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View Peter Stoffer Profile
NDP (NS)
Thank you.
Also, the Newfoundland and Labrador government, as you know, has been in talks with the Turkish government. As you know, on most of the battle sites where Newfoundlanders participated, there is a statue of a caribou that faces the enemy, but they don't have one at Gallipoli yet. One of the concerns, of course, is that the Turkish government is still technically a little upset with us because of the motion on the Armenian genocide, but there have been talks between Newfoundland and Turkey in order to have a caribou statue placed where the Newfoundlanders fell at Gallipoli.
Have you been involved in any of those discussions? If you haven't, is it possible that you could bring it up when you're there to see if it is possible in the future that the Newfoundlanders and Labradorians could make the effort of putting their caribou statue there? The one that was supposed to be there now is in Bowring Park in St. John's, Newfoundland. That one was technically supposed to be in Gallipoli, but due to some political concerns, it's not there yet.
Are you aware of it? Do you have any thoughts at all on that?
John Desrosiers
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John Desrosiers
2015-03-31 9:14
The department is aware. We continue to work through the embassy in Ankara to help facilitate discussions with the Province of Newfoundland and Labrador and the Turkish government. We will continue to facilitate those discussions and hopefully will have a favourable outcome in the near future.
View Lawrence MacAulay Profile
Lib. (PE)
Mr. Pinhorn, you put a lot of things on the record here that I consider quite valuable and important, and it's what the country needs to hear, too. It's sad what has happened and what a number of people, do-gooders, can do to a very important industry. I think if you took anybody into where they butcher animals, you'd certainly have a lot of trouble with that. It's sad and if this is not stopped, how far is it going to go?
For my last question, I'd just like you to elaborate. I know you have mentioned to me the monument that's going to be erected, and there is a sense of pride and respect there. I'd just like you to mention that on the record.
Frank Pinhorn
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Frank Pinhorn
2014-06-11 16:43
The SS Newfoundland lost 74 or 75 people. They all froze to death on the ice.
Then the SS Southern Cross, with I believe 154 aboard, sank. The word is that the pound boards in the vessel were not in good condition and may have shifted. She was fully loaded and on her way across the southern shore and rolled over and sank, and she lost 154 people. Altogether I think there were 251 who were lost in one year in 1914.
John Crosbie is the honorary chairman of the group. He and some business people have a committee in place, of which I'm a part. Altogether they've raised upwards of $3 million. They're going to erect a memorial, and the name of every person who was lost in the sealing industry is going to be on that memorial, so there are going to be....
There's the story of Mr. Crewe and his son. His son went to the ice, and he was 16. The year before that Mr. Crewe had said he'd never go out there again. When his wife heard that the 16-year-old was going sealing, she turned to John Crewe and said, you've got to go out with him to look after him while he's out there in the boat and sealing. The young fellow froze to death in his father's arms. That's the story written by Cassie Brown in her book, Death on the Ice.
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