//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/88404AlupaClarkeAlupa-ClarkeBeauport—LimoilouConservative CaucusQuebec//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/42/ClarkeAlupa_CPC.jpgInterventionMr. Alupa Clarke (Beauport—Limoilou, CPC): (1620)[English]Thank you, Mr. Vice-Chair. Mr. Walbourne and Ms. Hynes, it's very good to see you here.I would like to start with the joint personnel support unit. This is directly in your branch, as the ombudsman of DND. Am I wrong or right that there are two end results possible with JPSU? You either rehabilitate through the services or you get out of the army. My understanding is that we keep it as an unknown end, for the most part. It's not clear from the beginning. But should there be a diagnosis right at the beginning that this member will most probably never come back and thus we should engage right away in filling in the forms and getting ready for the release? That way, as soon as the two years end, the benefits would start coming in and the services would start right away.I might be wrong, but it seems to me like there's an unknown waiting time.Joint Personnel Support UnitMedical discharge from armed ForcesMedical rehabilitationService deliveryTransition programsVeterans45443794544380454438145443824544383RobertKitchenSouris—Moose MountainGaryWalbourne//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/88404AlupaClarkeAlupa-ClarkeBeauport—LimoilouConservative CaucusQuebec//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/42/ClarkeAlupa_CPC.jpgInterventionMr. Alupa Clarke: (1620)[English]Okay. Did you ever hear any comments on the VAC and the DND staff? Do they work closely together? How is the relationship? Do you have anything to say about that in the JPSU?Department of Veterans AffairsInterdepartmental relationsJoint Personnel Support UnitMedical rehabilitationService deliveryVeterans4544387GaryWalbourneGaryWalbourne//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/88404AlupaClarkeAlupa-ClarkeBeauport—LimoilouConservative CaucusQuebec//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/42/ClarkeAlupa_CPC.jpgInterventionMr. Alupa Clarke: (1620)[English]Do you think the JPSU should not be on the base? As Madam Lockhart said, it was a problem for many in the military to go to the base.Joint Personnel Support UnitMedical rehabilitationService deliveryVeterans4544390GaryWalbourneGaryWalbourne//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/88404AlupaClarkeAlupa-ClarkeBeauport—LimoilouConservative CaucusQuebec//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/42/ClarkeAlupa_CPC.jpgInterventionMr. Alupa Clarke: (1705)[English]Thank you very much, Mr. Chair. Mr. Bungay, if I correctly understood, you said there are two problems with the JPSU. First, it's on the base. Second, they are closed-minded; for example, they don't accept your services.Now the question is for everyone, starting with Monsieur Doucette, please. What's wrong with JPSU, besides those two things?Joint Personnel Support UnitMedical rehabilitationService deliveryVeterans453965245396534539654NeilEllisBay of QuinteFredDoucette//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/88404AlupaClarkeAlupa-ClarkeBeauport—LimoilouConservative CaucusQuebec//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/42/ClarkeAlupa_CPC.jpgInterventionMr. Alupa Clarke: (1705)[English]The JPSU, please.Joint Personnel Support UnitMedical rehabilitationService deliveryVeterans4539656FredDoucetteFredDoucette//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/88404AlupaClarkeAlupa-ClarkeBeauport—LimoilouConservative CaucusQuebec//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/42/ClarkeAlupa_CPC.jpgInterventionMr. Alupa Clarke: (1125)[Translation]Thank you very much.Ms. Langlois, you are responsible for the joint personnel support unit. Someone told me that there were not enough senior military personnel, officers, in that unit. Has that problem been solved?Integrated Personnel Support CentresJoint Personnel Support UnitOfficersService deliveryVeterans443401844340194434020Anne-MariePellerinMarie-FranceLanglois//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/88404AlupaClarkeAlupa-ClarkeBeauport—LimoilouConservative CaucusQuebec//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/42/ClarkeAlupa_CPC.jpgInterventionMr. Alupa Clarke (Beauport—Limoilou, CPC): (1135)[Translation]Thank you, Mr. Chair.Welcome, Mr. Ombudsman, Ms. Hynes. I am very pleased that you are appearing before the committee this morning. Thank you for the exceptional work you are doing. Mr. Ombudsman, you mentioned integrated personnel support centres, or IPSCs. Were you talking about non-military personnel? Did I understand what you said correctly? Integrated Personnel Support CentresJoint Personnel Support UnitService deliveryVeterans442756044275614427562NeilEllisBay of QuinteGaryWalbourne//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/88404AlupaClarkeAlupa-ClarkeBeauport—LimoilouConservative CaucusQuebec//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/42/ClarkeAlupa_CPC.jpgInterventionMr. Alupa Clarke: (1135)[Translation]Some veterans have said that there are not enough senior military people. In those integrated personnel support centres, there were a lot of people in the ranks, but not many officers. I have been told that the lack of senior military people indirectly leads to suicides, in the sense that there are not enough superiors to take direct charge of the soldiers and to supervise them closely. An officer cannot really observe who among his troops is not doing well when he has to handle 50 people rather than 30, which is the normal number for a lieutenant, for example.Are you aware of those problems? If so, what have you told the army so that they can rectify the situation?Integrated Personnel Support CentresJoint Personnel Support UnitOfficersService deliverySuicidesVeterans44275644427565GaryWalbourneGaryWalbourne//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/88404AlupaClarkeAlupa-ClarkeBeauport—LimoilouConservative CaucusQuebec//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/42/ClarkeAlupa_CPC.jpgInterventionMr. Alupa Clarke: (1220)[English]Yes, we heard about it a lot.Joint Personnel Support UnitService deliveryVeterans4348863LouisCuppensLGenLouisCuppensLGen//www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/members/88404AlupaClarkeAlupa-ClarkeBeauport—LimoilouConservative CaucusQuebec//www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Parliamentarians/Images/OfficialMPPhotos/42/ClarkeAlupa_CPC.jpgInterventionMr. Alupa Clarke: (1220)[English]Okay.Joint Personnel Support UnitService deliveryVeterans4348865LouisCuppensLGenNeilEllisBay of QuinteINTERVENTIONParliament and SessionDiscussed TopicProcedural TermCommitteePerson SpeakingParticipation TypeSearchResults per pageOrder byTarget search languageSide by SideMaximum returned rowsPagePUBLICATION TYPE