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Minutes of Proceedings

42nd Parliament, 1st Session
Meeting 151
Thursday, May 16, 2019, 8:31 a.m. to 1:00 p.m.
In Camera
Cathy McLeod, Vice-Chair (Conservative)


Library of Parliament
• Olivier Leblanc-Laurendeau, Analyst
• Brittany Collier, Analyst
Pursuant to Standing Order 108(2) and the motion adopted by the Committee on Thursday, April 11, 2019, the Committee resumed its study of the subject matter of Clauses 336 to 386 (Part 4, Division 25) (An Act respecting the Department of Indigenous Services) of Bill C-97, An Act to implement certain provisions of the budget tabled in Parliament on March 19, 2019 and other measures.

It was agreed, — That the following message be transmitted to the Standing Committee on Finance regarding the study of the Subject Matter of Clauses 336 to 386 (Part 4, Division 25, Subdivisions A, B, C and D) of Bill C-97, An Act to implement certain provisions of the budget tabled in Parliament on March 19, 2019 and other measures:

1) Based on testimony we heard at our Committee, we are satisfied that the legislation, as currently drafted, achieves its intended purpose; however, we encourage the government as they move forward to ensure that they are proceeding with their work on a distinctions basis.

2) We believe that the these new departments are already better serving the distinct needs of First Nations, Inuit and Métis, based on recognition and implementation of rights, respect, cooperation, and partnership and will continue improving the delivery of services, while supporting acceleration of Indigenous Peoples’ visions of self-determination. This legislation will, however, bring further clarity to our Indigenous partners regarding which of the new departments are now responsible for specific issues and programs.

3) We encourage the department to have a robust communications plan in place to inform both Indigenous peoples in Canada and officials working within the two departments of Indigenous Services and Crown-Indigenous Relations and Northern Affairs on the changes that will be enacted by this legislation.

At 8:37 a.m., the sitting was suspended.

At 9:01 a.m., the sitting resumed in public.

• Hon. Carolyn Bennett, P.C., M.P., Minister of Crown-Indigenous Relations
Department of Indian Affairs and Northern Development
• Diane Lafleur, Associate Deputy Minister
• Mark Hopkins, Director General, Natural Resources and Environment Branch, Northern Affairs
• Gilles Binda, Senior Advisor, Natural Resources and Environment Branch, Northern Affairs
Dehcho First Nations
• Grand Chief Gladys Norwegian
Gwich'in Tribal Council
• David V. Wright, Legal Counsel
Hamlet of Tuktoyaktuk
• Marven Gruben, Mayor
• Hon. Jackie Jacobson, Councillor
Northwest Territories and Nunavut Chamber of Mines
• Joseph Campbell, Vice-President, Northwest Territories
World Wildlife Fund-Canada
• Mark Brooks, Senior Specialist, Artic Oil and Gas
As an individual
• Neil McCrank, Senior Counsel, Commercial Litigation, Borden Ladner Gervais LLP
Government of the Northwest Territories
• Hon. Bob McLeod, Premier of the Northwest Territories
Tlicho Government
• Grand Chief George Mackenzie
• Chief Alfonz Nitsiza
• Paul Bachand, Legal Counsel
• Bertha Rabesca Zoe, Legal Counsel
Pursuant to the Order of Reference of Tuesday, April 9, 2019, the Committee commenced consideration of Bill C-88, An Act to amend the Mackenzie Valley Resource Management Act and the Canada Petroleum Resources Act and to make consequential amendments to other Acts.

The Minister made a statement and answered questions.

At 9:59 a.m., the sitting was suspended.

At 10:06 a.m., the sitting resumed.

Gladys Norwegian, by teleconference from Yellowknife, Northwest Territories, David V. Wright, by videoconference from Calgary, Alberta, and Marven Gruben made statements and, with Jackie Jacobson, answered questions.

At 10:59 a.m., the sitting was suspended.

At 11:08 a.m., the sitting resumed.

Neil McCrank, by videoconference from Calgary, Alberta, Joseph Campbell and Mark Brooks made statements and answered questions.

At 12:00 p.m., the sitting was suspended.

At 12:05 p.m., the sitting resumed.

Bob McLeod, George Mackenzie and Alfonz Nitsiza made statements and, with Bertha Rabesca Zoe and Paul Bachand, answered questions.

At 1:00 p.m., the Committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.

Leif-Erik Aune
Clerk of the Committee