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Committee Evidence - CHPC-35
2021-05-18
Hon. David Lametti - 14:47
CPC (AB)
Rachael Harder (Lethbridge)
2021-05-18 14:47
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It's interesting to me that in your opening statement, you said “the bill as tabled” supports the charter, again giving no acknowledgement to the fact that proposed section 4.1 has been removed. Even now, as I'm asking you questions, you're skirting the issue. You're refusing to address the fact that proposed section 4.1 has been removed and to give a statement as to whether or not the bill is still charter compliant.
Why are you avoiding my question?
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Lib. (QC)
Hon. David Lametti (LaSalle—Émard—Verdun)
2021-05-18 14:48
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I'm not avoiding the question. In fact, I've answered it. I answered it in my opening remarks. The explanatory document looked at the proposed amendments, and it is—
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Rachael Harder (Lethbridge)
2021-05-18 14:48
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Did this include the removal of proposed section 4.1?
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Hon. David Lametti (LaSalle—Émard—Verdun)
2021-05-18 14:48
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Yes, including.... Well, all the proposed amendments and the bill as tabled, according to the explanatory—
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Rachael Harder - 14:48
Hon. David Lametti - 14:48
CPC (AB)
Rachael Harder (Lethbridge)
2021-05-18 14:48
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Why won't you just address it? Why not just say, “Yes, 4.1 being removed still respects the charter”?
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Lib. (QC)
Hon. David Lametti (LaSalle—Émard—Verdun)
2021-05-18 14:48
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I have said that all of the proposed amendments, including that one, are consistent with the charter, according to the spirit of both the explanatory document and the charter statement.
Remember, Ms. Harder, I'm not here to give legal advice. I can't give you legal advice.
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Rachael Harder - 14:48
Hon. David Lametti - 14:49
CPC (AB)
Rachael Harder (Lethbridge)
2021-05-18 14:49
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Dr. Geist makes things very clear when he says, “There is simply no debating that” by removing section 4.1, “the bill now applies to user-generated content, since all audiovisual content is treated as a program under the act.”
Do you agree with that? Is that a correct statement?
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Lib. (QC)
Hon. David Lametti (LaSalle—Émard—Verdun)
2021-05-18 14:49
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I believe you're quoting Professor Michael Geist. I will defer to my colleague Minister Guilbeault to answer that question.
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Rachael Harder - 14:49
Scott Simms - 14:52
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Rachael Harder (Lethbridge)
2021-05-18 14:52
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Minister Lametti, I think as I've already expressed.... I know you to be very capable and very competent. I know you to be a strong defender of free expression online. You've certainly written to that effect and made statements to that effect, so I am very glad that you are here today.
I do have a question with regard to discoverability and its requirements within this bill. Again, Dr. Geist said that, in his view, the prioritization or deprioritization of speech by the government through the CRTC necessarily implicates freedom of expression. Based on the charter statement that you produced, would you agree with that?
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Lib. (QC)
Hon. David Lametti (LaSalle—Émard—Verdun)
2021-05-18 14:53
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As I have stated, the conclusion in both the charter statement and the explanatory document is that the bill is consistent with the charter. If you have a question about the applicability or a particular point of interpretation in the proposed bill, I will turn over the floor to Minister Guilbeault.
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CPC (AB)
Rachael Harder (Lethbridge)
2021-05-18 14:53
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I have a question with regard to the charter—as to whether or not section 2(b) of the charter is actually held up by this bill—so let me explain further.
If I go to an art exhibition owned by a private individual, I expect to walk in and the art to be curated for me. Some artists are going to be given the front room; other artists are going to be given a back room. The curators are going to choose which paintings come first and which are toward, maybe, the end of the exhibition. That curation is expected because I'm going into a private gallery, and they've offered to do that for me. At the same time, however, if the government was to come in and dictate to that gallery how the art should be hung, where it should be hung or which artist should be promoted, that is censorship in its finest. The same thing is happening on our social media platforms with Bill C-10.
How does that fit within section 2(b) of the charter: to have what we post online carefully curated and censored by a government arm, the CRTC?
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Lib. (QC)
Hon. David Lametti (LaSalle—Émard—Verdun)
2021-05-18 14:55
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As I mentioned in my opening statement, both the charter statement and the explanatory document looked at the various provisions of Bill C-10 and found that section 2(b) might be engaged, but there were various reasons given—which I outlined in my opening—to conclude that this was in conformity with section 2(b) of the charter.
Again, if there's a substantive application question, I will turn it over to Minister Guilbeault.
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Scott Simms - 14:55
Lib. (QC)
Anthony Housefather (Mount Royal)
2021-05-18 14:55
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Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
Minister Guilbeault, it's great to see you here again. Thank you.
Also, thank you to Mr. Ripley and the officials from Canadian Heritage.
I want to particularly thank Minister Lametti and express my personal appreciation to him, to Nathalie Drouin and to the team from the Department of Justice for being here today, which is outside the normal course.
Minister Lametti, this committee asked you to provide a document “focusing on whether the Committee's changes to the Bill...have impacted the initial Charter statement provided, in particular as relates to Section 2(b) of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms.” Somebody was trying to use a technical term in terms of what we're calling the document to tell us whether or not you have delivered. Do you believe the document you provided delivers exactly what the committee requested?
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Lib. (QC)
Hon. David Lametti (LaSalle—Émard—Verdun)
2021-05-18 14:56
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Yes, I do. It answers the question that was posed by the committee, which was whether the analysis contained in the original charter statement changed with the amendments. After the analysis, the explanatory document says that, no, that is not the case.
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Anthony Housefather - 14:56
Hon. David Lametti - 14:58
Lib. (QC)
Anthony Housefather (Mount Royal)
2021-05-18 14:59
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I know that you've said this already, but I just want to make sure we're all clear on this. In reference to the explanatory document, is it accurate to say that you have determined that the bill, as amended and as proposed to be amended, does not change the relevant considerations in the original charter statement?
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