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Minutes of Proceedings

Standing Committee on Public Safety and National Security (SECU)
42nd Parliament, 1st Session
Meeting No. 113
Thursday, May 10, 2018, 11:03 a.m. to 1:03 p.m.
Televised
Presiding
Hon. John McKay, Chair (Liberal)

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• Don Davies for Matthew Dubé (NDP)
• Ron Liepert for Blaine Calkins (Conservative)
Library of Parliament
• Tanya Dupuis, Analyst
• Dominique Valiquet, Analyst
Main Estimates 2018-19: Votes 1 and 5 under Canada Border Services Agency, Vote 1 under Canadian Security Intelligence Service, Vote 1 under Civilian Review and Complaints Commission for the Royal Canadian Mounted Police, Votes 1 and 5 under Correctional Service of Canada, Votes 1 and 5 under Department of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness, Vote 1 under Office of the Correctional Investigator of Canada, Vote 1 under Parole Board of Canada, Votes 1, 5 and 10 under Royal Canadian Mounted Police, Vote 1 under Royal Canadian Mounted Police External Review Committee, Vote 1 under Secretariat of the National Security and Intelligence Committee of Parliamentarians and Vote 1 under Security Intelligence Review Committee
• Hon. Ralph Goodale, P.C., M.P., Minister of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness
Department of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness
• Malcolm Brown, Deputy Minister
• Patrick Amyot, Comptroller and Deputy Chief Financial Officer
Canada Border Services Agency
• John Ossowski, President
• Jacques Cloutier, Vice-President, Operations Branch
Canadian Security Intelligence Service
• Charles Lowson, Acting Deputy Director, Operations
• Christopher Dauphinais, Acting Deputy Chief Financial Officer
Correctional Service of Canada
• Anne Kelly, Interim Commissioner
• Fraser Macaulay, Acting Senior Deputy Commissioner
Royal Canadian Mounted Police
• Commr Brenda Lucki
• Denise Nesrallah, Acting Chief Financial and Administrative Officer
Parole Board of Canada
• Jennifer Oades, Chairperson
Pursuant to Standing Order 81(4), the Committee commenced consideration of the Main Estimates 2018-19: Votes 1 and 5 under Canada Border Services Agency, Vote 1 under Canadian Security Intelligence Service, Vote 1 under Civilian Review and Complaints Commission for the Royal Canadian Mounted Police, Votes 1 and 5 under Correctional Service of Canada, Votes 1 and 5 under Department of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness, Vote 1 under Office of the Correctional Investigator of Canada, Vote 1 under Parole Board of Canada, Votes 1, 5 and 10 under Royal Canadian Mounted Police, Vote 1 under Royal Canadian Mounted Police External Review Committee, Vote 1 under Secretariat of the National Security and Intelligence Committee of Parliamentarians and Vote 1 under Security Intelligence Review Committee, referred to the Committee on Monday, April 16, 2018.

The Chair called Vote 1 under Canada Border Services Agency.

The Minister made a statement and, with John Ossowski, Anne Kelly and Commr Brenda Lucki, answered questions.

At 12:05 p.m., the sitting was suspended.

At 12:09 p.m., the sitting resumed.

Commr Brenda Lucki, John Ossowski, Malcolm Brown, Anne Kelly, Fraser Macaulay and Charles Lowson answered questions.

By unanimous consent, the Chair called Vote 5 under Canada Border Services Agency, Vote 1 under Canadian Security Intelligence Service, Vote 1 under Civilian Review and Complaints Commission for the Royal Canadian Mounted Police, Votes 1 and 5 under Correctional Service of Canada, Votes 1 and 5 under Department of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness, Vote 1 under Office of the Correctional Investigator of Canada, Vote 1 under Parole Board of Canada, Votes 1, 5 and 10 under Royal Canadian Mounted Police, Vote 1 under Royal Canadian Mounted Police External Review Committee, Vote 1 under Secretariat of the National Security and Intelligence Committee of Parliamentarians and Vote 1 under Security Intelligence Review Committee.

Votes 1 and 5 under Canada Border Services Agency, Vote 1 under Canadian Security Intelligence Service, Vote 1 under Civilian Review and Complaints Commission for the Royal Canadian Mounted Police, Votes 1 and 5 under Correctional Service of Canada, Votes 1 and 5 under Department of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness, Vote 1 under Office of the Correctional Investigator of Canada, Vote 1 under Parole Board of Canada, Votes 1, 5 and 10 under Royal Canadian Mounted Police, Vote 1 under Royal Canadian Mounted Police External Review Committee, Vote 1 under Secretariat of the National Security and Intelligence Committee of Parliamentarians and Vote 1 under Security Intelligence Review Committee carried on division.

ORDERED, — That the Chair report Votes 1 and 5 under Canada Border Services Agency, Vote 1 under Canadian Security Intelligence Service, Vote 1 under Civilian Review and Complaints Commission for the Royal Canadian Mounted Police, Votes 1 and 5 under Correctional Service of Canada, Votes 1 and 5 under Department of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness, Vote 1 under Office of the Correctional Investigator of Canada, Vote 1 under Parole Board of Canada, Votes 1, 5 and 10 under Royal Canadian Mounted Police, Vote 1 under Royal Canadian Mounted Police External Review Committee, Vote 1 under Secretariat of the National Security and Intelligence Committee of Parliamentarians and Vote 1 under Security Intelligence Review Committee, less the amounts voted in the Interim Estimates, to the House.

Committee Business
The Committee proceeded to the consideration of matters related to Committee business.

Motion

Pierre Paul-Hus moved, — That, Greta Bossenmaier, newly appointed National Security Advisor to the Prime Minister, be invited to appear before the Committee at her earliest convenience.

Peter Fragiskatos moved, — That the debate be now adjourned.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to, by a show of hands: YEAS: 5; NAYS: 4.

At 1:03 p.m., the Committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.



Jean-Marie David
Clerk of the Committee