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Committee Evidence - INDU-144
2018-12-12
Dan Ruimy - 17:23
NDP (ON)
Brian Masse (Windsor West)
2018-12-12 17:23
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Thank you.
Thanks to the witnesses who are leaving here, and as well to Ms. Tarlton of Ticketmaster for being here.
My question to Ticketmaster is with regard to the resale of tickets and artists' compensation. In 2003 Ticketmaster purchased TicketsNow, and then there was a prohibition on the resale of tickets. However, last year the Ticketmaster parent company, Live Nation, along with Maple Leaf Sports and Entertainment, lobbied the Ontario Government to change its policy for resale, which had been in place for 30 years. Since that took place, it has cost consumers millions of dollars.
I'd like to know how much Ticketmaster has profited from this new policy change and how much Maple Leaf Sports and Entertainment has profited. Also, to compare, how much have artists profited from this change in policy?
That's what I think I'd like to know to start with, please.
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Artists
Copyright Act
Corporate income
Income and wages
Statutory review
Ticketmaster Canada
Patti-Anne Tarlton - 17:24
NDP (ON)
Brian Masse (Windsor West)
2018-12-12 17:24
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I mean the sale of tickets now has increased profit margins, so where is the distribution of those profits and that resale money going? I'm wondering how much of that split is going to Ticketmaster or Maple Leaf Sports and Entertainment—I know you worked there before—and to artists, now that millions more dollars are being brought in for shows.
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Copyright Act
Corporate income
Statutory review
Ticketmaster Canada
Patti-Anne Tarlton - 17:25
NDP (ON)
Brian Masse (Windsor West)
2018-12-12 17:26
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I'm not looking for that. With the increased revenue streams coming in, I'm looking for how much the artists or creators have benefited from resale or secondary ticket exchanges—“primary”, “secondary”, or whatever terminology is fine with me—as there has been more money made off their performances. Do they benefit, and how can it be quantified?
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Copyright Act
Statutory review
Ticketmaster Canada
Patti-Anne Tarlton - 17:26
NDP (ON)
Brian Masse (Windsor West)
2018-12-12 17:27
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What percentage of the resale or secondary market does Ticketmaster give to artists for a ticket? You put them out if you're a holder, and then they're resold for something if it's a hot show or whatever it might be. How much does the artist get percentage-wise of that resale as the market price then escalates?
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Copyright Act
Statutory review
Ticketmaster Canada
Patti-Anne Tarlton - 17:27
NDP (ON)
Brian Masse (Windsor West)
2018-12-12 17:27
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No. You would expect, then, that smaller shows would be differently compensated for resale than larger shows? Is that generally what you're saying—that every act is different in terms of what deal they can cut?
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Copyright Act
Statutory review
Ticketmaster Canada
Patti-Anne Tarlton - 17:28
NDP (ON)
Brian Masse (Windsor West)
2018-12-12 17:28
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Investing in technology is fine. That only helps your company and your process, because it controls the actual resale market. It now goes on Internet devices and so forth, as opposed to the traditional, for the person on the street.
What I'm interested in, though, is whether there's a difference for the actual creators. You're investing, obviously, to get a profit on return, but on the street the artists aren't getting anything from that resale. Putting aside the whole ethical issue of the resale of tickets virtually before they even enter the marketplace, what are artists getting out of this? Are they on their own individually to enter into separate contracts from Ticketmaster? Is that it? Do they have their own individual, separate contracts, whereby they'll each get maybe 1%, 10%, or 20%? What types of thresholds are we looking at for artists to be compensated for this resale?
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Copyright Act
Statutory review
Ticketmaster Canada
Patti-Anne Tarlton - 17:29
NDP (ON)
Brian Masse (Windsor West)
2018-12-12 17:29
...More
Does Ticketmaster withhold certain sales of tickets, then, to actually watch the price increase or decrease? You're saying you release all those tickets, and then...?
You lobbied to change a system here, and I want to know how much artists are actually benefiting from this, especially if other prices are arranged. Are you confirming that it's up to each individual act or artist to actually cut their own deal? What would those thresholds be? I'm not talking about a specific deal. Are some getting 100% of the increase in the cost? Are some getting 1%? Is it 50%? What's happening with this?
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Copyright Act
Statutory review
Ticketmaster Canada
Patti-Anne Tarlton - 17:30
NDP (ON)
Brian Masse (Windsor West)
2018-12-12 17:30
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Why don't you just give them 100%, then? You got your cut at the beginning of the thing. If you're going to resell something, why wouldn't artists get the full increase indexed?
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Copyright Act
Statutory review
Ticketmaster Canada
Dan Ruimy - 17:30
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Committee Evidence - INDU-143
2018-12-10
Dan Ruimy - 15:30
NDP (ON)
Brian Masse (Windsor West)
2018-12-10 15:31
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That you know of.
Voices: Oh, oh!
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Copyright Act
Copyright and copyright law
Statutory review
Dan Ruimy - 15:31
Dan Ruimy - 16:16
NDP (ON)
Brian Masse (Windsor West)
2018-12-10 16:16
...More
Thank you.
The USMCA changes things in a couple of parameters. How does it change your presentations here?
I was just in Washington and there's no clear path for this to get passed. We could be back to the original NAFTA, and if that goes away then we're back to the original free trade, but that requires Trump to do a six-month exit and notification, and there's debate about whether or not that's on the presidential side or whether it's Congress and there will be lawyers involved and so forth. We're at a point now where we have a potential deal in place. Vegas is making the odds about whether it's going to pass or not.
Maybe we can go around the table here in terms of how you think it affects your presentations here and our review. We're going to have to report back with it basically being...and there are many with the opinion that Congress won't accept it because they don't have enough concessions from Canada.
I put that out there because it's something that changed during the process of our discussions from the beginning of this study to where we are right now, and again where we'll have to give advice to the minister.
We can start on the left side here and move to the right.
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Canada-United States-Mexico Agreement
Copyright Act
Copyright and copyright law
Statutory review
Catherine Lovrics - 16:17
NDP (ON)
Brian Masse (Windsor West)
2018-12-10 16:18
...More
You're pretty well split within an organization about the benefits and detractions from—
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Canada-United States-Mexico Agreement
Copyright Act
Copyright and copyright law
Statutory review
Catherine Lovrics - 16:18
NDP (ON)
Brian Masse (Windsor West)
2018-12-10 16:18
...More
Would it be fair to say, though, it has significant consequences for opinions on both sides? It's not a minor thing. It's a significant one.
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Canada-United States-Mexico Agreement
Copyright Act
Copyright and copyright law
Statutory review
Catherine Lovrics - 16:19
Casey Chisick - 16:19
NDP (ON)
Brian Masse (Windsor West)
2018-12-10 16:20
...More
If it was not to be extended, would that change your position on other matters or is it isolated to basically the 50 and 70?
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Copyright Act
Copyright and copyright law
Statutory review
Casey Chisick - 16:20
Michael Geist - 16:20
NDP (ON)
Brian Masse (Windsor West)
2018-12-10 16:20
...More
Yes.
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Canada-United States-Mexico Agreement
Copyright Act
Copyright and copyright law
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Michael Geist - 16:20
Ysolde Gendreau - 16:22
NDP (ON)
Brian Masse (Windsor West)
2018-12-10 16:24
...More
We all know the G7 plays with rules.
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Copyright Act
Copyright and copyright law
Group of Seven
Setting of standards
Statutory review
Dan Ruimy - 16:24
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