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Minutes of Proceedings

45th Parliament, 1st Session
Meeting 10
Thursday, October 30, 2025, 11:04 a.m. to 1:11 p.m.
Webcast
Presiding
Hon. Jean-Yves Duclos, Chair (Liberal)

Library of Parliament
• Sabrina Charland, Analyst
• Alexsandra Ferland, Analyst
The committee proceeded to the consideration of matters related to committee business.

Motion

Jacques Ramsay moved, — That, notwithstanding the motion adopted by the committee on Tuesday, October 28, 2025, in relation to consideration of the Bill C‑12, An Act respecting certain measures relating to the security of Canada's borders and the integrity of the Canadian immigration system and respecting other related security measures;

the committee conduct clause‑by‑clause consideration of the Bill after the conclusion of witness testimony on the fourth meeting; and

the committee do not adjourn until clause‑by‑clause is completed.

Debate arose thereon.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to, by a show of hands: YEAS: 9; NAYS: 1.

Motion

Jacques Ramsay moved, — That, in relation to the study of Bill C‑8, An Act respecting cyber security, amending the Telecommunications Act and making consequential amendments to other Acts, the committee dedicate four meetings to the hearing of witnesses, including the Minister of Public Safety;

that the committee dedicate no more than two meetings to clause‑by‑clause consideration; and

that the committee complete the remaining one meeting of the Canada‑United States border management study, and provide drafting instructions to the analysts, in accordance with the motion adopted on Thursday, September 18, 2025, before resuming the study of Bill C‑8.

Debate arose thereon.

Amendment

Claude DeBellefeuille moved, — That the motion be amended by adding after the words “Minister of Public Safety” the following: “and the Minister of Industry”.

The debate continued

At 11:18 a.m., the meeting was suspended.

At 11:19 a.m., the meeting resumed.

At 11:19 a.m., the meeting was suspended.

At 11:24 a.m., the meeting resumed.

The debate resumed on the amendment of Claude DeBellefeuille.

It was agreed, — That the debate be now adjourned.

Canadian Constitution Foundation
• Josh Dehaas, Counsel
Canadian Cyber Threat Exchange
• Jennifer Quaid, Executive Director
Centre for International Governance Innovation
• Aaron Shull, Managing Director and General Counsel
Crypto Québec
• Luc Lefebvre, Chairman and Co-founder
ISC2, Inc.
• Philip Stupak, Senior Director of Advocacy
Office of the Intelligence Commissioner
• Hon. Simon Noël, Intelligence Commissioner
• Justin Dubois, Executive Director and General Counsel
Offices of the Information and Privacy Commissioners of Canada
• Philippe Dufresne, Privacy Commissioner of Canada
• Marc Chénier, Deputy Commissioner and Senior General Counsel
Privacy and Access Council of Canada
• Sharon Polsky, President
Pursuant to the order of reference of Friday, October 3, 2025, the committee resumed consideration of Bill C-8, An Act respecting cyber security, amending the Telecommunications Act and making consequential amendments to other Acts.

Jennifer Quaid, Philip Stupak, Honorable Simon Noël, and Philippe Dufresne made statements and answered questions.

At 12:20 p.m., the meeting was suspended.

At 12:26 p.m., the meeting resumed.

Josh Dehaas, Aaron Shull, Luc Lefebvre, and Sharon Polsky made statements and answered questions.

At 1:11 p.m., the committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.



Andrew Wilson
Clerk of the committee