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Minutes of Proceedings

Standing Committee on Canadian Heritage (CHPC)
44th Parliament, 1st Session
Meeting 30
Thursday, June 2, 2022, 3:48 p.m. to 6:54 p.m.
Televised
Presiding
Hon. Hedy Fry, Chair (Liberal)

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• Tom Kmiec for Rachael Thomas (Conservative)
• Jeremy Patzer for Kevin Waugh (Conservative)
• Rick Perkins for John Nater (Conservative)
House of Commons
• Paul Cardegna, Procedural Clerk
• Philippe Méla, Legislative Clerk
 
Library of Parliament
• Gabrielle de Billy Brown, Analyst
• Marion Ménard, Analyst
Bill C-11, An Act to amend the Broadcasting Act and to make related and consequential amendments to other Acts
• Hon. Pablo Rodriguez, P.C., M.P., Minister of Canadian Heritage
Canadian Independent Music Association
• Andrew Cash, President and Chief Executive Officer
Canadian Taxpayers Federation
• Jay Goldberg, Director, Ontario
Department of Canadian Heritage
• Thomas Owen Ripley, Associate Assistant Deputy Minister
ICI Television
• Sam Norouzi, Vice President and General Manager
Society of Composers, Authors and Music Publishers of Canada
• Andrea Kokonis, Chief Legal Officer and General Counsel
Pursuant to the order of reference of Thursday, May 12, 2022, the committee resumed consideration of Bill C-11, An Act to amend the Broadcasting Act and to make related and consequential amendments to other Acts.

Andrew Cash, Jay Goldberg, Sam Norouzi, and Andrea Kokonis made statements and answered questions.

Motion

Chris Bittle moved, — That the deadline for amendments on Bill C-11, An Act to amend the Broadcasting Act and to make related and consequential amendments to other Acts, be at 4:00 p.m. (ET) on Friday, June 3, 2022.

Motion

John Nater moved, — That the debate be now adjourned.

The question was put on the motion and it was negatived on the following recorded division:

YEAS: John Nater, Jeremy Patzer, Rachael Thomas, Tim Uppal — 4;

NAYS: Chris Bittle, Martin Champoux, Michael Coteau, Lisa Hepfner, Anthony Housefather, Peter Julian, Tim Louis — 7.

Amendment

Rachael Thomas moved, — That the motion be amended by replacing the words “at 4:00 p.m. (ET) on Friday June 3, 2022.” with the following: "three days prior to clause-by-clause.".

At 4:42 p.m., the sitting was suspended.

At 4:52 p.m., the sitting resumed.

The Chair ruled the proposed amendment admissible.

At 4:54 p.m., the sitting was suspended.

At 4:56 p.m., the sitting resumed.

Debate arose thereon on the amendment of Rachel Thomas.

Rachael Thomas moved, — That the debate be now adjourned.

The question was put on the motion and it was negatived on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Jeremy Patzer, Rick Perkins, Rachael Thomas, Tim Uppal — 4;

NAYS: Chris Bittle, Martin Champoux, Michael Coteau, Lisa Hepfner, Anthony Housefather, Peter Julian, Tim Louis — 7.

The debate on the amendment of Rachel Thomas continued.

Subamendment

Rick Perkins moved, — That the amendment be amended by adding after the words “clause-by-clause” the following: “and after the Minister appears at committee’”.

At 6:06 p.m., the sitting was suspended.

At 6:14 p.m., the sitting resumed.

The Chair ruled the proposed subamendment admissible.

At 6:19 p.m., the sitting was suspended.

At 6:21 p.m., the sitting resumed.

Whereupon, Anthony Housefather appealed the decision of the Chair.

The question: "Shall the decision of the Chair be sustained?" was put and the decision was overturned on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Tom Kmiec, Jeremy Patzer, Rick Perkins, Tim Uppal — 4;

NAYS: Chris Bittle, Martin Champoux, Michael Coteau, Lisa Hepfner, Anthony Housefather, Peter Julian, Tim Louis — 7.

The debate on the amendment of Rachel Thomas continued.

Subamendment

Rick Perkins moved, — That the amendment be amended by adding after the words "clause-by-clause.” the following: “and after the committee has the opportunity to hear from the Minister of Canadian Heritage and department officials.”.

At 6:46 p.m., the sitting was suspended.

At 6:49 p.m., the sitting resumed.

It was agreed, — That the committee do now adjourn.

At 6:54 p.m., the committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.



Alexie Labelle
Acting clerk of the committee