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View Wayne Easter Profile
Lib. (PE)
I call the meeting officially to order.
Welcome to meeting number 23 of the House of Commons Standing Committee on Finance. Pursuant to the order of reference of January 27, 2021, the committee is meeting to study Bill C-224, an act to amend an act to authorize the making of certain fiscal payments to provinces, and to authorize the entry into tax collection agreements with provinces. We will be meeting on Bill C-208 in this committee meeting as well. Larry Maguire will present his bill.
Today's meeting is taking place in a hybrid format, which we've all become used to, pursuant to the House order of January 25, 2021. Therefore, members are attending in person in the room and remotely using the Zoom application. The proceedings will be made available via the House of Commons website.
We will not go through the rest of the formalities.
We will start with Mr. Gabriel Ste-Marie's bill, Bill C-224. We will go through clause-by-clause consideration. I hope people have the bill before them. It's not like we're in Parliament, where we can hand around fairly short bills.
Pursuant to Standing Order 75(1), consideration of the preamble will be postponed.
(On clause 1)
The Chair: I will call for the vote on clause 1, which has four proposed subsections.
I expect you want a recorded division on this, Mr. Ste-Marie.
View Gabriel Ste-Marie Profile
BQ (QC)
Unless carried on division, yes, I will call for recorded divisions.
View Wayne Easter Profile
Lib. (PE)
Shall clause 1 carry?
(Clause 1 negatived; nays 5; yeas 2)
(On clause 2)
The Chair: Shall clause 2 carry? It's one clause relating to the Government of Quebec.
(Clause 2 negatived; nays 5; yeas 2)
(On the preamble)
The Chair: Shall the preamble carry?
(Preamble negatived; nays 5; yeas 2)
(On the title)
The Chair: I have to ask you at some point, Mr. Clerk, because I've never had a bill defeated at committee and I'm not certain what we report to the House, but I think we still ought to go through the title.
Shall the title carry?
View Gabriel Ste-Marie Profile
BQ (QC)
Mr. Chair, to my knowledge, the title cannot be changed in committee. That is all that is being reported to the House at this time, given the constructive work of the Liberal and Conservative parties.
View Wayne Easter Profile
Lib. (PE)
Thanks for that advice, Gabriel. That's wise advice.
Jacques Maziade
View Jacques Maziade Profile
Jacques Maziade
2021-03-02 14:42
Mr. Chair, the committee can vote on the title.
View Wayne Easter Profile
Lib. (PE)
Okay. Regardless of whether the title carries or not, how do we handle reporting to the House if it's defeated? Does the chair just report to the House that the bill has been defeated? I've never gone through this process before. Imagine that.
Jacques Maziade
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Jacques Maziade
2021-03-02 14:42
Yes, there will be a report handed to you, and you will table the report saying that all the clauses were defeated.
View Wayne Easter Profile
Lib. (PE)
You are saying that we can vote on the title, against or for, contrary to what Mr. Ste-Marie says?
Jacques Maziade
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Jacques Maziade
2021-03-02 14:43
Yes, you can vote on the title.
View Julie Dzerowicz Profile
Lib. (ON)
Can I ask for a point of information?
View Wayne Easter Profile
Lib. (PE)
You can.
View Julie Dzerowicz Profile
Lib. (ON)
Can you vote in favour of a title if the whole bill is defeated? This might be for the clerk.
Jacques Maziade
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Jacques Maziade
2021-03-02 14:43
Yes, you can.
View Wayne Easter Profile
Lib. (PE)
Shall the title carry?
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