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View David de Burgh Graham Profile
Lib. (QC)
Earlier, we were talking about passwords. Nowadays, we see two-factor authentication being used a lot more for bank accounts. Could the same thing be done for social insurance numbers?
View Michel Picard Profile
Lib. (QC)
View Michel Picard Profile
2019-07-15 14:23
I'd like to revisit the issue of a unique identifier.
Other models exist. On other committees, we've talked about the popular Estonian model, I believe. It's a system that's in line with our discussions on open banking. All the information is centralized and people can access it using a unique identification number.
At the end of the day, no matter what you call it, a social insurance number is a unique identification number, so it's important to understand the system's limitations. It's all well and good to have the ultimate ultra-modern system, but if a single unique identifier is assigned to an individual, the information will always be vulnerable if someone gets a hold of it.
View Francis Drouin Profile
Lib. (ON)
Thank you very much, Mr. Chair.
I thank all witnesses for appearing before the committee on short notice.
I should mention that I am one of the victims of the data breach at Desjardins, as are many of my constituents.
Ms. Boisjoly, you referred to the online petition asking that the social insurance numbers of those affected be changed. Can you explain to the committee why that would not be done and why it would only complicate things without providing better security for Canadians?
View Francis Drouin Profile
Lib. (ON)
In other words, changing our social insurance number does not necessarily protect our personal information.
Why is another social insurance number issued in cases where fraud has been proven?
View Francis Drouin Profile
Lib. (ON)
Here is a more practical question.
Like everyone in the same situation as myself, I see a risk of fraud. How then can I advise the authorities, whether at Revenue Canada or Service Canada, that my social insurance number may perhaps be used fraudulently? Can I call Service Canada to advise them of that? Is there an internal process that allows the public to do that?
View Francis Drouin Profile
Lib. (ON)
Okay.
The website lists 29 cases in which Canadians are allowed to give out their social insurance numbers. To banking institutions and other entities, for example.
What does Service Canada do so that Canadians know when they should give out their social insurance number and when they should not? What recourse is possible when an organization asks for a social insurance number when it should not do so?
View David de Burgh Graham Profile
Lib. (QC)
Thank you.
Ms. Boisjoly, earlier you heard the people from Desjardins talk about the need to rethink the social insurance number system. Is research being done on the future of the social insurance number?
View David de Burgh Graham Profile
Lib. (QC)
Among the data that was taken, we know that there was a lot of information, not just social insurance numbers. There were also addresses, phone numbers, and so on. You have spoken several times about additional information to authenticate the social insurance number. Is all this information included in the data that was taken?
View David de Burgh Graham Profile
Lib. (QC)
Is there a way to indicate somewhere that the social insurance number is no longer valid and then remove the liability associated with it?
If I change my social insurance number and I am still responsible for the old one, in my opinion, it doesn't make sense. Can you tell us more about this?
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