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View Blake Richards Profile
CPC (AB)
Okay.
In that same vein, is our law clerk with us at the moment? I'm not certain he's here, but quite often he is.
View Anthony Rota Profile
Lib. (ON)
Mr. Dufresne, you have the floor.
Philippe Dufresne
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Philippe Dufresne
2021-06-28 11:33
View Blake Richards Profile
CPC (AB)
Excellent, thanks.
I had a similar question for you, in relation to the resources available to you.
With the government making an application to the Federal Court, and a number of requests put to you to help determine the appropriateness of certain documents being released, based on orders of a variety of committees and the House itself, do you have the resources that you need at this time to manage both that Federal Court procedure against the House and those requests for documents?
Are you handling that Federal Court application in-house, or are you going to be engaging outside counsel?
Philippe Dufresne
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Philippe Dufresne
2021-06-28 11:34
Thank you, Mr. Richards.
It's certainly been a busy time for the office, but we have been able to provide the service and the advice. With regard to the litigation matter, we have the resources to deal with it. We have retained outside counsel and we'll be working very closely with them in terms of directing and giving instructions. This is something that I will continue to monitor very closely, but for the moment, and thanks to this board's earlier decision that had increased the resources for my office, I feel that I have the necessary resources to continue to provide the services.
Thank you.
View Blake Richards Profile
CPC (AB)
Great.
Thank you. I appreciate that update.
View Anthony Rota Profile
Lib. (ON)
Very good.
Are there any other comments? Is everyone in agreement with the recommendation that's been put forward?
Everybody is in accordance, very good.
We'll move on to number 7, request for exception.
Mr. Paquette, please go ahead.
Daniel Paquette
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Daniel Paquette
2021-06-28 11:35
Thank you, Mr. Chair.
I am now presenting a request for an exception from a member. In March 2021, the member submitted two external printing claims that exceeded the current policy limit of 5,000 copies.
You can recall that in spring 2020 there were temporary measures put in place to allow members to use external printers, in collaboration with our printing facility's team, for constituency mail in excess of 5,000 copies. These temporary measures did end on June 30, 2020, and since then the regular policies and use of House printing facilities for constituency mail have resumed.
The member did make use of the House services during this period of time, but given the board's policy in effect at the time when these costs were incurred by the member, in March 2021, the member in this case would be personally responsible for the cost of the copies in excess of 5,000 copies.
Given the current situation, the member has requested that the board make an exception and allow him to charge the full amount to his MOB. We are here to seek the board's direction on this matter.
Thank you.
View Anthony Rota Profile
Lib. (ON)
Mr. Rodriguez, do you have a question?
View Pablo Rodriguez Profile
Lib. (QC)
Yes, Mr. Chair.
I assume that, when our colleague did that at the time, he knew the rules and regulations of what was allowed and what was not allowed.
My concern with requests for exceptions like that is that they can be used by others to break the rules. People could end up saying that so‑and‑so broke the rules, and all he had to do was go to the Board of Internal Economy and get what he wanted.
To me, the rules are the rules, and people have to follow them. It's unfortunate, but I see no reason for an exception in this case.
View Anthony Rota Profile
Lib. (ON)
Okay, thank you.
Mrs. DeBellefeuille, you have the floor.
View Claude DeBellefeuille Profile
BQ (QC)
I agree with Mr. Rodriguez.
There also seems to be some confusion. The document before us indicates that the member did not have his salary taken. In his letter, the member says that it was taken. I would like to have that little confusion clarified.
I think everyone knows the rules. The arrangements for in‑house printing and the number of copies allowed are quite clear. For the time being, I'm not really in favour of granting this exception, unless you have other arguments to convince me.
View Anthony Rota Profile
Lib. (ON)
Okay.
Mr. Rodriguez, do you have any other comments? No? Okay.
Are there any further comments or questions?
Mr. Richards, go ahead.
View Blake Richards Profile
CPC (AB)
I guess what I can do is just add some additional information. I'm certainly sympathetic to some of the comments that have already been made in terms of having to be careful about making exceptions and making sure that those exceptions are appropriate.
I will just add, for the information of members in making this decision, that I have obviously talked to Mr. Vis about this situation, and my understanding of what happened here from his perspective is essentially that there was some communication with printing and mailing services and his office understood that the exceptions had been lifted for certain types of mailings, but I think they didn't realize that the exceptions had been lifted for the types of mailings they were doing. There certainly was a misunderstanding, and a bit of miscommunication possibly as well. That is kind of his version of what occurred. I thought it would be important for context for members.
Again, I do understand that we have to be very careful about when we make an exception. If that is helpful to members at all in making this decision, I wanted to make sure that Mr. Vis's understanding of the situation was put forward as well.
View Anthony Rota Profile
Lib. (ON)
Are there any other comments or questions?
My understanding, just from what I've heard, is that option 1 is what we go with, the status quo that Mr. Vis is responsible for the extra costs.
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