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View Annick Papillon Profile
NDP (QC)
View Annick Papillon Profile
2015-06-04 12:24
I find that interesting. Since you are from my riding, I would like to take this opportunity to find out more about how CEFRIO is funded.
Do you receive money from federal programs? How can the federal government help you more?
View Annick Papillon Profile
NDP (QC)
View Annick Papillon Profile
2015-06-04 12:25
Yes, that could be a partner. I find it very interesting that you are raising this point today.
Ms. Dubé, in your PowerPoint presentation, you indicated that the cost of access to the Internet and to cellular networks was too high and was affecting Canada's economic vitality.
How does Canada compare to the rest of the world in that respect?
View Annick Papillon Profile
NDP (QC)
View Annick Papillon Profile
2015-06-04 12:27
Since it is a matter of changing our way of thinking, I would like to direct the question to others, so that they can share their ideas with us as well.
View Annick Papillon Profile
NDP (QC)
View François Choquette Profile
NDP (QC)
Thank you, Mr. Chair.
I want to thank the two witnesses for appearing and for their testimony.
Mr. Morrice, you just talked about how important it is for municipalities and provinces to participate. What role does the federal government play in your initiatives? Actually, the question is also for Ms. Ryan.
View François Choquette Profile
NDP (QC)
My question is about both roles.
View François Choquette Profile
NDP (QC)
Thank you.
Ms. Ryan, I have the same question for you. I know that you have good partnerships with municipalities and the province. Can you explain the federal government's role?
View François Choquette Profile
NDP (QC)
What would you recommend to the committee concerning the federal government's role? Some programs are ad hoc and do not have long-term funding. Do you have any recommendations?
View Guy Caron Profile
NDP (QC)
Thank you very much, Mr. Chair.
I also thank the witnesses for being here with us today.
I will begin with Mr. Henschel and Ms. Marcoux, who represent the RCMP.
There has been much talk about the whole situation surrounding the destruction of data and the current conflict with the Information Commissioner. We are not necessarily talking about the process here. I think that aspect will be settled with the Information Commissioner. The problem with this bill is that the government wants to retroactively amend an act while a legal proceeding in respect to that act is ongoing.
Since you work at the RCMP and regularly conduct investigations there, I would like you to tell me how a retroactive change connected to an ongoing proceeding affects the work of the RCMP? Let's take an example. Let us suppose that legal provisions set the value of the gifts MPs may receive at $500, but that an MP receives a gift valued at $750. However, in order to protect the MP, or for some other reason, the government decides, while there is a complaint before the courts, to retroactively increase the limit for gifts to $1,000. You can just imagine the problems that this would cause, not only in that situation but also in any other investigation the RCMP might be conducting.
View Guy Caron Profile
NDP (QC)
I understand that.
I want to point out, however, that your testimony, even though it is interesting and informative, does not really have any impact on the legislative changes that are being proposed here. Indeed, the principle of these changes is a retroactive amendment to an act while a legal proceeding has already been undertaken. Consequently, even though your testimony is interesting—and I am sure it will be heard and listened to—it is not really relevant to what is being proposed in Bill C-59.
I would like to go back to Ms. Tremblay and Ms. Daviau. Can you tell us more about the $900 million? According to what the government is saying, it is introducing savings via this budget, and these will contribute to its much-vaunted balanced budget.
Could you tell us in a more detailed way how this $900 million constitutes, according to you, only ostensible, fictitious, savings?
We are going to begin with Ms. Daviau and then go to Ms. Tremblay.
View Guy Caron Profile
NDP (QC)
Ms. Tremblay, I am going to ask another question.
As Mr. Lee said, the sick leave provisions were negotiated between the unions and the government, and both parties accepted these provisions. I think that Ms. Daviau, and probably Ms. Benson as well, talked about the possible unconstitutionality of this provision in Bill C-59. If this provision were adopted, what would be the direct consequences? Since this provision may be unconstitutional, what steps will be taken after the passage of this bill?
View Pierre Dionne Labelle Profile
NDP (QC)
Thank you, Mr. Chair.
I understand the representatives of the Canadian Association of Professional Employees, the Professional Institute of the Public Service of Canada, and the Public Service Alliance of Canada very well. I understand that they are surprised to see that in an omnibus budget, the government is attempting to dispose of an issue that is on the negotiating table.
You mention that this type of process may be unconstitutional, and I believe that that is a very real possibility. It would not be the first time that this government goes before the Supreme Court and is not successful in bringing in certain measures. I calculated that this has happened about a dozen times.
If the government continues this, are you going to launch court challenges? Perhaps Ms. Benson could answer that question.
View Pierre Dionne Labelle Profile
NDP (QC)
I agree with you on this matter.
The government claims that these measures are going to allow it to save $900 million, but you challenge that figure.
Did your organization evaluate this? In the event that this bill were applied as it stands, did your calculations produce a different figure?
View Pierre Dionne Labelle Profile
NDP (QC)
This is a problem we are facing with this budget. In a more general way, the government was announcing a surplus of $1.4 billion. And yet we are told that this $900 million is not real money. They have calculated things in a particular way to arrive at that surplus. Moreover, for the quarter that has just come to an end, the forecast was that the gross domestic product would increase by 1.2%, but in reality, there has been a drop of 0.6%. There were supposed to be surpluses in the budget that has been presented, but we parliamentarians, and the entire population, can see that we are instead heading toward a deficit.
I share your opinion that this $900 million amount is fictional money which has been trumped up essentially for political ends. The amount is being used to show that the government is a good manager. However, in principle, a good manager negotiates with its unions and attempts to maintain negotiated agreements as long as possible. However, it is clear that this government does not do that.
I would like to go back to your table, which I found very interesting. You applied the proposed plan to the figures you had for 2013-2014. I see in your table that after having used the six days of sick leave being proposed, 45% of employees who would need leave because they are sick would not be covered by the new plan.
View Pierre Dionne Labelle Profile
NDP (QC)
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