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View Alupa Clarke Profile
CPC (QC)
Okay. From what I understand, Ms. O'Donnell would rather use her 10 minutes of speaking time all at once.
Mr. Tremblay, we will start with you. You have 10 minutes. We will then suspend the meeting so that my colleagues and I can go to the House to vote and then we will come back here.
Mr. Rioux, did you have a comment?
View Alupa Clarke Profile
CPC (QC)
Ms. O'Donnell, are you free from noon until 1 p.m.?
View Alupa Clarke Profile
CPC (QC)
Thank you very much.
We are continuing our study on the modernization of the Official Languages Act, pursuant to Standing Order 108(3)(f). Today, we are pleased to welcome Michel Tremblay, the general director of the Société Santé en français or SSF and, by video conference from Montreal, Lorraine O'Donnell, coordinator-researcher for the Quebec English-Speaking Communities Research Network at Concordia University.
Before we move on, I would like to know whether we have unanimous consent to proceed in the manner on which we just agreed.
Yes? Thank you.
Mr. Tremblay, the time is yours.
View Alupa Clarke Profile
CPC (QC)
You have one minute left, Mr. Tremblay.
View Alupa Clarke Profile
CPC (QC)
Thank you for your presentation, Mr. Tremblay.
I would like to remind everyone here and Ms. O'Donnell that we need to go to the House to vote now. That is part of parliamentary life, but we like it. Thank you for your understanding.
We will meet back here after the vote. Ms. O'Donnell, you can give your presentation from noon until 12:10 p.m. We will wrap things up at 12:50 p.m. because the members of our committee really need to meet in camera to deal with some upcoming issues.
The sitting was suspended.
View Alupa Clarke Profile
CPC (QC)
Without further delay, we will hear from Ms. O'Donnell from Concordia University.
Ms. O'Donnell, as planned, you have 10 minutes for your presentation. The time is yours.
View Alupa Clarke Profile
CPC (QC)
Thank you very much, Madame O'Donnell. You were able to get through your opening remarks. We see the depth of your knowledge in those kinds of issues that interest us at the committee.
We will start the round of questioning with Madame Boucher for six minutes.
View Alupa Clarke Profile
CPC (QC)
Mr. Samson, you have six minutes.
View Alupa Clarke Profile
CPC (QC)
You have 10 seconds left.
View Alupa Clarke Profile
CPC (QC)
We need to move on.
Mr. Choquette, the floor is yours.
View Alupa Clarke Profile
CPC (QC)
Thank you, Mr. Choquette.
Ms. Lambropoulos, you now have the floor.
View Alupa Clarke Profile
CPC (QC)
Thank you very much, Madam O'Donnell.
Now we have two rounds left of four minutes each.
Mrs. Fortier.
View Alupa Clarke Profile
CPC (QC)
Thank you.
Mr. Généreux, you now have four minutes.
View Alupa Clarke Profile
CPC (QC)
Very well.
I would like to thank our two witnesses who gave their presentations in spite of the interruption for voting.
Mr. Tremblay, please continue your good work on the official languages in the health sector in order to help French-language communities in particular.
View Alupa Clarke Profile
CPC (QC)
Madame O'Donnell, thank you very much for your time and understanding throughout our session.
This is just a reminder for both of you that, if you have any documents you want us to take a look at or supplementary information, you can always send it to the clerk of the committee, and she will distribute it to us through email.
Thank you very much.
I will suspend now so we can go in camera, which is very important. We have 10 minutes of committee business to do.
The meeting is suspended.
[Proceedings continue in camera.]
View Alupa Clarke Profile
CPC (QC)
Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Good morning, Mr. Johnson and Mr. Dupuis.
It is always an honour to have you at the committee as the main representatives of all of the country's francophone groups. I don't think I'll offend anyone by saying that, as you just said that the bill was a compendium of all of the requests from everywhere in the country.
I have eight questions to ask, and to the extent that that is possible, I would like you to answer them by yes or no. I think you will see that they won't require much expounding.
On page 32 of the document I have here, in Part Vll, section 41.3, entitled “Duty with respect to data collection”, are you alluding to Statistics Canada?
View Alupa Clarke Profile
CPC (QC)
Yes. So, basically, you want the law to include an obligation that Statistics Canada carry out a proper census.
View Alupa Clarke Profile
CPC (QC)
Thank you.
For my second question, let's go to section 41.5 on page 33, entitled “Duty when leasing a federal building or federal real property in the National Capital Region”.
I'm not sure I understand. Does the duty apply to the physical location or to the people in it?
View Alupa Clarke Profile
CPC (QC)
I see. I hadn't understood properly. I thought it was about posting signs on the premises.
Let's go to the next page for my third question. This won't be a yes or no question.
Paragraph 43(1)(c) states:
(c) encourage provincial governments to adopt measures that foster progress toward the equality of status or use of English and French;
How would you like to do that?
View Alupa Clarke Profile
CPC (QC)
I see. So that can be done by adding language clauses. We are not talking about encouragement.
View Alupa Clarke Profile
CPC (QC)
On page 35, paragraph 43.1(1) is entitled “Duty to support instruction in the language of the official language minority communities”.
Is the objective here to broaden the rights holders principle?
View Alupa Clarke Profile
CPC (QC)
I see. That's a very good answer.
For my fifth question, let's go to page 36. Paragraph 43.1(5), entitled “Use of Funds'', says the following:
(5) The minister shall ensure that the funds transferred to the provinces are spent in the manner provided for in the negotiated agreements.
Does this refer back directly to the language clauses?
View Alupa Clarke Profile
CPC (QC)
Very well.
Do I understand correctly that through 43.2(1), you wish to include the Official Languages in Education Program, OLEP, in the act?
View Alupa Clarke Profile
CPC (QC)
You may not have included the acronym OLEP here directly, but that is your objective, correct?
View Alupa Clarke Profile
CPC (QC)
I'll go on to my seventh question.
In proposed paragraph 43.4(1) of the bill, on the collective rights of the New Brunswick communities, was your objective to attach financial reality to section 16 of the Constitution Act, 1982? Aside from indigenous peoples, the Constitution only recognizes the Acadian people.
View Alupa Clarke Profile
CPC (QC)
If you say so.
Quebeckers have not managed to obtain that recognition, to date. This would be a great victory for the Acadians and I'm very happy for them. However, is your objective here to codify that recognition in the act so that the money will follow?
View Alupa Clarke Profile
CPC (QC)
Okay.
Let me go on to my next question, on proposed paragraph 43.14(1) of the bill, on page 41 of your document.
These are my last questions, because I think my time must be almost up.
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