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Thank you.
I'd like to let you continue, but perhaps you'll have another chance afterwards. I have only two and a half minutes, but I'm interested in the question raised by one of your other colleagues, Joseph Caron, who was ambassador from 2001 to 2005.
He was talking about human rights and suggested that our dialogue with China should be at both levels: with the government and with the people as well. I think some reference has been made to the people of China being a different category. He said, “Tangible programs, not just statements, must be put in place for long-term impacts and results.”
Do both of you or either of you have any ideas about what that might look like in terms of tangible, specific programs, not just protests or bringing it up every time you meet with leaders and things like that?
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