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Minutes of Proceedings

Standing Committee on Public Safety and National Security (SECU)
45th Parliament, 1st Session
Meeting 19
Tuesday, December 9, 2025, 11:00 a.m. to 12:51 p.m.
Webcast
Presiding
Frank Caputo, Vice-Chair (Conservative)

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• Sukhman Gill for Dane Lloyd (Conservative)
Library of Parliament
• Sabrina Charland, Analyst
• Alexsandra Ferland, Analyst
Committee Business
The committee proceeded to the consideration of matters related to committee business.

The committee resumed consideration of the motion of Frank Caputo moved on Thursday, December 4, 2025, which read as follows:

That the Chair be instructed to invite the Minister of Industry to appear in relation to the study Bill C‑8, and that a meeting for the consideration of clause‑by‑clause may only be scheduled after the Minister’s appearance.

and of the amendment of Sima Acan moved on Thursday, December 4, 2025, which read as follows:

That the motion be amended by replacing the words “, and that a meeting for the consideration of clause by clause may only be scheduled after the Minister’s appearance” with the following: "no later than Friday, January 30, 2026, and that a meeting for the consideration of clause by clause be scheduled the meeting following the Minister's appearance and that the committee does not proceed to other business until the completion of clause by clause".

At 11:02 a.m., the meeting was suspended.

At 11:05 a.m., the meeting resumed.

At 11:05 a.m., the meeting was suspended.

At 11:06 a.m., the meeting resumed.

By unanimous consent, it was agreed, — That the amendment and motion are withdrawn.

Motion

Claude DeBellefeuille moved, — That the Chair be instructed to invite the Minister of Industry to appear before the committee as part of its study of Bill C-8 no later than Friday, January 30, 2026;

that the analysts provide the committee with a summary of the recommendations received by the clerk, either during committee proceedings or in the form of briefs, on the day of the Minister’s appearance;

that the deadline for submitting amendments be set at 48 working hours following the Minister’s appearance;

that the clause-by-clause consideration of Bill C-8 begin only after the Minister has appeared;

that the committee devote the number of meetings necessary to complete the clause-by-clause consideration of Bill C-8 and that the committee do not proceed to other committee business until the clause-by-clause review is concluded.

Debate arose thereon.

Amendment

Rhonda Kirkland moved, — That the motion be amended by deleting the words “and that the committee do not proceed to other Committee Business until the clause‑by‑clause review is concluded”.

After debate, by unanimous consent, the amendment was withdrawn.

Amendment

Rhonda Kirkland moved, — That the motion be amended by adding after the words “clause-by-clause review is concluded” the following: “, unless otherwise decided by the committee”.

At 11:15 a.m., the meeting was suspended.

At 11:26 a.m., the meeting resumed.

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Rhonda Kirkland and it was agreed to.

After debate, the question was put on the motion, as amended, and it was agreed to, by a show of hands: YEAS: 8; NAYS: 0.

The motion, as amended, read as follows:

That the Chair be instructed to invite the Minister of Industry to appear before the committee as part of its study of Bill C-8 no later than Friday, January 30, 2026;

that the analysts provide the committee with a summary of the recommendations received by the clerk, either during committee proceedings or in the form of briefs, on the day of the Minister’s appearance;

that the deadline for submitting amendments be set at 48 working hours following the Minister’s appearance;

that the clause-by-clause consideration of Bill C-8 begin only after the Minister has appeared;

that the committee devote the number of meetings necessary to complete the clause-by-clause consideration of Bill C-8 and that the committee do not proceed to other committee business until the clause-by-clause review is concluded, unless otherwise decided by the committee.

At 11:28 a.m., the meeting was suspended.

At 11:48 a.m., the meeting resumed.

Canada's Ability to Remove Foreign Nationals with a Criminal Record
National Police Federation
• Brian Sauvé, President
Pursuant to Standing Order 108(2) and the motion adopted by the committee on Thursday, September 18, 2025, the committee resumed its study of Canada's ability to remove foreign nationals with a criminal record.

Brian Sauvé made a statement and answered questions.

At 12:51 p.m., the committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.



Andrew Wilson
Clerk of the committee