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Minutes of Proceedings

45th Parliament, 1st Session
Meeting 14
Wednesday, November 5, 2025, 4:32 p.m. to 6:46 p.m.
Webcast
Presiding
Salma Zahid, Chair (Liberal)

House of Commons
• Alexandre Longpré, Procedural Clerk
 
Library of Parliament
• Kelsey Brennan, Analyst
• Grégoire Gayard, Analyst
The committee proceeded to the consideration of matters related to committee business.

Motion

Taleeb Noormohamed moved, — Notwithstanding the motion the committee adopted on October 20th and given that the order for disaggregated data will cost more than $4 million of taxpayer money, the word “disaggregated” be deleted and replaced with the following, “aggregated and anonymized”.

Debate arose thereon.

Amendment

Tony Baldinelli moved, — That the motion be amended by adding after the words “Notwithstanding the motion the committee adopted” the following: “on October 1st and”.

Debate arose thereon.

The question was put on the amendment of Tony Baldinelli and it was agreed to on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Tony Baldinelli, Maxime Blanchette-Joncas, Kelly DeRidder, Vincent Neil Ho, Helena Jaczek, Jagsharan Singh Mahal, Jennifer McKelvie, Taleeb Noormohamed, Aslam Rana — 9;

NAYS: — 0.

After debate, the question was put on the motion, as amended, and it was agreed to on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Tony Baldinelli, Maxime Blanchette-Joncas, Kelly DeRidder, Vincent Neil Ho, Helena Jaczek, Jagsharan Singh Mahal, Jennifer McKelvie, Taleeb Noormohamed, Aslam Rana — 9;

NAYS: — 0.

The motion, as amended, read as follows:

Notwithstanding the motion the committee adopted on October 1st and on October 20th and given that the order for disaggregated data will cost more than $4 million of taxpayer money, the word “disaggregated” be deleted and replaced with the following, “aggregated and anonymized”.

The order for the production of papers adopted on Wednesday, October 1, 2025, be discharged and replaced with the following:

That the committee requests the three funding councils, namely the Social Sciences and Humanities Research Council (SSHRC), the Natural Sciences and Engineering Research Council of Canada (NSERC), and the Canadian Institutes of Health Research (CIHR), as part of the study on the impact of federal funding allocation criteria on research excellence in Canada, to provide it with the aggregated and anonymized data of all submitted applications, whether funded or not, for all student and faculty funding programs from the master's level onwards for applications made between 2020 and 2025. That this data include (1) demographic data of applicants and collaborators, including applicants’ responses to the equity, diversity, and inclusion (EDI) questionnaire, (2) the institutions and departments of applicants, including the institutions of collaboration, (3) the language of the application, (4) all data regarding the type of application and project content (application year, grant program, discipline, title, summary, amount requested by the applicant), as well as (5) the identity of the evaluation committee, comments, opinions, scores assigned to applications for each criterion, and (6) the outcome of the application and the amount awarded. That the three funding councils submit all this data to the committee within 15 days following the adoption of this motion, in an Excel spreadsheet format.

The order for the production of papers adopted on Monday, October 20, 2025, be discharged and replaced with the following:

Considering that the three granting councils, namely the Social Sciences and Humanities Research Council (SSHRC), the Natural Sciences and Engineering Research Council of Canada (NSERC), and the Canadian Institutes of Health Research (CIHR), as part of the study on the impact of federal funding allocation criteria on research excellence in Canada, have informed the committee of an additional deadline required for the transmission of the data requested by the motion adopted on October 1, 2025.

That the three federal granting agencies transmit to it the aggregated and anonymized data of all applications submitted, whether funded or unfunded, for all students and professor funding programs from the master’s level for applications made between 2000 and 2025. That this data includes (1) demographic data of applicants and collaborators, including applicants’ responses to the equity, diversity, and inclusion (EDI) questionnaire, (2) the institutions and departments of applicants, including the institutions of collaboration, (3) the language of the application, (4) all data regarding the type of application and project content (application year, grant program, discipline, title, summary, amount requested by the applicant), as well as (5) the identity of the evaluation committee, comments, opinions, scores assigned to applications for each criterion, and (6) the outcome of the application and the amount awarded.

That the three funding councils submit all this data to the committee within 15 extra days following the adoption of this motion, in an Excel spreadsheet format.

Motion

Maxime Blanchette-Joncas moved, — Because the Social Sciences and Humanities Research Council of Canada (SSHRC) has already demonstrated its capacity to transmit disaggregated data directly to accredited researchers, in accordance with current ethical and legal requirements.

That the Committee request the government to establish an official and permanent protocol for the secure transfer of data held by the three federal granting councils, namely, the Social Sciences and Humanities Research Council (SSHRC), the Natural Sciences and Engineering Research Council (NSERC), and the Canadian Institutes of Health Research (CIHR), specifically, the disaggregated data for all submitted applications, whether funded or unfunded, across all student and faculty funding programs starting at the master’s level.

That this protocol aims to make accessible, in a disaggregated, anonymized, and secure form, all data relating to submitted funding applications, whether funded or not, for all student and faculty funding programs, beginning at the master’s level.

That this include the (1) demographic data of applicants and collaborators, including applicants’ responses to the Equity, Diversity, and Inclusion (EDI) questionnaire; the (2) applicants’ and collaborators’ institutions and departments; the (3) the language of the application; (4) all data concerning the type of application and project content (year of application, grant program, discipline, title, abstract, and amount requested by the applicant); the (5) identity of the evaluation committee, comments, assessments, and scores assigned to applications for each criterion; and the (6) the application outcome and amount awarded.

That access to these data be granted to accredited researchers who have received approval from a recognized research ethics board, and that such data be shared under a security protocol consistent with the international “Five Safes” model used by Statistics Canada and its Research Data Centres.

That the government assume responsibility for coordinating this process and submit to the Committee, within sixty days, an action plan specifying the responsible repository organization for data retention and transfer, the anonymization and security procedures, as well as the implementation and dissemination timeline.

Motion

Jennifer McKelvie moved, — That the debate be now adjourned.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Tony Baldinelli, Maxime Blanchette-Joncas, Kelly DeRidder, Vincent Neil Ho, Helena Jaczek, Jagsharan Singh Mahal, Jennifer McKelvie, Taleeb Noormohamed, Aslam Rana — 9;

NAYS: — 0.

Brock University
• Dr. Michelle McGinn, Associate Vice-President, Research
CIRANO
• Nathalie De Marcellis-Warin, Chief Executive Officer
OmniaBio Inc.
• Dr. Michael H. May, Chief Executive Officer
Ontario Tech University
• Dr. Steven Murphy, President and Vice-Chancellor
The Canadian SHIELD Institute for Public Policy
• Kaylie Tiessen, Chief Economist
Universities Canada
• Gabriel Miller, President and Chief Executive Officer
Pursuant to Standing Order 108(3)(i) and the motion adopted by the committee on Wednesday, October 1, 2025, the committee resumed its study of private sector investment in research and development in Canada.

Michelle McGinn, Nathalie De Marcellis-Warin and Gabriel Miller made statements and answered questions.

At 5:55 p.m., the meeting was suspended.

At 6:05 p.m., the meeting resumed.

Michael H. May, Steven Murphy and Kaylie Tiessen made statements and answered questions.

At 6:46 p.m., the committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.



Cédric Taquet
Clerk of the committee