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Committee Evidence - NDDN-63
2015-06-17
Thomas Lawson - 17:07
Lib. (BC)
Joyce Murray (Vancouver Quadra)
2015-06-17 17:07
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Okay, thank you.
What could have possessed you to make the comments you made to Peter Mansbridge, General?
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External Review into Sexual Misconduct a ...
Sexual harassment
Thomas Lawson - 17:07
Lib. (BC)
Joyce Murray (Vancouver Quadra)
2015-06-17 17:08
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Thank you, General. I heard that explanation earlier. I thought there may be some clarity. It was not a slip of the tongue. It was clearly a belief because you reinforced it several times.
My question would be.... I have to say that it's not since I was a young teenager that the idea or the excuse would be made that boys just can't help themselves. That's the kind of thing people used to say 35 or 45 years ago, so this is a very interesting excuse for sexual harassment and assault.
How do you think your comments regarding sexual violence in the military might affect those serving in Operations Impact and Reassurance?
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Sexual harassment
Thomas Lawson - 17:09
Lib. (BC)
Joyce Murray (Vancouver Quadra)
2015-06-17 17:09
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Okay. I would like to explore the idea of the trust and confidence of the troops that the CDS must command in order to be in that role. I would like to ask the minister whether he believes that the comments and the attitude, and what I would consider the normalization of inappropriate sexual behaviour and hostility, might affect the trust in command and the confidence of the troops, especially women and LGBTQ military members.
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Hon. Jason Kenney - 17:10
Lib. (BC)
Joyce Murray (Vancouver Quadra)
2015-06-17 17:10
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Well, no, it's a question.
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Hon. Jason Kenney - 17:10
Lib. (BC)
Joyce Murray (Vancouver Quadra)
2015-06-17 17:10
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Exactly, so my question is this. Do you believe that your Chief of the Defence Staff can still command the trust and confidence of women and LGBTQ armed forces members?
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Hon. Jason Kenney - 17:10
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Committee Evidence - NDDN-60
2015-05-25
Hon. Peter Kent - 16:16
Lib. (BC)
Joyce Murray (Vancouver Quadra)
2015-05-25 16:16
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Mr. Chair, I'd just like to echo Mr. Harris' comments of disappointment that this meeting was scheduled at a time that neither the minister nor the Chief of the Defence Staff could be here. The contradiction in their responses to Madame Deschamps' report created uncertainty in all our minds as to a real commitment to take action. As Madame Deschamps noted, leaders' acknowledging the importance and seriousness of this issue I would say was compromised by the contradictory responses, and we would like to have been able to ask those questions.
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Hon. Peter Kent - 16:17
Lib. (BC)
Joyce Murray (Vancouver Quadra)
2015-05-25 16:17
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Thank you.
Major-General Whitecross, you mentioned 25 members of the strategic response team. Can you tell me what percentage are women and what percentage are from the LGBTQ community, who essentially have been some of the primary victims of the culture of misogyny according to Madame Deschamps?
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Christine Whitecross - 16:17
Lib. (BC)
Joyce Murray (Vancouver Quadra)
2015-05-25 16:17
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Okay, thank you. I'd appreciate that.
The initial Chief of the Defence Staff initiating directive, which was footnoted on the April 30 response action plan, places a number of restrictions on you. One of them is the assumption that the current sexual misconduct and investigation and justice system authorities will remain unchanged. Have you received a replacement directive to the one that was your orders, or are the directives drafted on February 25 still in place?
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Christine Whitecross - 16:18
Lib. (BC)
Joyce Murray (Vancouver Quadra)
2015-05-25 16:19
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I'm taking it from your comment that the initiating directive is still in place, the one that appeared to be behind the lack of fully accepting all of their recommendations. Eight of them were accepted in principle. For example, the directive stated that it would be the Canadian Armed Forces that would be in charge of the centre of accountability, which was contrary to Madame Deschamps' recommendation. I'm disappointed to hear that that initiating directive has not been rescinded or replaced by another.
Of the eight recommendations that were initially accepted in principle in your report, in other words, not fully accepted nor were they rejected, and certainly no one from this committee ever implied that they were contrary to the committee member's previous assertion.... Can you tell me which of the other eight have been fully accepted, or are they still accepted in principle?
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Christine Whitecross - 16:20
Lib. (BC)
Joyce Murray (Vancouver Quadra)
2015-05-25 16:20
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Okay.
I'm taking that to mean they're accepted in principle, which was the confusion in the first place. There may be some elements that were critical to Madame Deschamps' recommendations that don't find their way into the final framework that is put together, which I'm disappointed by.
Madame Deschamps, prior to your starting your external review, you were, in my opinion, hamstrung in a number of areas. For instance, the way the Canadian military police and judge advocate general's office handled sexual assault reports was excluded from scrutiny, meaning that the review was not able to examine the systematic failure to investigate or prosecute sexual crimes in the military. Do you believe that this should be examined?
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Hon. Marie Deschamps - 16:21
Hon. Peter Kent - 16:23
Lib. (BC)
Joyce Murray (Vancouver Quadra)
2015-05-25 16:23
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—might be a fruitful place to have some additional investigation. I see you're nodding at that.
I just want to ask whether you believe that, as committed as Major-General Whitecross is, having this implementation of a new structure done from within the military is adequate, or that it should be done at arm's length, or at least advice at arm's length on how to implement the details of your recommendations.
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Hon. Marie Deschamps - 16:23
Hon. Peter Kent - 17:07
Lib. (BC)
Joyce Murray (Vancouver Quadra)
2015-05-25 17:07
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I really appreciate the expressions of heartfelt commitment by both of our witnesses to change this culture and bring in a positive culture of trust and confidence. As a woman with a daughter and a granddaughter and a great respect for the Canadian Armed Forces, I share that commitment as well.
The questions I am going to ask are about process, because I think good people cannot always overcome a bad process, so process is important.
To follow up on the discussions that have been happening around measuring and reporting, that structure to measure and report has to be created. Madame Deschamps, are you confident if those are created in-house in National Defence that will be sufficient, or should there be an external independent component to the measuring and reporting and/or an independent component to delivering the reports?
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Hon. Marie Deschamps - 17:08
Hon. Marie Deschamps - 17:09
Lib. (BC)
Joyce Murray (Vancouver Quadra)
2015-05-25 17:09
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Okay, thank you.
Major-General Whitecross, would you consider implementing an external review, such as the one that was just conducted by Madame Deschamps, on a regular basis so that these issues stay in the spotlight until such time as it's clear that the changes you're looking for have been made, or do you think the reviews are fine to do from within the organization?
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Christine Whitecross - 17:09
Lib. (BC)
Joyce Murray (Vancouver Quadra)
2015-05-25 17:10
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You're considering that. Okay, great.
Going back briefly to the process, Madame Deschamps, the military ombudsman refused to participate in your review, I believe, and you found that none of those who went that route found it helpful.
When the ombudsman was at our committee after the Maclean's articles, I asked the ombudsman how many complaints he had received. He said that he was not the place to deal with those complaints; he turned them over to the military police. Also, I asked him what his record was of how many came in that he turned over, and even that wasn't being tracked.
What role, if any, do you think the ombudsman should have in relation to sexual misconduct complaints that may go into his office? Also, is there a structure of accountability or tracking that you think should happen?
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Hon. Marie Deschamps - 17:11
Lib. (BC)
Joyce Murray (Vancouver Quadra)
2015-05-25 17:11
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Okay, so people should know that's not where they go.
Going back to my concern about this initiating directive, when I read recommendation five, it refers to developing “a simple, broad definition of sexual harassment that effectively captures all dimensions of the member's relationship with the CAF.” However, when I look at the basis for the requirement that you were provided with by the CDS in this initiating directive, it says very clearly that the definition of harassment as developed by Treasury Board and reflected in DAOD 5012-0 will remain in effect.
Those are two different answers. How do you square that when this initiating directive is still in operation?
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Christine Whitecross - 17:12
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