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View Frank Valeriote Profile
Lib. (ON)
View Frank Valeriote Profile
2014-10-28 11:14
First of all, thank you for the question. I too was going to open with acknowledging that our hearts and minds are with WO Patrice Vincent and Corporal Nathan Cirillo and their families today. I know all of us are thinking of them and their families, and I thank you for saying that.
With respect to the first part of your question, particularly in times where restraint has to be shown and where there are cuts, I know from my previous practice of law and having various businesses, you had to think of ways to utilize the services that you did have. I think this is a tremendous opportunity for us to refine those processes so that in the age where we have to be very cognizant of our spending, this gives a perfect opportunity to eliminate some of the difficulties, the hurdles that exist right now. By eliminating some of those hurdles, we refine the system and work more effectively and not only for our constituents but also more cost effectively for the taxpayer.
The words “not limited to” were intended to explain exactly as I expressed in the bill; that is, we didn't want to be exhaustive in the bill, because frankly, I don't know, none of us know, all of the services that exist today or may exist tomorrow or a year from now that could be integrated into this one point of contact system. I also have become aware, thanks to the minister, that there are some departments that we will not have access to through this legislation. The legislation has to be currently restricted to those that use the SIN, the social insurance number. It is the intention over time to have all departments eventually aligned so that the SIN would be used and this would apply, indeed, to all the departments with whom a deceased representative would have to communicate on behalf of the deceased. There was nothing nefarious about the use of the words “but not limited to”. I just know as a lawyer who has worked on legislation and interpreting legislation that you try to be broad so that if you've missed something, it's not excluded later.
View Frank Valeriote Profile
Lib. (ON)
View Frank Valeriote Profile
2014-10-28 11:26
They raised one specific issue, and that was the fact that not all the departments will be able to immediately engage in this Tell Us Once application simply because they do not all use the social insurance number. One such department, I believe, is Veterans Affairs. I know the minister and her department are anxious to expand it to Veterans Affairs so that they too can be included in the system I speak of, the single portal, but until then, those who die and our veterans will not benefit from it. They made it clear that there may have to be an amendment to that effect, so that reference to departments that use social insurance numbers is found in the legislation, and as more departments start to use the social insurance number, they will fall into the single portal through Service Canada.
View Lawrence MacAulay Profile
Lib. (PE)
Thank you very much.
I'm a substitute on the committee but I did listen to your presentation, enjoyed it very much and thank you very much for being here.
You indicated that the SIN card is no longer issued as a card because it was so convenient to carry. What I gather from that is this great concern that people actually are not concerned enough about their own identity at times and this is why this was done. I'd just like you to elaborate a bit on that.
View Lawrence MacAulay Profile
Lib. (PE)
Thank you very much. Not to go back to the HRSDC breach but situations like that, I'd just like you to comment. The information was on small hand-held devices. Do you think that's a problem, possibly, that personal information should not be held on devices like that? I'd just like you to comment on that.
View Lawrence MacAulay Profile
Lib. (PE)
Breach is related to stolen identity. Could you just elaborate what effect that would have on businesses with any idea what percentage of breaches that take place are connected with that? Possibly not even with theft but loss, but most likely theft I would have to think....
View Lawrence MacAulay Profile
Lib. (PE)
I'd like you to elaborate. It looks like, and it's easy to understand, it's a game of catch-up. Who is doing the catching up is sometimes hard to know. But when you put in the certification training of agents and the SIN code of practice...would you elaborate a bit on the SIN code of practice?
View Lawrence MacAulay Profile
Lib. (PE)
Okay.
The SIN is used to identify people. If it hasn't been used in five years, you indicate that something clicks in, in order to.... Is that to investigate what's taken place? Also, is it used in order to detect income tax fraud, or these types of things? I'd be interested to know.
View Scott Andrews Profile
Ind. (NL)
View Scott Andrews Profile
2014-04-01 11:45
Thank you.
I just had an opportunity to go through your testimony.
Are there any restrictions around other organizations asking to use the person's SIN for a way to identify them as a customer or as another...? An outside government agency may use someone's SIN as part of identification purposes for you as a customer, or for another purpose. It's outside of an employer-government relation. It's an outside organization using the SIN. Are there any restrictions on any companies doing that?
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