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I call this meeting to order.
Welcome, everyone, to meeting number 46 of the Standing Committee on Health.
We are meeting today pursuant to a request under Standing Order 106(4) by at least four members of the committee to discuss a request in this case to undertake a study on the state of long-term care in Canada.
We will go first to Ms. O'Connell to move her motion.
Ms. O'Connell, please go ahead.
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Jennifer O'Connell - 11:09
Sébastien Lemire - 11:19
Lib. (BC)
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We have a point of order.
Go ahead, Mr. Lemire.
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Sébastien Lemire - 11:20
Lib. (BC)
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Thank you, Mr. Lemire.
Could the clerk check that?
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Jean-François Pagé - 11:20
Lib. (BC)
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Monsieur Lemire, how long has this been a problem—for a couple of minutes or just now?
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Sébastien Lemire - 11:20
Lib. (BC)
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I'll ask Ms. O'Connell to check her mike boom.
Maybe you could back up a couple of paragraphs so that Mr. Lemire has the opportunity to hear all of your argument. Go ahead, please.
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Jennifer O'Connell - 11:21
Sébastien Lemire - 11:21
Lib. (BC)
Jennifer O'Connell - 11:21
Sébastien Lemire - 11:22
Sébastien Lemire - 11:22
Lib. (BC)
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Ms. O'Connell has the floor and she's able to keep it as long as she has something to say. Perhaps we should suspend and check the sound again.
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Jean-François Pagé - 11:23
Lib. (BC)
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The clerk advises that it should be good now.
Ms. O'Connell, if you want to carry on, please go ahead.
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Jennifer O'Connell - 11:23
Lib. (BC)
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You can do as you wish. You could say to the committee that you move the motion as read, if you wish.
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Jennifer O'Connell - 11:39
Lib. (BC)
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Thank you, Ms. O'Connell.
We'll go now to Ms. Sidhu.
Ms. Sidhu, go ahead, please.
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Sonia Sidhu - 11:40
Lib. (BC)
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Thank you, Ms. Sidhu.
We go now to Ms. Rempel Garner.
Go ahead, please, Ms. Rempel Garner.
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Hon. Michelle Rempel Garner - 12:05
Lib. (BC)
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Thank you, Ms. Rempel Garner.
That motion is not in order. We do have a motion on the floor.
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Hon. Michelle Rempel Garner - 12:10
Lib. (BC)
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A motion to adjourn the debate would have been in order, but this motion is not a motion to adjourn the debate—
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Hon. Michelle Rempel Garner - 12:10
Lib. (BC)
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Thank you.
The question is this: Shall the decision of the chair be sustained?
(Ruling of the chair overturned: nays 6; yeas 5)
The Chair: Very well, the committee has decided that the motion is in order.
Ms. Rempel Garner, would you please move your motion at this point?
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Hon. Michelle Rempel Garner - 12:12
Lib. (BC)
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I'm sorry. Could you remind me exactly what the wording of the motion is?
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Hon. Michelle Rempel Garner - 12:12
Lib. (BC)
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Thank you.
Is there any debate on this? I see a number of hands up. I don't know if they're up regarding this motion or not.
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Hon. Michelle Rempel Garner - 12:12
Lib. (BC)
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No, it's not a non-debatable motion. It's not a motion to adjourn the debate. It's a separate motion completely—
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Hon. Michelle Rempel Garner - 12:12
Hon. Michelle Rempel Garner - 12:12
Lib. (BC)
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I hear you. Thank you so much.
The question is this: Shall the decision of the chair that this is a debatable motion be sustained?
(Ruling of the chair overturned: nays 6; yeas 5)
The Chair: It looks like it's the will of the committee that this is not a debatable motion. Therefore, we will go to the vote.
(Motion agreed to: yeas 6; nays 5)
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Lib. (BC)
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Thank you, committee.
Ms. O'Connell, go ahead on a point of order, please.
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Jennifer O'Connell - 12:15
Jennifer O'Connell - 12:16
Lib. (BC)
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Ms. Rempel Garner, go ahead on the point of order.
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Hon. Michelle Rempel Garner - 12:16
Lib. (BC)
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Thank you, Ms. Rempel Garner.
I'll ask the clerk to weigh in on this matter, if it's something you can throw light on.
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Jean-François Pagé - 12:17
Lib. (BC)
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Yes, absolutely. We will suspend for a couple of minutes, at the call of the chair.
The meeting is suspended.
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Lib. (BC)
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Thank you, all.
The clerk has suggested that this was a legitimate dilatory motion. It's not one that I am familiar with, but we'll check and get back to you.
In any case, the committee has overruled the chair's decision and we shall carry on. The motion is that we carry on with our regular meetings. We do not have witnesses scheduled at this time. We will have to resume that process in due course.
Ms. Rempel Garner.
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Hon. Michelle Rempel Garner - 12:21
Lib. (BC)
Hon. Michelle Rempel Garner - 12:21
Lib. (BC)
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Thank you.
I think it would be inappropriate to do this because of the other witnesses we had been asked to speak with as well.
Is there any further discussion?
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Jennifer O'Connell - 12:21
Lib. (BC)
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Thank you, Ms. O'Connell.
Ms. Rempel Garner, go ahead on a point of order.
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Hon. Michelle Rempel Garner - 12:22
Lib. (BC)
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Thank you, Ms. Rempel Garner.
Ms. Sidhu, go ahead on the same point of order.
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Sonia Sidhu - 12:23
Don Davies - 12:23
Sonia Sidhu - 12:24