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Committee Evidence - SECU-28
2021-05-05
Hon. David McGuinty - 16:28
CPC (AB)
Damien Kurek (Battle River—Crowfoot)
2021-05-05 16:29
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I appreciate that. It deals with such interconnected and complex issues.
I've noted that it's common to make mention of far-right groups rather than calling them what they are: hate groups. Certainly as I've watched Conservative and Liberal and other political parties' blogs and whatnot, you see the comments. There's hate coming from all sides, and it is absolutely tragic.
Is there any distinction, from your experience, between hate groups and the groups the report calls “ideologically motivated violent extremists”? Is there a differentiation?
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8560-432-1222-01 Annual Report of the Na ...
Extremism
Hate propaganda
National security
Lib. (ON)
Hon. David McGuinty (Ottawa South)
2021-05-05 16:30
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I know that there's a debate around the nomenclature and the choice of words to describe these. I really would like to ask my colleague Mr. Jorgensen to jump in here for a second. I know he is tracking that for the committee.
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Extremism
Hate propaganda
National security
Hon. John McKay - 16:30
Lib. (ON)
Hon. David McGuinty (Ottawa South)
2021-05-05 16:30
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Sure.
I was saying to Mr. Kurek that there is an important debate, I understand, around the nomenclature and the language that is appropriate. I think Mr. Jorgensen would be best placed to give us an idea of where that now lies and whether it is something that has reached the committee for deliberation. I do not recall, Mr. Chair.
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8560-432-1222-01 Annual Report of the Na ...
Extremism
Hate propaganda
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Sean Jorgensen
2021-05-05 16:31
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Thank you.
Very quickly, Mr. Kurek, I think there's a very clear distinction between extremists and.... Over time, extremists have been identified as doing everything from promoting women's rights to urging equality for Black people in the United States, for example. There is a very clear distinction between those people and people who take any type of extremist position into a violent realm.
This is where I think that CSIS has worked very hard with its international allies and partners to essentially focus on the behaviour and not necessarily the motivation. We know that it's ideological. That's what makes it, for example, terrorism.
However, I see your point. It's not right wing; it's not left wing. It is “what's the violent basis for that behaviour?“
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Extremism
Hate propaganda
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Damien Kurek - 16:31
Hon. David McGuinty - 16:38
Lib. (NS)
Darren Fisher (Dartmouth—Cole Harbour)
2021-05-05 16:39
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How about online hate legislation like we see in Australia? Do you see the benefit of taking action against this type of online violence before it has real world implications?
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Hate propaganda
Internet
National security
Lib. (ON)
Hon. David McGuinty (Ottawa South)
2021-05-05 16:39
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It's not something the committee has examined. It might very well be. It would be a very important issue for the public safety committee to examine, for example, whether that would that be a contributing factor to help....
I want to repeat the message: This isn't going away. It's expanding in reach, size, scope and seriousness. I think we're going to have to deal with this now collectively.
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Hate propaganda
Internet
National security
Hon. John McKay - 16:39
Hon. John McKay - 17:00
Lib. (QC)
Emmanuella Lambropoulos (Saint-Laurent)
2021-05-05 17:00
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Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Thank you very much, Mr. McGuinty and team, for being here with us today to answer our questions, and thanks for the work that you do on this committee to protect Canadians.
My question is about the spike in online hate and online hate groups. I can't help but notice the concern that people have with Bill C-10 and people's belief that it would infringe on their basic rights to express themselves and freedom of expression, which obviously our government has said it wouldn't do. Because this is the current fear, I'm wondering how our government could go forward. What would you recommend or what ways that could you see our government going forward with legislation to stop people who organize hatred online and push that kind of an agenda on social media and online?
In what ways can we limit the ability of these groups to have a negative influence on Canadians?
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C-10, An Act to amend the Broadcasting A ...
Hate propaganda
Internet
National security
Lib. (ON)
Hon. David McGuinty (Ottawa South)
2021-05-05 17:02
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Ms. Lambropoulos, I think you're raising the $64,000 question: What is the appropriate balance between free speech and when that free speech crosses a line and becomes something else? It's not something the committee examined in terms of what's the remedy or what's the recommendation. In fact, this report was agnostic this year on recommendations. It wanted to present the magnitude of the risks, but we really hope that a committee like public safety, for example, might apply its collective mind to figure out what the best way forward is.
We haven't examined Bill C-10. It's being debated. We haven't applied it to this particular set of challenges, but we may have more to say about this when we release our report on cyber-activities, which we hope will be by the summer. We may also have more to say about this when we are finished the review of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police's federal policing mandate, given their role as the national organization with the primary responsibility for national security investigations and organized crime, for example.
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Hate propaganda
Internet
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Hon. John McKay - 17:03
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Committee Evidence - CHPC-22
2021-03-29
Kevin Chan - 11:27
BQ (QC)
Martin Champoux (Drummond)
2021-03-29 11:28
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I will interpret that response as a no. So I have to conclude that you don't have any francophone moderators in Quebec. It was a simple question that you could have answered with yes or no, but you are telling me that you do not want to disclose this information. That's all right.
Mr. Chan, you remember the sad events in Christchurch. I was asking you if you control the content that goes out on your platform, because we're discussing what information Facebook allows, and you have some control over what is broadcast on your platform. For 17 minutes, the Christchurch killer broadcast his actions live on the Facebook platform.
Do you think you could have stopped that broadcast at that time?
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Content moderation
Facebook Inc.
Federal government
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Kevin Chan
2021-03-29 11:29
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We were able to detect it and remove it, ultimately, as you point out. Of course we regret the tragedy and we regret that we were not even faster. We have obviously learned a lot from that terrible incident, not just at Facebook. To be fair, we've worked across the sector to build systems and protocols—with governments as well—to ensure that the entire system actually works, not just on Facebook, but across companies, across platforms and with governments. We've built these protocols to move much faster should the regrettable and unfortunate thing happen again.
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Content moderation
Facebook Inc.
Federal government
Hate propaganda
Social networking sites
Martin Champoux - 11:29
Alain Rayes - 11:52
NDP (AB)
Heather McPherson (Edmonton Strathcona)
2021-03-29 11:52
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Thank you, Mr. Chair.
I just have some quick questions for the witnesses on some of the online hate regulations.
Mr. Chan, in your last appearance before the committee, you stated that Facebook supports legislation that sets standards to prohibit hateful content online and that the current self-regulation of platforms is not sustainable.
Do you agree that the government's delay in introducing legislation is exacerbating the spread of hateful content online?
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Facebook Inc.
Federal government
Hate propaganda
Regulation
Social networking sites
Kevin Chan
2021-03-29 11:53
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I really don't know, ma'am.
First of all, we haven't seen a proposal, so I don't want to speculate on what it may or may not include. I can tell you that at Facebook, we have rules in our community standards about harmful content. We are working hard every day to enforce our community standards.
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Facebook Inc.
Federal government
Hate propaganda
Regulation
Social networking sites
NDP (AB)
Heather McPherson (Edmonton Strathcona)
2021-03-29 11:53
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Do you think the government should provide for sufficiently strong monetary and criminal penalties to encourage platforms to act quickly to remove hateful content?
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Facebook Inc.
Federal government
Hate propaganda
Regulation
Social networking sites
Kevin Chan
2021-03-29 11:54
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Ma'am, again, I haven't seen any specific proposals. As I've said elsewhere, it is probably unwise to comment on something that hasn't been presented to anybody.
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Facebook Inc.
Federal government
Hate propaganda
Regulation
Social networking sites
NDP (AB)
Heather McPherson (Edmonton Strathcona)
2021-03-29 11:54
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Maybe just from your own perspective, even though you have [Technical difficulty—Editor] make sense for there to be strong monetary and criminal penalties, if social media platforms don't take off hateful comment in a timely manner?
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Facebook Inc.
Federal government
Hate propaganda
Regulation
Social networking sites
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