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Committee Evidence - SECU-171
2019-07-15
André Boucher - 14:21
Lib. (QC)
David de Burgh Graham (Laurentides—Labelle)
2019-07-15 14:22
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Earlier, we were talking about passwords. Nowadays, we see two-factor authentication being used a lot more for bank accounts. Could the same thing be done for social insurance numbers?
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Computer crime
Desjardins Group
Privacy and data protection
Social insurance numbers
André Boucher - 14:23
Lib. (QC)
Michel Picard (Montarville)
2019-07-15 14:23
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I'd like to revisit the issue of a unique identifier.
Other models exist. On other committees, we've talked about the popular Estonian model, I believe. It's a system that's in line with our discussions on open banking. All the information is centralized and people can access it using a unique identification number.
At the end of the day, no matter what you call it, a social insurance number is a unique identification number, so it's important to understand the system's limitations. It's all well and good to have the ultimate ultra-modern system, but if a single unique identifier is assigned to an individual, the information will always be vulnerable if someone gets a hold of it.
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Computer crime
Desjardins Group
Privacy and data protection
Social insurance numbers
André Boucher - 14:24
Pierre Paul-Hus - 15:03
Lib. (ON)
Francis Drouin (Glengarry—Prescott—Russell)
2019-07-15 15:03
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Thank you very much, Mr. Chair.
I thank all witnesses for appearing before the committee on short notice.
I should mention that I am one of the victims of the data breach at Desjardins, as are many of my constituents.
Ms. Boisjoly, you referred to the online petition asking that the social insurance numbers of those affected be changed. Can you explain to the committee why that would not be done and why it would only complicate things without providing better security for Canadians?
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Computer crime
Desjardins Group
Privacy and data protection
Social insurance numbers
Elise Boisjoly - 15:04
Lib. (ON)
Francis Drouin (Glengarry—Prescott—Russell)
2019-07-15 15:07
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In other words, changing our social insurance number does not necessarily protect our personal information.
Why is another social insurance number issued in cases where fraud has been proven?
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Computer crime
Desjardins Group
Privacy and data protection
Social insurance numbers
Elise Boisjoly - 15:07
Lib. (ON)
Francis Drouin (Glengarry—Prescott—Russell)
2019-07-15 15:08
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Here is a more practical question.
Like everyone in the same situation as myself, I see a risk of fraud. How then can I advise the authorities, whether at Revenue Canada or Service Canada, that my social insurance number may perhaps be used fraudulently? Can I call Service Canada to advise them of that? Is there an internal process that allows the public to do that?
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Computer crime
Desjardins Group
Privacy and data protection
Social insurance numbers
Elise Boisjoly - 15:08
Lib. (ON)
Francis Drouin (Glengarry—Prescott—Russell)
2019-07-15 15:09
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Okay.
The website lists 29 cases in which Canadians are allowed to give out their social insurance numbers. To banking institutions and other entities, for example.
What does Service Canada do so that Canadians know when they should give out their social insurance number and when they should not? What recourse is possible when an organization asks for a social insurance number when it should not do so?
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Computer crime
Desjardins Group
Privacy and data protection
Social insurance numbers
Elise Boisjoly - 15:10
Hon. John McKay - 15:18
NDP (QC)
Matthew Dubé (Beloeil—Chambly)
2019-07-15 15:18
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Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Thank you all for taking the time to come here today.
Ms. Boisjoly, I was struck by one point in your reply to Mr. Drouin. You said that a personal data breach does not lead to identity theft. That is basically what brings us here today. Canadians want to avoid identity theft, of course; it’s their main concern. I have some questions about it.
You said that people should report suspicious activities associated with a social insurance number. I am a federal lawmaker and I don’t know what a suspicious activity associated with a social insurance number is. I have never been a victim of fraud, thank heavens, and the same goes for the people around me, touch wood. However, I do know people who have been victims. They find out when they receive a bill for a cellphone they do not have, or for a Canadian Tire credit card that they never applied for. They end up with debts and obligations that are not theirs.
Can you tell me exactly what a suspicious activity associated with a social insurance number is?
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Computer crime
Desjardins Group
Privacy and data protection
Social insurance numbers
Elise Boisjoly - 15:19
Elise Boisjoly - 15:21
NDP (QC)
Matthew Dubé (Beloeil—Chambly)
2019-07-15 15:21
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As for getting a new social insurance number, I have a little difficulty understanding. Basically, the argument is that it becomes complicated for people. In principle, a social insurance number is issued for reasons of efficiency. A unique identifier makes transactions with government agencies easier.
Forgive me if this analogy may not be an exact one. If I see a problem with my credit card today, the bank or the company that issued it is still able to transfer a balance or to link the legitimate transactions on my credit card that has been used fraudulently and the new one it sent to me.
Why would a financial institution be able to do that, while you are not able to say that someone’s social insurance number has been compromised and to give them a new number? A former employer, for example, might have to take care of questions about that person’s pension. Knowing that is the same person, why are you not able to link the previous social insurance number to a new one? You may perhaps have to do some additional checking, given that the number has been compromised. But I am still having a little difficulty understanding why you can’t do it.
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Computer crime
Desjardins Group
Privacy and data protection
Social insurance numbers
Elise Boisjoly - 15:23
NDP (QC)
Matthew Dubé (Beloeil—Chambly)
2019-07-15 15:23
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I am sorry to interrupt you, but, if I lose my credit card, it does not necessarily mean that it has been stolen. It may have fallen down a sewer somewhere, meaning that it will never be seen or used again. I would still call my bank, Visa or whomever, to ask them to cancel the card. I would still keep checking and I would have some peace of mind, knowing that I am protected.
Why not use the same logic for victims of breaches of personal data, especially ones that are all over the news? To make sure they are protected, people want to dot all the i's and cross all the t's that they can. They change their credit cards and everything, as they do when they lose their wallets. Why not proceed in the same way?
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Computer crime
Desjardins Group
Privacy and data protection
Social insurance numbers
Elise Boisjoly - 15:24
Hon. John McKay - 16:53
Lib. (QC)
David de Burgh Graham (Laurentides—Labelle)
2019-07-15 16:54
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Thank you.
Ms. Boisjoly, earlier you heard the people from Desjardins talk about the need to rethink the social insurance number system. Is research being done on the future of the social insurance number?
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Computer crime
Desjardins Group
Privacy and data protection
Social insurance numbers
Elise Boisjoly - 16:54
Lib. (QC)
David de Burgh Graham (Laurentides—Labelle)
2019-07-15 16:55
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Among the data that was taken, we know that there was a lot of information, not just social insurance numbers. There were also addresses, phone numbers, and so on. You have spoken several times about additional information to authenticate the social insurance number. Is all this information included in the data that was taken?
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Computer crime
Desjardins Group
Privacy and data protection
Social insurance numbers
Elise Boisjoly - 16:56
Elise Boisjoly - 16:58
Lib. (QC)
David de Burgh Graham (Laurentides—Labelle)
2019-07-15 16:58
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Is there a way to indicate somewhere that the social insurance number is no longer valid and then remove the liability associated with it?
If I change my social insurance number and I am still responsible for the old one, in my opinion, it doesn't make sense. Can you tell us more about this?
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Computer crime
Desjardins Group
Privacy and data protection
Social insurance numbers
Elise Boisjoly - 16:58
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