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View Navdeep Bains Profile
Lib. (ON)
On a point of order, if Mr. Saxton wants to bring his motion, let's deal with the motion we're dealing with. To all of a sudden circumvent that debate and bring your motion--you're more than entitled to move your motion, but right now my colleague Mr. D'Amours brought in his motion, because we're dealing with committee business. This has to do with the committee's agenda. That's why he brought forward his motion. If it doesn't receive unanimous consent, that's a separate issue, but it's in order unless it has to do with other items of committee work.
We are dealing with committee business, so the chair's ruling made sense.
I don't see, Chair, right now how you could even entertain a second motion until we deal with Mr. D'Amours' motion.
I would humbly request that Mr. D'Amours'--
View Joseph Volpe Profile
Lib. (ON)
Just a moment, Mr. Saxton.
View Joseph Volpe Profile
Lib. (ON)
Mr. Saxton, just a moment.
View Navdeep Bains Profile
Lib. (ON)
As I was saying, Chair, my point of order is that we deal with Mr. D'Amours' motion first, and then of course I have no hesitation to deal with Mr. Saxton's motion.
View Joseph Volpe Profile
Lib. (ON)
I've already ruled on this. You can keep challenging if you want to, but there is already a motion on the table that's being debated. I have consulted with our clerk on two occasions during the course of this discussion about whether that motion is in order, and the clerk--I'm giving her a moment or two here to bring that forward so we can read it for you specifically.
Madam.
View Joseph Volpe Profile
Lib. (ON)
Just a minute. Hold on, Mr. Saxton--
View Joseph Volpe Profile
Lib. (ON)
Mr. Saxton, just please come to order.
As I said, you can be disruptive or everybody can have an opportunity to be involved one at a time.
View Joseph Volpe Profile
Lib. (ON)
One at a time.
View Joseph Volpe Profile
Lib. (ON)
The first one I have is Mr. Christopherson.
View Joseph Volpe Profile
Lib. (ON)
Thank you, Mr. Christopherson.
Go ahead, Madame Faille.
View Joseph Volpe Profile
Lib. (ON)
I think we're now going into discussion on the merits of the item, and I think Mr. Christopherson began by saying that he might not think that this motion, despite the interpretation I gave, would be in order. I did consult with the clerk beforehand, so I think we are in the process of discussing whether this motion is in order. I said I would hear everybody on it, so let's maintain the discussion in an orderly fashion on whether you accept that this motion is in order. Let's leave the substance of it aside.
I have Mr. Saxton and Mr. Kramp.
View Joseph Volpe Profile
Lib. (ON)
Go ahead, Mr. Kramp.
View Joseph Volpe Profile
Lib. (ON)
Stay on topic, Mr. Kramp.
As I read the mood here, we can do one of two things: either we can adjourn the debate on the motion and have it brought up at a further discussion, or Mr. D'Amours may wish to withdraw it and move it again at a later date. I'm going to ask the latter question first, and I'll ask it of Mr. D'Amours.
View Jean-Claude D'Amours Profile
Lib. (NB)
Mr. Chairman, my question is clear.
Furthermore, it is not up to us, as members sitting around this table, to decide if the motion is in order. We can provide our opinion as to whether or not we think that it falls within the committee's order of business. You are the chair, we have a clerk, and we have documentation containing the information needed to verify if the question is in order or not. I believe that that fact has been well established.
I do not understand why certain members of Parliament refuse the principle of transparency. We talk about accountability, and I believe that we are in fact here faced with a refusal of transparency. One must also ask why certain members are trying to prevent things from moving forward. What are they afraid of?
We have senior officials in the House, independent officials who do their job. We ask them to ensure that all of the work done within government follows the rules. The only thing I am asking is that there be transparency, that we ensure that any reports completed by the Auditor General be presented to the public.
What is the problem with transparency? What is the problem with certain members who do not want the public to know certain things? What are people afraid of? Perhaps the report will be a positive one. Why be fearful of having the Auditor General come with a report and recommendations? Unless someone is trying to hide something.
Those members who refuse the principle of transparency should now think twice about it before making that kind of comment.
Mr. Kramp, we are talking about transparency and
accountability, it was supposed to be from your government, and you said that it's crap? I hope that next time you will think about those words before mentioning it.
Mr. Chairman, my motion is there, it remains, and I am asking that we deal with it.
View Joseph Volpe Profile
Lib. (ON)
Okay.
Well, I have Mr. Saxton, who has made a motion. For the purposes of the clerk's being able to keep us all on track, would you just simply put--
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