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Minutes of Proceedings

Standing Committee on National Defence (NDDN)
44th Parliament, 1st Session
Meeting 86
Thursday, December 7, 2023, 3:32 p.m. to 5:18 p.m.
Televised
Presiding
Hon. John McKay (Liberal)

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• Dane Lloyd for Shelby Kramp-Neuman (Conservative)
Library of Parliament
• Martin Auger, Analyst
• Andrés León, Analyst
Subject Matter of the Supplementary Estimates (B), 2023-24: Vote 1b under Communications Security Establishment, Votes 1b, 5b and 10b under Department of National Defence and Vote 1b under Military Police Complaints Commission
• Hon. Bill Blair, P.C., M.P., Minister of National Defence
Department of National Defence
• Bill Matthews, Deputy Minister
• Nancy Tremblay, Associate Assistant Deputy Minister, Materiel
• LGen Frances J. Allen, Vice Chief of the Defence Staff, Canadian Armed Forces
• Cheri Crosby, Chief Financial Officer
Communications Security Establishment
• Hughes St-Pierre, Assistant Deputy Minister, Corporate Services and Chief Financial Officer, Communications Security Establishment
• Caroline Xavier, Chief, Communications Security Establishment
Pursuant to Standing Order 108(2), the committee commenced its study of the subject matter of the Supplementary Estimates (B), 2023‑24: Vote 1b under Communications Security Establishment, Votes 1b, 5b and 10b under Department of National Defence and Vote 1b under Military Police Complaints Commission.

The Minister made a statement and, with Caroline Xavier, Bill Matthews, Nancy Tremblay, Cheri Crosby, and LGen Frances J. Allen, answered questions.

At 4:30 p.m., the sitting was suspended.

At 4:31 p.m., the sitting resumed.

Hughes St-Pierre, Caroline Xavier, Bill Matthews, Nancy Tremblay, Cheri Crosby, and LGen Frances J. Allen answered questions.

Motion

James Bezan moved, —

That the committee report to the House, based on testimony:
  1. the state of munitions production and procurement in Canada is abysmal;
  2. the state of readiness of the Canadian Armed Forces is declining;
  3. the Canadian Armed Forces possesses insufficient quantities of certain munitions and;
That the committee call on the Government to:
  1. reverse the $1‑billion budget cut announced by the Liberal government to the Department of National Defence and the Canadian Armed Forces;
  2. expand munitions production in Canada;
  3. increase munition exports to Ukraine; and
  4. support the development of weapons and munitions manufacturing capabilities in Ukraine by Canadian industry.

Debate arose thereon.

At 5:18 p.m., the committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.



Andrew Wilson
Clerk of the committee