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View Sean Casey Profile
Lib. (PE)
View Sean Casey Profile
2021-06-07 16:51
Thank you very much, Mr. Chair.
I'd like to bring Ms. MacKenzie and Ms. Forbes into the discussion here.
Ms. MacKenzie, in your opening remarks, there were a couple of things that you said that I'd like to probe a little further. First, you mentioned about a dog not being a program dog and the importance of the differentiation between owner training and self-training.
The other thing you said, and your colleague Ms. Forbes also focused on this as well, was about standards for training versus standards for outcomes. I'd like to hear you elaborate a bit more on those two points, if you would, please.
Then I'm going to go to you, Ms. Forbes.
View Sean Casey Profile
Lib. (PE)
View Sean Casey Profile
2021-06-07 16:54
Thank you.
I'm sorry. Go ahead. Finish your thought. I thought you were done.
View Sean Casey Profile
Lib. (PE)
View Sean Casey Profile
2021-06-07 16:54
Yes, I thought so too. Thank you for that.
Ms. Forbes, one of the things that Ms. MacKenzie just said that I hope you'll be able to help me with is that she is not ADI certified because she's not a charity. Based on all of the committees on which you sit, I know you know this space very well. Why is it that the ADI certification only works for charities?
View Sean Casey Profile
Lib. (PE)
View Sean Casey Profile
2021-06-07 16:56
I think that's what you talked about in terms of being accredited by Imagine Canada.
Could I get you to react to something else, as well?
We heard something from Mr. Cousineau that I found quite troubling, that the process towards developing a national standard was sabotaged by an organization that was pursuing their own self-interests. You indicated that you're on the CGSB technical committee. What would be your reaction to that sort of news? Can you expand upon it at all?
View Sean Casey Profile
Lib. (PE)
View Sean Casey Profile
2021-06-07 16:57
Thank you, and thanks for your indulgence, Mr. Chair.
View Sean Casey Profile
Lib. (PE)
View Sean Casey Profile
2021-06-03 15:37
I call this meeting to order and welcome you to meeting number 38 of the House of Commons Standing Committee on Human Resources, Skills and Social Development and the Status of Persons with Disabilities.
Today's meeting is taking place in a hybrid format, pursuant to the House order of January 25, 2021. The proceedings will be made available via the House of Commons website, which will always show the person speaking rather than the entirety of the committee.
Pursuant to Standing Order 108(2) and the motion adopted by the committee on Tuesday, February 2, 2021, the committee will continue its study on the impact of COVID-19 on seniors.
I'd like to welcome Dr. Suzanne Dupuis-Blanchard from the National Seniors Council.
Dr. Blanchard, interpretation is available at this video conference. You have the choice at the bottom of your screen of floor, English or French. When speaking, please speak slowly and clearly, and when you're not speaking, your mike should be on mute.
You'll probably see me from time to time holding up one finger. That's not because I have something to say; it's to signal that there's one minute left in the turn of the person who's asking you a question.
Thank you so much for being with us, Dr. Dupuis-Blanchard.
Without further ado, you have the floor for your opening remarks for a five full minutes, if you need them.
View Sean Casey Profile
Lib. (PE)
View Sean Casey Profile
2021-06-03 15:44
Thank you very much, Dr. Dupuis-Blanchard.
We will now begin with rounds of questions, starting with the Conservatives.
Mr. Vis, please go ahead for six minutes.
View Sean Casey Profile
Lib. (PE)
View Sean Casey Profile
2021-06-03 15:50
You have just under a minute.
View Sean Casey Profile
Lib. (PE)
View Sean Casey Profile
2021-06-03 15:50
Thank you very much, Mr. Vis.
Next we have Mr. Turnbull, please, for six minutes.
View Sean Casey Profile
Lib. (PE)
View Sean Casey Profile
2021-06-03 15:53
Mr. Turnbull, we now have Dr. Kuperman with us. I'm going to suggest that we suspend to do a sound check for him and then allow him to deliver his opening remarks. You are about halfway through your turn. If all goes well and Dr. Kuperman is ready to go, then you'll have three minutes when we come back.
We'll suspend while we do the sound check.
View Sean Casey Profile
Lib. (PE)
View Sean Casey Profile
2021-06-03 15:54
Dr. Kuperman, you might have missed some of the preamble. I'll give you the condensed version.
Interpretation is available on the bottom of your screen. You have the choice of floor, English or French. Please close your microphone when you're not speaking, and speak slowly and clearly for the benefit of the interpreters. That's the Reader's Digest version.
Now we're going to resume with questions, beginning with Mr. Turnbull for three minutes.
Mr. Turnbull, you have the floor.
View Sean Casey Profile
Lib. (PE)
View Sean Casey Profile
2021-06-03 15:55
Excuse me, Mr. Turnbull. I missed one very important step.
Dr. Kuperman has undoubtedly been working for days and days on his opening remarks, and I gave such a condensed version that I forgot to give him the floor.
Dr. Kuperman, you have five minutes for your opening remarks, and then Mr. Turnbull is going to ask some very interesting questions. You have the floor.
View Sean Casey Profile
Lib. (PE)
View Sean Casey Profile
2021-06-03 16:00
Thank you, Dr. Kuperman.
Without further ado, for the remainder of his six-minute round, we have Mr. Turnbull.
I'll do my best not to interrupt you over the next three minutes, Mr. Turnbull. You have the floor.
View Sean Casey Profile
Lib. (PE)
View Sean Casey Profile
2021-06-03 16:03
Be as brief as you can, please.
View Sean Casey Profile
Lib. (PE)
View Sean Casey Profile
2021-06-03 16:04
Thank you, Mr. Turnbull.
Ms. Chabot, you have the floor for six minutes.
View Sean Casey Profile
Lib. (PE)
View Sean Casey Profile
2021-06-03 16:09
Thank you, Ms. Chabot.
Next we are going to have Ms. Gazan, please, for six minutes.
View Sean Casey Profile
Lib. (PE)
View Sean Casey Profile
2021-06-03 16:15
Thank you, Ms. Gazan.
View Sean Casey Profile
Lib. (PE)
View Sean Casey Profile
2021-06-03 16:15
Next, Mr. Tochor, please go ahead for five minutes.
View Sean Casey Profile
Lib. (PE)
View Sean Casey Profile
2021-06-03 16:21
Thank you, Mr. Tochor.
Mr. Dong, you have five minutes, please.
View Sean Casey Profile
Lib. (PE)
View Sean Casey Profile
2021-06-03 16:26
Answer as concisely as possible, if you could, please.
View Sean Casey Profile
Lib. (PE)
View Sean Casey Profile
2021-06-03 16:27
Thank you, Mr. Dong.
Ms. Chabot, you have the floor for two and a half minutes.
View Sean Casey Profile
Lib. (PE)
View Sean Casey Profile
2021-06-03 16:30
Thank you, Ms. Chabot.
The last questions will be posed by Ms. Gazan, please.
Ms. Gazan, you have the next two and a half minutes.
View Sean Casey Profile
Lib. (PE)
View Sean Casey Profile
2021-06-03 16:33
Thank you, Ms. Gazan.
Thank you to our witnesses today.
Dr. Kuperman, thanks for your patience in working through the new reality that is Zoom and technology.
To both of you, we very much appreciate the work that you do in your professional academic careers and your willingness to share that. It will be of great benefit to us in our work.
We appreciate the patient and comprehensive way you've handled all the questions. Thanks for being with us.
Colleagues, we're going to suspend for a couple of minutes to do the sound checks for the next panel.
To our witnesses, you're welcome to stay, but you're free to leave.
View Sean Casey Profile
Lib. (PE)
View Sean Casey Profile
2021-06-03 16:38
I call the meeting back to order.
We have one witness who is besieged with technical problems, but Mr. Prud'homme is in a position to deliver the opening statement for Réseau FADOQ and Ms, Tassé‑Goodman will join us when that is possible. We don't have the leisure to extend the meeting today, so we're going to proceed.
We are continuing our study on the impact of COVID-19 on seniors.
The following comments are for the benefit of the witnesses.
Before speaking, please wait until I recognize you by name. When you're ready to speak, you can click on the microphone icon to activate your mike. Interpretation is available at this meeting. You have the choice at the bottom of your screen of floor, English or French.
When speaking, please speak slowly and clearly. When you aren't speaking, your microphone should be on mute.
I now want to welcome the witnesses to continue our discussion. They'll have five minutes to give their opening remarks. The committee members can then ask questions.
From the United Way of Canada, we have Debra Shime, vice-president of community initiatives.
I also want to welcome the representatives of the provincial secretariat of the Réseau FADOQ: Danis Prud'homme, director general, and Gisèle Tassé‑Goodman, president.
It's a pleasure to see you.
View Sean Casey Profile
Lib. (PE)
View Sean Casey Profile
2021-06-03 16:40
We'll conduct a sound check with Ms. Tassé‑Goodman. Ms. Shime can then begin her presentation.
If we could, let's do a sound check for Ms. Tassé-Goodman, Madam Clerk.
View Sean Casey Profile
Lib. (PE)
View Sean Casey Profile
2021-06-03 16:41
We're going to start with Ms. Shime for five minutes, please.
You have the floor.
View Sean Casey Profile
Lib. (PE)
View Sean Casey Profile
2021-06-03 16:46
Thank you, Ms. Shime.
We'll now turn to Gisèle Tassé‑Goodman, president of the provincial secretariat of the Réseau FADOQ.
Welcome to the committee, Ms. Tassé‑Goodman. You have the floor for five minutes.
View Sean Casey Profile
Lib. (PE)
View Sean Casey Profile
2021-06-03 16:51
Thank you.
We will begin the first round of questions and answers.
Mr. Tochor, go ahead for six minutes.
View Sean Casey Profile
Lib. (PE)
View Sean Casey Profile
2021-06-03 16:51
Mr. Vis, please.
View Sean Casey Profile
Lib. (PE)
View Sean Casey Profile
2021-06-03 16:57
We might get back to you, Mr. Vis, for another turn.
Mr. Long, you have six minutes, please.
View Sean Casey Profile
Lib. (PE)
View Sean Casey Profile
2021-06-03 17:04
Thank you, Mr. Long.
Ms. Chabot, the floor is yours for six minutes.
View Sean Casey Profile
Lib. (PE)
View Sean Casey Profile
2021-06-03 17:11
Thank you, Mr. Prud’homme and Ms. Chabot.
Next is Ms. Gazan, please, for six minutes.
View Sean Casey Profile
Lib. (PE)
View Sean Casey Profile
2021-06-03 17:17
Thank you, Ms. Gazan.
Thank you, Mr. Prud'homme.
View Sean Casey Profile
Lib. (PE)
View Sean Casey Profile
2021-06-03 17:17
Next we have Mr. Tochor, please, for five minutes.
View Sean Casey Profile
Lib. (PE)
View Sean Casey Profile
2021-06-03 17:22
Thank you, Mr. Tochor.
We're going to Mr. Vaughan for five minutes.
View Sean Casey Profile
Lib. (PE)
View Sean Casey Profile
2021-06-03 17:28
Please provide a brief answer.
View Sean Casey Profile
Lib. (PE)
View Sean Casey Profile
2021-06-03 17:28
Thank you, Mr. Prud'homme.
Thank you, Mr. Vaughan.
We have a couple of minutes left. I'm going to suggest one question each.
So Ms. Chabot and Ms. Gazan could each ask a question.
Ms. Chabot, do you have one last question to ask?
View Sean Casey Profile
Lib. (PE)
View Sean Casey Profile
2021-06-03 17:30
Thank you, Ms. Shime.
The last question is for you, Ms. Gazan. You have the last word.
View Sean Casey Profile
Lib. (PE)
View Sean Casey Profile
2021-06-03 17:32
Thank you, Mr. Prud'homme.
Thank you to all of our witnesses for being with us today.
The United Way is very prominent right across the country, not just in seniors programs but in many others.
We very much appreciate the work that you do and for being with us.
Réseau FADOQ is a very important partner in the province of Quebec. We thank you for your work in your province and in your communities.
We also thank you for your testimony today. I know that your group is often invited to committee meetings, and for good reason.
Thank you very much.
Colleagues, do we have consent to adjourn?
I see that there is consent in the room. Thank you.
We'll see you next week. Have a good weekend, everyone.
The meeting is adjourned.
View Wayne Easter Profile
Lib. (PE)
I call the meeting officially to order.
Welcome to meeting number 53 of the House of Commons Standing Committee on Finance.
Pursuant to the House order of reference of Thursday, May 27, 2021, the committee is meeting to study Bill C-30, an act to implement certain provisions of the budget tabled in Parliament on April 19, 2021, and other measures.
Today's meeting is taking place in a hybrid format pursuant to the House order of January 25 of this year. Therefore, members are either attending in person in the room, or remotely using the Zoom application.
I sometimes hear those words in my sleep these days. We have repeated them so many times.
I hate to start without Mr. Julian, without one party here, but we will see where we are at first.
(On clauses 269 to 271)
The Chair: We had started a discussion—and you can correct me if I'm wrong, Mr. Clerk—on division 32, an increase to the old age security pension and payment. It was on page 286 of the bill. I believe the lead for the department was Kristen Underwood. There she is.
Welcome, Ms. Underwood.
The floor is open for further discussion on division 32.
Mrs. Jansen.
View Wayne Easter Profile
Lib. (PE)
Ms. Underwood, do you want to answer that?
We're not dealing with CPP. We're dealing with the OAS.
View Wayne Easter Profile
Lib. (PE)
I don't want to put senior people in the bureaucracy on the spot. That's more of a policy question, Tamara. Can you find a way to ask it? It's the government that decides on the policy, so I think that's probably an unfair question for the bureaucracy to answer. They do the data, the details.
View Wayne Easter Profile
Lib. (PE)
Mr. Julian is next, followed by Ms. Dzerowicz.
View Wayne Easter Profile
Lib. (PE)
We've just started because we didn't want to start without everyone present, as much as possible.
We're on division 32, which has clause 269. We will get to you—you have an amendment on clause 272—and others as we go through it.
I don't think there's really any choice on division 32 but to go through it clause by clause. There are so many amendments that we pretty well need to go through it clause by clause, unless you want to block some of yours in the middle.
View Wayne Easter Profile
Lib. (PE)
Okay.
Then we will go back to questions for Ms. Underwood.
Ms. Dzerowicz.
View Wayne Easter Profile
Lib. (PE)
Go ahead, Ms. Underwood.
View Wayne Easter Profile
Lib. (PE)
Okay.
Is there any further discussion on clause 269?
View Wayne Easter Profile
Lib. (PE)
Yes, go ahead.
View Wayne Easter Profile
Lib. (PE)
That's it for questions on this point.
(Clauses 269 to 271 inclusive agreed to on division)
(On clause 272)
The Chair: On clause 272 there is an amendment.
Mr. Julian, I have looked—and I know you said you'd like to block these—and the rulings for at least two of them are substantially different enough that I'm pretty near going to go clause by clause with each amendment. Your argument can be made on the whole works, but I will have to do a separate ruling at least on clauses 272, 273 and....
Go ahead, Peter, on your amendment NDP-14.
View Wayne Easter Profile
Lib. (PE)
Okay. I have a couple of people online for questions.
I would ask if you know what the cost of that might be. I'll go to Ms. Dzerowicz, if you want to think about that in the meantime.
Go ahead, Ms. Dzerowicz.
View Wayne Easter Profile
Lib. (PE)
It's up to you.
Go ahead, Mr. Ste-Marie.
View Wayne Easter Profile
Lib. (PE)
To respond to that question, we'll go to Ms. Dzerowicz and Mr. Julian. Could you explain NDP-14 a little further?
View Wayne Easter Profile
Lib. (PE)
NDP-15, okay.
I'm going to give a separate ruling on each, so I'll deal with NDP-14 first, and then I'll ask....
Okay, give it now, Peter. Give your response to NDP-15 now. Although it's a different chair's ruling, we'll have all the discussion now.
Go ahead.
View Wayne Easter Profile
Lib. (PE)
Are you satisfied with the answer, Mr. Ste-Marie?
Ms. Dzerowicz.
View Wayne Easter Profile
Lib. (PE)
That's for whoever wants to take it.
Did you hear that, Ms. Underwood? Go ahead if you did. I know your computer is just so-so.
View Wayne Easter Profile
Lib. (PE)
I believe we've completed the discussion on several amendments.
I will give the ruling on NDP-14. I'm bound by procedure and the rules of the House of Commons, so I may be a stick in the wheel.
The ruling is this: The amendment attempts to apply the 10% increase of pensions mentioned in the bill to people who are 65 years old, where the bill provides for the increase at 75 years old, which would result in increasing payments from the consolidated revenue fund. The amendment as proposed is inadmissible, as it requires a royal recommendation since it does impose a new charge on the public treasury, so I rule it inadmissible.
I will deal with these one at a time.
View Wayne Easter Profile
Lib. (PE)
All right. As I said, I will have to deal with them one at a time, because they are somewhat different rulings.
Mr. Clerk, there's been a challenge to the chair's ruling. If you would like to poll the committee, go ahead.
(Ruling of the chair sustained: yeas 9; nays 2)
(Clause 272 agreed to on division)
(On clause 273)
The Chair: Is there anything more you want to say on NDP-15, Mr. Julian?
View Wayne Easter Profile
Lib. (PE)
All right.
The ruling is this: The amendment attempts to remove the limit of increase of pension that is in the Old Age Security Act. If adopted, the amendment would provide for an increase of pension for people aged 70 years old, which would result in increasing payments from the consolidated revenue fund. The amendment as proposed is inadmissible as it requires a royal recommendation since it imposes a new charge on the public treasury. Therefore, the chair's ruling is that this amendment, NDP-15, is inadmissible.
View Wayne Easter Profile
Lib. (PE)
View Wayne Easter Profile
Lib. (PE)
Oh, yes. Thank you, Mr. Clerk. It's a good job you're paying attention.
On NDP-16, is there anything further you want to say Mr. Julian?
View Wayne Easter Profile
Lib. (PE)
This is the same ruling as related to clause 272. That's why I was trying to ignore it, but I will read it in any event so that we're all clear on the record.
The amendment attempts to apply the 10% increase to pensions mentioned in the bill to people who are 65 years old, whereas the bill provides for the increase at 75 years old, which would result in increasing payments from the consolidated revenue fund. The amendment, as proposed, is inadmissible as it requires a royal recommendation since it imposes a new charge on the public treasury.
I'll go back to you, Mr. Julian.
View Wayne Easter Profile
Lib. (PE)
View Wayne Easter Profile
Lib. (PE)
We're on clause 276 and there is amendment NDP-17. Do you want to add anything further on that one, Mr. Julian?
View Wayne Easter Profile
Lib. (PE)
Okay.
This ruling is a little different but it amounts to the same result.
The amendment provides for a unique $500 payment to pensioners who are 65 years old, whereas the bill provides for the same payment for pensioners 75 years or older. This would result in increasing payments from the consolidated revenue fund. The amendment as proposed is inadmissible as it requires a royal recommendation since it imposes a new charge on the public treasury.
We'll go over to you, Mr. Julian.
View Wayne Easter Profile
Lib. (PE)
Okay, we've had a little debate on the ruling.
We will go to the clerk, and he will poll the committee on whether we uphold the ruling or not.
(Ruling of the chair sustained: yeas 9; nays 2)
(Clause 276 agreed to on division)
(On clause 277)
View Wayne Easter Profile
Lib. (PE)
Thank you, Ms. Underwood and Mr. Wagdin.
We will now turn to division 33, the Public Service Employment Act, and we have as the lead, Ms. Beattie.
View Wayne Easter Profile
Lib. (PE)
Thank you very much for coming and waiting through a couple of nights, likely.
Do you want to give a quick explanation on division 33? Then we'll see if there are any questions.
View Wayne Easter Profile
Lib. (PE)
We'll start with that one and see if there are any questions.
I believe we're on page 289, for those who are following by way of the bill.
Are there any questions on clause 277?
(Clause 277 agreed to on division)
(On clause 278)
View Wayne Easter Profile
Lib. (PE)
Are there any questions on clause 278 by members?
(Clause 278 agreed to on division)
(On clause 279)
View Wayne Easter Profile
Lib. (PE)
Are there any questions on clause 279? I hear none.
(Clause 279 agreed to on division)
View Wayne Easter Profile
Lib. (PE)
Okay. We'll ask Ms. Beattie to explain all of these as a bundle.
I believe Mr. Julian has a question.
Do you have a question, Peter?
View Wayne Easter Profile
Lib. (PE)
It's good to see the official opposition and the NDP agreeing.
(On clauses 280 to 287)
The Chair: Could we get an explanation on the remainder of those clauses, Ms. Beattie? Then we'll go to a vote seeing them all as one.
View Wayne Easter Profile
Lib. (PE)
Okay.
Are there any questions from committee members?
I have one myself, Ms. Beattie.
How do you see doing this? Do you have supervisors over the supervisors supervising the hiring officers? How do you do this? How do you police this?
View Wayne Easter Profile
Lib. (PE)
I see that Ms. Dzerowicz has a question.
View Wayne Easter Profile
Lib. (PE)
If everyone is satisfied, then we shall go to—
View Wayne Easter Profile
Lib. (PE)
Go ahead.
View Wayne Easter Profile
Lib. (PE)
Thank you.
(Clauses 280 to 287 inclusive agreed to on division)
(On clause 288)
The Chair: Thank you, Ms. Beattie. I don't believe you're here for the next one. Thank you for being here all along.
Division 34 is on early learning and child care.
We have Ms. Karen Hall.
View Wayne Easter Profile
Lib. (PE)
If you want to give us an explanation, go ahead. You will have to hold your mike up for the interpreters.
View Wayne Easter Profile
Lib. (PE)
Okay. I just want to be sure of the numbers. It's $2.948 billion. Is that right?
View Wayne Easter Profile
Lib. (PE)
You guys in the public service round it higher than I do. I usually round it lower.
We'll have Mr. Fraser first and then Mr. Fast.
View Wayne Easter Profile
Lib. (PE)
Okay.
Mr. Fraser, are you okay?
View Wayne Easter Profile
Lib. (PE)
Okay. Thank you.
Mr. Fast.
View Wayne Easter Profile
Lib. (PE)
We've noted that, Mr. Fast. I've been through a lot of Parliaments, as you know, but I'll make no further comment.
Ms. Dzerowicz.
View Wayne Easter Profile
Lib. (PE)
You can.
View Wayne Easter Profile
Lib. (PE)
Thank you.
Ms. Hall, I happened to be around when the negotiations were going on between Ken Dryden and the provinces in 2004-05. Those negotiations are never easy, but we did have an early learning and child care program at the time.
Mr. Fraser.
View Wayne Easter Profile
Lib. (PE)
I see no further questions on clause 288.
(Clause 288 agreed to on division)
(On clauses 289 and 290)
The Chair: Before you're gone, Ms. Hall, thank you very much.
View Wayne Easter Profile
Lib. (PE)
For division 35, the lead will be Catherine Demers. It is on benefits and leave.
Ms. Demers, go ahead.
View Wayne Easter Profile
Lib. (PE)
That's not a problem. The clerk will bring them in.
View Wayne Easter Profile
Lib. (PE)
Go ahead, Ms. Demers.
View Wayne Easter Profile
Lib. (PE)
Yes, you can do clause 290, and then we have an amendment on clause 291. You can do clause 290 as well.
View Wayne Easter Profile
Lib. (PE)
Okay. Is there any discussion on these clauses? I think we have agreement to go to clauses 289 and 290 at the same time. Is there any discussion?
Mr. Fraser.
View Wayne Easter Profile
Lib. (PE)
Okay. I think that satisfies the question.
(Clauses 289 and 290 agreed to on division)
(On clause 291)
The Chair: We'll go to clause 291, if you want to give us a quick explanation. Then we have an amendment from Mr. Ste-Marie.
View Wayne Easter Profile
Lib. (PE)
View Wayne Easter Profile
Lib. (PE)
Are there any questions on that explanation before we go to Mr. Ste-Marie's amendment? We also have one from the NDP.
Mr. Ste-Marie.
View Wayne Easter Profile
Lib. (PE)
Mr. Julian.
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