Cliff Groen made a statement and answered questions.

Eric Lefebvre moved, —

That the committee resume consideration of the motion of Andréanne Larouche moved on Thursday, March 26, 2026, which read as follows:

That the Standing Committee on Human Resources, Skills and Social Development and the Status of Persons with Disabilities request that the Department of Employment and Social Development, the Department of Public Works and Government Services, the Privy Council Office, as well as the Prime Minister’s Office, provide to the clerk of the committee, within 30 days of the adoption of this motion, all reports, correspondence, emails and documents related to the management of the Benefits Delivery Modernization since January 1, 2017, and that the departments and offices responsible for producing the documents apply redactions in accordance with the legal obligations set out in the Privacy Act and the Access to Information Act.

and of the amendment of Rosemarie Falk moved on Monday, April 23, 2026, which read as follows:

That the motion be amended by adding after the word “That” the following: “, pursuant to Standing Order 108(1)(a),” and by replacing “request that the Department of Employment and Social Development, the Department of Public Works and Government Services, the Privy Council Office, as well as the Prime Minister’s Office, provide to the clerk of the committee, within 30 days of the adoption of this motion, all reports, correspondence, emails and documents related to the management of the Benefits Delivery Modernization since January 1, 2017, and that the departments and offices responsible for producing the documents apply redactions in accordance with the legal obligations set out in the Privacy Act and the Access to Information Act” with what follows:

“order the production of documents related to the Benefits Delivery Modernization (BDM) initiative, including the Cúram platform, from the Department of Employment and Social Development, the Department of Public Works and Government Services, the Privy Council Office, and the Prime Minister’s Office; That these departments and offices provide to the clerk of the committee, within 30 days of the adoption of this motion:

a. all internal audits, evaluations, and risk assessments related to BDM since January 1, 2017;

b. all briefing notes, memoranda, and decision documents prepared for Ministers and senior officials concerning the BDM initiative or the Cúram platform;

c. all emails and electronic communications that relate to:

i. system performance issues,

ii. delays or backlogs in benefit delivery,

iii. cost overruns or project risks, and

iv. decisions regarding the Cúram platform and BDM implementation;

d. all contracts related to the Cúram platform and associated systems;

The question was put on the motion and it was negatived on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Garnett Genuis, Laila Goodridge, Andréanne Larouche, Eric Lefebvre, Colin Reynolds — 5;

NAYS: Caroline Desrochers, Emma Harrison, Natilien Joseph, Gurbux Saini, Kristina Tesser Derksen, Louis Villeneuve — 6.

Questioning of the witnesses resumed.

At 9:12 a.m., the meeting was suspended.

At 9:19 a.m., the meeting resumed.

David Wilkes, Tim Richter and Raymond Sullivan made statements and answered questions.

It was agreed, — That the news releases announcing the committee's studies of homelessness in Canada and housing starts in relation to federal programs, inviting the public to submit briefs in relation to the studies, be published.