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Committee Evidence - PROC-55
2011-03-25
CPC (ON)
Joe Preston (Elgin—Middlesex—London)
2011-03-25 12:10
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We are now in public on the orders of the day, pursuant to the order of reference of Wednesday, March 9, 2011, the question of privilege relating to the statements made by the Minister of International Cooperation.
When we were last together, which somehow seems like yesterday, I believe we had proceeded as far as paragraph 32. Am I correct?
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Marcel Proulx - 12:10
CPC (ON)
Joe Preston (Elgin—Middlesex—London)
2011-03-25 12:10
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Had we voted on paragraph 32 and accepted it? No, we had not. We were still doing things to paragraph 32. I can only assume if we hadn't passed it that there--
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Marcel Proulx - 12:11
CPC (ON)
Joe Preston (Elgin—Middlesex—London)
2011-03-25 12:11
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Our analyst.
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Nicolas Auclair - 12:11
CPC (ON)
Joe Preston (Elgin—Middlesex—London)
2011-03-25 12:11
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Mr. Reid.
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Scott Reid - 12:11
Scott Reid - 12:12
CPC (ON)
Joe Preston (Elgin—Middlesex—London)
2011-03-25 12:12
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On that point, there were some other changes yesterday that we had asked for as a committee. Up until paragraph 32 and including...I think there's a change later on that has to do with something we voted on yesterday, so if you have that document, you now have the latest one with the changes already in place. Excellent work.
On paragraph 32, further discussion? Seeing none--
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Scott Reid - 12:12
CPC (ON)
Joe Preston (Elgin—Middlesex—London)
2011-03-25 12:12
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To include “question 106 on the Order Paper” as a piece of detail....
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Marcel Proulx - 12:12
CPC (ON)
Joe Preston (Elgin—Middlesex—London)
2011-03-25 12:12
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Any other changes suggested to paragraph 32?
Seeing none, all those in favour of paragraph 32?
(Paragraph 32 agreed to)
The Chair: Great.
Now on paragraph 33, are there any changes?
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Marcel Proulx - 12:13
CPC (ON)
Joe Preston (Elgin—Middlesex—London)
2011-03-25 12:13
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I'll just let Mr. Proulx get caught up. I count on him for some of the translation.
Mr. Reid, sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt you.
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Scott Reid - 12:13
CPC (ON)
Joe Preston (Elgin—Middlesex—London)
2011-03-25 12:14
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Yes, okay.
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Scott Reid - 12:14
CPC (ON)
Joe Preston (Elgin—Middlesex—London)
2011-03-25 12:15
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Okay. You got to that point. I was going to ask you, then, if that was correct, what was wrong with it? Are you suggesting that we remove paragraph 33?
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Scott Reid - 12:15
CPC (ON)
Joe Preston (Elgin—Middlesex—London)
2011-03-25 12:15
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All right.
Sorry?
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Andre Barnes - 12:15
Hon. Bob Rae - 12:15
CPC (ON)
Joe Preston (Elgin—Middlesex—London)
2011-03-25 12:15
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Okay. I'll make a speakers list. I have Mr. Reid speaking, and Mr. Dewar's hand was up. I assume that since there was an intervention from Mr. Rae, he will put his name on the list.
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Paul Dewar - 12:16
CPC (ON)
Joe Preston (Elgin—Middlesex—London)
2011-03-25 12:16
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All right.
Mr. Rae.
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Hon. Bob Rae - 12:16
CPC (ON)
Joe Preston (Elgin—Middlesex—London)
2011-03-25 12:17
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Thank you, Mr. Rae.
Monsieur Laframboise.
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Mario Laframboise - 12:17
CPC (ON)
Joe Preston (Elgin—Middlesex—London)
2011-03-25 12:17
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Okay.
Mr. Albrecht.
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Harold Albrecht - 12:17
CPC (ON)
Joe Preston (Elgin—Middlesex—London)
2011-03-25 12:18
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Mr. Rae.
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Hon. Bob Rae - 12:18
Harold Albrecht - 12:18
CPC (ON)
Joe Preston (Elgin—Middlesex—London)
2011-03-25 12:19
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Are you asking the chair a question?
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Hon. Bob Rae - 12:19
CPC (ON)
Joe Preston (Elgin—Middlesex—London)
2011-03-25 12:19
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Mr. Rae, I will offer today, as I offered yesterday, to return to the evidentiary portion of this committee's study to find that answer. But I don't think that's your will.
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Hon. Bob Rae - 12:19
CPC (ON)
Joe Preston (Elgin—Middlesex—London)
2011-03-25 12:19
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Right. So testimony on behalf of Mr. Abbott isn't getting it done here.
Mr. Reid.
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Hon. Bob Rae - 12:19
CPC (ON)
Joe Preston (Elgin—Middlesex—London)
2011-03-25 12:19
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I know that often we'll get the speeches that might not otherwise happen in the review of a report.
The chair can offer an opinion once in a while, too, Mr. Proulx.
Mr. Reid.
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Scott Reid - 12:20
CPC (ON)
Joe Preston (Elgin—Middlesex—London)
2011-03-25 12:20
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I will never admit to that, Mr. Reid.
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Scott Reid - 12:20
CPC (ON)
Joe Preston (Elgin—Middlesex—London)
2011-03-25 12:20
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But since a speech was made, you're going to give the rebuttal?
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Scott Reid - 12:20
CPC (ON)
Joe Preston (Elgin—Middlesex—London)
2011-03-25 12:23
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Okay. They're hunting that down.
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Scott Reid - 12:23
Scott Reid - 12:24
CPC (ON)
Joe Preston (Elgin—Middlesex—London)
2011-03-25 12:24
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No. I'd like you to hold that until we get to paragraph 38. I mean, certainly you can suggest it all you want, but we won't get there until we get there.
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Scott Reid - 12:24
CPC (ON)
Joe Preston (Elgin—Middlesex—London)
2011-03-25 12:24
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Make your suggestion; you would like to change some wording in paragraph 38 because they're related.
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Scott Reid - 12:24
CPC (ON)
Joe Preston (Elgin—Middlesex—London)
2011-03-25 12:25
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I'm happy with that.
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Scott Reid - 12:25
CPC (ON)
Joe Preston (Elgin—Middlesex—London)
2011-03-25 12:25
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It's paragraph 33 itself.
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Scott Reid - 12:25
Marcel Proulx - 12:25
CPC (ON)
Joe Preston (Elgin—Middlesex—London)
2011-03-25 12:25
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We haven't had one of those yet today. Thank you.
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Marcel Proulx - 12:25
CPC (ON)
Joe Preston (Elgin—Middlesex—London)
2011-03-25 12:26
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He asked permission to talk about 38 because it was related, and I said give me both at the same time. We'll work on one at a time, but give them both to me. He's following my instructions, Mr. Proulx.
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Marcel Proulx - 12:26
CPC (ON)
Joe Preston (Elgin—Middlesex—London)
2011-03-25 12:26
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I did.
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Scott Reid - 12:26
CPC (ON)
Joe Preston (Elgin—Middlesex—London)
2011-03-25 12:26
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We're changing the word “administrative”, in the second last line, to “departmental” in 38, and then when we get there we'll--
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Scott Reid - 12:26
CPC (ON)
Joe Preston (Elgin—Middlesex—London)
2011-03-25 12:26
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Does the change not apply if 33 is kept?
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Scott Reid - 12:26
CPC (ON)
Joe Preston (Elgin—Middlesex—London)
2011-03-25 12:26
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Right.
Do you have a point, Monsieur Laframboise?
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Mario Laframboise - 12:26
CPC (ON)
Joe Preston (Elgin—Middlesex—London)
2011-03-25 12:27
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We'll have the analyst respond to that, and then, Mr. Reid, you can--
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Nicolas Auclair - 12:27
Nicolas Auclair - 12:28
CPC (ON)
Joe Preston (Elgin—Middlesex—London)
2011-03-25 12:28
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Do we have that wording?
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Scott Reid - 12:28
CPC (ON)
Joe Preston (Elgin—Middlesex—London)
2011-03-25 12:28
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Let's use his exact words in English.
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Scott Reid - 12:28
Marcel Proulx - 12:29
CPC (ON)
Joe Preston (Elgin—Middlesex—London)
2011-03-25 12:29
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“Departmental”.
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Scott Reid - 12:29
CPC (ON)
Joe Preston (Elgin—Middlesex—London)
2011-03-25 12:30
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We've agreed to “departmental” in English. What are you suggesting en français?
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Marcel Proulx - 12:30
CPC (ON)
Joe Preston (Elgin—Middlesex—London)
2011-03-25 12:30
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Okay, great.
We're on 33, and the motion has been moved by Mr. Reid that we remove 33.
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Marcel Proulx - 12:30
CPC (ON)
Joe Preston (Elgin—Middlesex—London)
2011-03-25 12:30
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Number 33 would be removed. Is there further discussion on that?
I'm seeing none.
Those in agreement to remove 33? Those against removing 33?
It looks like that was defeated. Number 33 will stay.
Those in favour of 33 as it stands?
(Paragraph 33 agreed to)
The Chair: Paragraph 34.
Mr. Young.
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Terence Young - 12:30
CPC (ON)
Joe Preston (Elgin—Middlesex—London)
2011-03-25 12:31
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I think you're talking about Mrs. Corkery.
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Terence Young - 12:31
CPC (ON)
Joe Preston (Elgin—Middlesex—London)
2011-03-25 12:33
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Mr. Rae.
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Hon. Bob Rae - 12:33
Yasmin Ratansi - 12:34
CPC (ON)
Joe Preston (Elgin—Middlesex—London)
2011-03-25 12:34
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Mr. Young.
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Terence Young - 12:34
Hon. Bob Rae - 12:34
CPC (ON)
Joe Preston (Elgin—Middlesex—London)
2011-03-25 12:34
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Excuse me, you don't have the floor. I have other members on the speakers list. If you'd like to get on, go ahead and put your hand up.
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Hon. Bob Rae - 12:34
CPC (ON)
Joe Preston (Elgin—Middlesex—London)
2011-03-25 12:34
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Mr. Albrecht.
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Harold Albrecht - 12:34
CPC (ON)
Joe Preston (Elgin—Middlesex—London)
2011-03-25 12:35
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I have Monsieur Laframboise, and then Mr. Rae and Mr. Young.
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Mario Laframboise - 12:35
CPC (ON)
Joe Preston (Elgin—Middlesex—London)
2011-03-25 12:36
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Mr. Rae.
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Hon. Bob Rae - 12:36
CPC (ON)
Joe Preston (Elgin—Middlesex—London)
2011-03-25 12:37
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Mr. Rae, I'll suggest again, and probably not for the last time today, you're looking for evidence. We've moved beyond looking for evidence--
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Yasmin Ratansi - 12:37
Hon. Bob Rae - 12:37
CPC (ON)
Joe Preston (Elgin—Middlesex—London)
2011-03-25 12:37
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We're all agreed, and you gave your opinion on Mr. Kenney's thoughts at the time of giving his speech, and we're not certain. That's in evidence.
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Hon. Bob Rae - 12:37
Marcel Proulx - 12:37
CPC (ON)
Joe Preston (Elgin—Middlesex—London)
2011-03-25 12:37
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Agreed.
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Yasmin Ratansi - 12:37
CPC (ON)
Joe Preston (Elgin—Middlesex—London)
2011-03-25 12:37
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Mr. Young.
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Terence Young - 12:37
Terence Young - 12:38
CPC (ON)
Joe Preston (Elgin—Middlesex—London)
2011-03-25 12:38
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Listen to the chair, please.
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Terence Young - 12:38
CPC (ON)
Joe Preston (Elgin—Middlesex—London)
2011-03-25 12:38
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Order, please.
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Terence Young - 12:39
CPC (ON)
Joe Preston (Elgin—Middlesex—London)
2011-03-25 12:39
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Thank you.
Mr. Reid, then Monsieur Proulx.
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Scott Reid - 12:39
CPC (ON)
Joe Preston (Elgin—Middlesex—London)
2011-03-25 12:40
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It would be up to the will of the committee, of course.
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Scott Reid - 12:40
CPC (ON)
Joe Preston (Elgin—Middlesex—London)
2011-03-25 12:40
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We're talking in the abstract at the moment. Nothing--
Mr. Terence Young: It's just the first sentence.
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Scott Reid - 12:40
CPC (ON)
Joe Preston (Elgin—Middlesex—London)
2011-03-25 12:40
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It's from the words “Some members” to the word “KAIROS”.
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Scott Reid - 12:40
CPC (ON)
Joe Preston (Elgin—Middlesex—London)
2011-03-25 12:40
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Are there two sentences in there? I had to check. Okay, right.
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Scott Reid - 12:40
CPC (ON)
Joe Preston (Elgin—Middlesex—London)
2011-03-25 12:41
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Sure.
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Scott Reid - 12:41
CPC (ON)
Joe Preston (Elgin—Middlesex—London)
2011-03-25 12:42
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Dissolved.
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