We'll now go to our last, but definitely not the least, presenter, Réseau FADOQ, for five minutes.
Please go ahead.
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Lib. (ON)
Thank you very much.
We'll now go into our first round of questions of six minutes each, starting with Mr. Moore.
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Lib. (ON)
Thank you very much, Mr. Moore.
We will now move to Madame Brière for six minutes.
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Lib. (ON)
Thank you, Mr. Prud'homme.
We'll now go to Monsieur Fortin.
Mr. Fortin, you have the floor for six minutes.
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Lib. (ON)
Thank you, Mr. Fortin.
I really appreciate that.
We'll now go to Mr. Garrison for six minutes.
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Lib. (ON)
Thank you.
My sincerest apologies. We're out of time for Mr. Garrison there. Perhaps we could pick this up in the next round.
We are moving to our second round of questions, starting with Mr. Lewis.
Mr. Lewis, you have five minutes. Please go ahead.
Madame Findlay, I don't see him on the screen.
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Lib. (ON)
Okay. Well, if Mr. Cooper wants to go ahead....
I have on my sheet here that it's Mr. Lewis, but Mr. Cooper, please go ahead.
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Lib. (ON)
I'm so sorry, Madam Findlay. Can you please move your boom down?
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Lib. (ON)
Thank you, Madam Findlay.
Now it is Mr. Virani's turn to ask questions.
You have five minutes at your disposal.
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Lib. (ON)
Thank you very much.
We'll now go to Monsieur Fortin for two and a half minutes.
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Lib. (ON)
Your time is up, Mr. Fortin.
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Lib. (ON)
Thank you very much.
We'll now go to Mr. Garrison for two and a half minutes.
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Lib. (ON)
Thank you.
Thanks very much, Mr. Garrison.
Thank you to the witnesses. At this time, we will suspend as we bring in our next panel of witnesses, but I must say that this whole conversation today has been very compelling. We've had very strong testimony from each and every one of you. We really appreciate how much that will inform our study.
Thank you again.
We will suspend for a couple of minutes as we bring in our next panellists.
Thank you, everyone.
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Lib. (ON)
Welcome to our witnesses who are joining us on this panel.
As just a quick housekeeping—
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Lib. (ON)
Thank you, Mr. Fortin.
Mr. Clerk, can I just clarify that? Are we having ongoing issues with interpretation?
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Lib. (ON)
Thank you very much, Mr. Clerk.
Just before I introduce our witnesses, I'll go over some housekeeping rules.
Please take note of the interpretation bar at the bottom of your Zoom screen and select the language you'd like to listen to. You can speak in the language you choose, English or French. When you are not speaking, ensure that you are on mute; and when you are speaking, please wait to be recognized by the chair. Ensure that you speak slowly and clearly so that we don't have any interpretation issues throughout this process. I have a one-minute card and a 30-second card to help you keep time.
With that, I'll introduce our witnesses.
For the second panel, we have the Council to Reduce Elder Abuse, represented by Sherry Baker, who is the executive director of the B.C. Association of Community Response Networks. We also have Seniors First B.C., represented by Marie-Noël Campbell, executive director and lawyer; and Eric B. Clavier, lawyer and president, board of directors. Lastly, we have Statistics Canada, represented by Jeff Latimer, the director general of health, justice, diversity and populations; and Kathy AuCoin, the chief of the analysis program at the Canadian Centre for Justice and Community Safety Statistics.
Welcome to each and every one of you.
We'll start with the Council to Reduce Elder Abuse. Please go ahead. You have five minutes.
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Lib. (ON)
Thank you very much, Ms. Baker.
We'll now go to Seniors First B.C. for five minutes. Please go ahead.
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Lib. (ON)
Thank you very much, Ms. Campbell.
Just for your notes, for your next interventions as we go on with this meeting, could you please put the in-line mike closer to your mouth? That would be much appreciated by the interpreters.
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Lib. (ON)
We'll now go to Statistics Canada for five minutes of opening remarks.
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Lib. (ON)
Thank you very much. I appreciate that.
We'll now go into our rounds of questions, starting with Madame Findlay for six minutes.
Please go ahead.
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Lib. (ON)
Answer very briefly, please.
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Lib. (ON)
Thank you very much for that.
We'll now move to Mr. Sarai for six minutes. Please go ahead.
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Lib. (ON)
Thanks very much.
We'll now go to Mr. Fortin for six minutes.
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Lib. (ON)
Make it very quick, Ms. Campbell.
Please move your mike closer to your mouth so we can hear properly. Thank you.
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Lib. (ON)
Thank you very much, Monsieur Fortin.
We'll now go to Mr. Garrison for six minutes.
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Lib. (ON)
Thank you for pointing that out, Monsieur Fortin.
Mr. Clerk, can I ask if something is going on?
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Lib. (ON)
Just to prevent lack of communication, maybe we'll just pause as you check that. Thank you.
I have paused your time, Mr. Garrison, just so that you know.
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Lib. (ON)
Perfect.
Monsieur Fortin, is your interpretation now working?
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Lib. (ON)
Thank you very much.
Mr. Garrison, you can please go ahead.
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Lib. (ON)
Thank you very much, Mr. Garrison.
You left a minute on the clock. If you don't mind, I'd like to oblige with a very quick question for Statistics Canada.
In the previous panel we heard from the Canadian Bar Association about the importance of enforcement, and not just of creating crimes in the Criminal Code with respect to elder abuse. I'm just wondering if there is a very targeted approach to collecting data with respect not just the crimes of which people are convicted, but also maybe that full range of crimes. Is there any way in which we could identify exactly how or where that enforcement is lacking?
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Lib. (ON)
Thank you very much for that. I really appreciate it.
With that, I'd like to thank all of our witnesses for your excellent testimony today.
Thank you, members. I will see you on Thursday for committee deliberations on drafting instructions for our elder abuse study.
In the meantime, the meeting is adjourned.
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Lib. (ON)
I call this meeting to order. Welcome to meeting 34 of the House of Commons Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights.
I have just a few housekeeping notes. Today, we have MP Jean Yip, who is replacing MP James Maloney. Welcome, Jean.
Stéphane Lauzon is also back to replace Mike Kelloway.
Good morning, Mr. Lauzon.
We also have MP Tochor, who is replacing MP Kerry-Lynne Findlay. Welcome, Corey. It's great to have you on our justice committee, I think for the first time.
We are continuing our study on elder abuse.
To ensure an orderly meeting today, I will go over some rules for the witnesses and for the members.
Interpretation services are available to everybody who is listening. At the bottom of your Zoom screen, make sure that you've selected the language that you'd like to listen to. You can speak in either of our two official languages. If you need to get my attention, just use the “raise hand” function at the bottom of the screen and I will call on you.
Before speaking, please wait until I recognize you, and before you start speaking, ensure that you unmute yourself, which is again at the bottom of the screen. Speak slowly and clearly. Once you are done speaking, please ensure that you are back on mute.
As a reminder, all comments by members and witnesses should be addressed through the chair. With regard to a speakers list and a speaking order, Mr. Clerk and I will do our best to maintain an orderly meeting.
For the witnesses, just for your reference, I have a one-minute and a 30-second time card that will help you keep track of your time.
Before we start with the introduction of our witnesses today, I'd like to get the committee's approval of the operational budget that was distributed to members yesterday. The budget is in the amount of $4,100. It will serve to pay our expenses for this current study on elder abuse.
Do I have everyone’s approval? Do I see a thumbs-up from members?
Some hon. members: Agreed.
The Chair: Thank you, everyone. I appreciate that.
Now I would like to welcome our witnesses.
Mathieu Robitaille is a community intervenor at the Centre d'action bénévole Saint-Jérôme.
We also have the Canadian Association of Social Workers, represented by Hai Luo, who is a content expert and associate professor in the Faculty of Social Work at the University of Manitoba; and Patrick Fleming, who is a content expert and social worker.
We also have Pak Pioneers Community Organization of Canada, represented by Tehmina Naveed, who is the executive director.
Welcome to all of you.
We'll start with the Canadian Association of Social Workers for opening remarks of five minutes.
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Lib. (ON)
Thank you, Ms. Luo. Hopefully, we'll get the rest of it out during the question-and-answer period.
Now we'll turn to Ms. Naveed from the Pak Pioneers Community Organization.
Please go ahead. You have five minutes.
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Lib. (ON)
Thank you very much, Ms. Naveed. Hopefully, the rest of your testimony comes out in questions.
We are still without Mr. Robitaille. We'll go ahead into our rounds of questions. Should he join us at a later time, we'll squeeze him in between our questioning.
We'll start with Mr. Cooper from the Conservatives.
You have six minutes.
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Lib. (ON)
Yes, Mr. Lauzon?
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Lib. (ON)
Thank you for pointing that out.
Can I ask witnesses and members to please mute your mikes.
Perfect. Thank you very much.
Go ahead, Ms. Luo.
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Lib. (ON)
Thank you very much.
Thank you, Mr. Cooper.
We will now go on to Madame Brière, for six minutes.
Please go ahead.
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Lib. (ON)
Yes, Mr. Lauzon?
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Lib. (ON)
Thank you very much for that, Monsieur Fortin. That is an excellent suggestion.
We will stop here and go to Monsieur Robitaille for his opening remarks, for five minutes.
As a quick introduction, Monsieur Robitaille is the community intervenor at the Centre d'action bénévole Saint-Jérôme.
Welcome.
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Lib. (ON)
Thank you, Mr. Robitaille.
We'll go back to our questions.
Madame Brière, you have six minutes. Please go ahead.
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Lib. (ON)
Thank you, Madame Brière.
We'll now go to Monsieur Fortin.
Mr. Fortin, you have the floor for six minutes.
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Lib. (ON)
Thank you, Mr. Fortin.
We will now go to Mr. Garrison, for six minutes.
Please go ahead, sir.
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Lib. (ON)
Thank you very much, Mr. Fleming.
Thank you, Mr. Garrison. Looking at the clock, we have five minutes remaining on the hour. I recommend to members that we have perhaps one minute each per party.
If we're okay with that, we'll start with Mr. Tochor, please. You have one minute.
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Lib. (ON)
You have 30 seconds.
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Lib. (ON)
Thank you very much.
We'll now go to Ms. Yip for one minute. Please go ahead.
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Lib. (ON)
Thank you very much.
We'll now go to Mr. Fortin for one minute.
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Lib. (ON)
Thank you very much, Monsieur Fortin.
We'll now go to Mr. Garrison for a minute.
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Lib. (ON)
Thank you very much, Mr. Garrison.
With that, I'd like to thank all of our witnesses for your very compelling testimony this morning. We really appreciate your contributions.
If there are clarifications or additional information you'd like to provide, please send it in writing to our clerk of the committee, who will then circulate it to members.
We'll suspend briefly as we let in our second panel of witnesses.
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Lib. (ON)
I call this meeting back to order.
Welcome to our witnesses for this afternoon's panel on our study on elder abuse.
Just for the benefit of witnesses who are just joining us now, I'd like you to take note of the interpretation icon that's at the bottom of your Zoom screen. Just select the language that you'd like to listen to. You can speak in French or English. When you are speaking, just ensure that you unmute yourself, speak slowly and clearly, and when you have finished speaking, make sure that you put yourself back on mute. Please wait until I recognize you before speaking.
With that, I'd like to welcome our witnesses. We have the Canadian Indigenous Nurses Association represented by Marilee Nowgesic, who's the chief executive officer. We also have the Canadians Nurses Association, represented by Michael Villeneuve, chief executive officer. We have Miranda Ferrier, who is the chief executive officer, Canadian Support Workers Association.
Welcome, and just before we get into it, I'd like to wish all of you a very happy National Nursing Week. On behalf of our committee, we really appreciate all of the great work that you do in keeping us safe and healthy. Thank you for your contributions.
We'll go ahead and start with the Canadian Indigenous Nurses Association for five minutes.
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Lib. (ON)
Meegwetch, Ms. Nowgesic. I appreciate your testimony.
We'll now go to the Canadian Nurses Association for five minutes.
Please go ahead.
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Lib. (ON)
Thank you very much. You still had about 40 seconds on the clock, but I do appreciate any extra time we can get.
We'll now go into our first round of questions, starting with Mr. Moore.
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Lib. (ON)
Thank you, Mr. Lauzon.
Can I please ask Mr. Clerk to just check in to see if all [Technical difficulty—Editor]?
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Lib. (ON)
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Lib. (ON)
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Lib. (ON)
I'm sorry, Ms. Nowgesic. We missed the last part. Would you like to repeat that?
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Lib. (ON)
Yes. Thank you very much.
We'll now go to Monsieur Fortin.
Please go ahead for six minutes.
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Lib. (ON)
Thanks very much.
Thank you, Mr. Fortin.
We'll now go to Mr. Garrison for six minutes.
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Lib. (ON)
We'll go into our second round with Mr. Lewis for five minutes.
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Lib. (ON)
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