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Committee Evidence - DEDC-11

2022-06-21

BQ (QC)

Rhéal Fortin (Rivière-du-Nord)

2022-06-21 19:19

Good evening, everyone.

We're ready to get started. That being said, there's always the possibility that we will have interpretation issues, so please be aware. If that happens, let me know and we will stop.

I want us to applaud our interpreters, who do a superb job. I just went to see them. It's hot and there's no ventilation in their little booth, where three of them are working with headphones on. I really have a lot of respect for their work. That said, we will try to be mindful of interpretation.

Given the new timelines, I would suggest that we spend an hour instead of an hour and a half with each of the panels. Would that be sufficient?

Do you think we should stick to an hour and a half instead, even if it means stopping before the second panel's time is up?

Mr. White, you have the floor.

Hon. Vernon White

2022-06-21 19:20

Mr. Chair, if I could, I'd like bring forward a quick motion so that we could have a replacement for Senator Boniface. Everybody has agreed with me verbally on this.

I would like to move that at any point when Senator Boniface would have had an opportunity to ask questions this evening, the time be allocated to Senator Busson instead, who has been sworn in—if there's agreement from the room.

BQ (QC)

Rhéal Fortin (Rivière-du-Nord)

2022-06-21 19:20

I don't see any problem with Senator Busson replacing Senator Boniface.

Hon. Vernon White

2022-06-21 19:21

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

BQ (QC)

Rhéal Fortin (Rivière-du-Nord)

2022-06-21 19:21

Good evening, Senator Busson.

I understand that you have already been sworn in. Is that correct?

Hon. Beverley Busson

2022-06-21 19:21

Yes, I did.

BQ (QC)

Rhéal Fortin (Rivière-du-Nord)

2022-06-21 19:21

Thank you.

We're ready to get started. We will spend one hour with each of our two panels of witnesses. Is everyone okay with that?

Silence implies consent. So you all agree.

Mr. Motz, you have the floor.

CPC (AB)

Glen Motz (Medicine Hat—Cardston—Warner)

2022-06-21 19:21

I'm not necessarily convinced that we want to lessen the witnesses' testimony. That means that not everyone is going to get a chance to ask questions. This is a pretty serious responsibility we have. I'm prepared to sit for an extra hour.

If our witnesses are available, let's have them for the hour and a half each that we had originally planned. That is my proposal.

BQ (QC)

Rhéal Fortin (Rivière-du-Nord)

2022-06-21 19:21

Thank you, Mr. Motz.

Unfortunately, we cannot sit for another hour. We have to be out of the room by 10 p.m. at the latest. Since an hour and a half for each panel would take three hours, we would not have time to complete the scheduled time with the last panel and chief of police Sloly.

I do not want to negotiate anything, I just want to advise you that at 10 p.m. we are getting kicked out.

Senator Harder, you have the floor.

Hon. Peter Harder

2022-06-21 19:22

I have a suggestion, Chair. What if we did the first panel and brought Mr. Sloly back for a full hour and a half on another occasion? That would give us the full time with the first panel.

BQ (QC)

Rhéal Fortin (Rivière-du-Nord)

2022-06-21 19:22

If that's okay with you, I don't see a problem with it.

You are indicating that it's okay with you.

Therefore, we will spend an hour and a half with the first panel of witnesses, as planned.

Mr. Clerk, please notify Mr. Sloly of the situation so that he doesn't needlessly wait for us and to let him know that we will call him back.

Thank you.

I call this meeting to order.

Welcome to meeting number 11 of the Special Joint Committee on the Declaration of Emergency, which was created pursuant to the order of the House on March 2, 2022, and the Senate on March 3, 2022.

Today's meeting is taking place and a hybrid format pursuant to the House order of November 25, 2021.

I'd like to remind all those present in the room to follow the recommendations from public health authorities, as well as directives of the Board of Internal Economy to maintain health and safety.

Should any technical challenges arise, please advise me, as we may need to suspend for a few minutes to ensure all members are able to participate fully.

I also remind witnesses that an interpretation service is available to them.

To access it, please click on the globe icon at the bottom of your screen.

We now welcome our first witnesses. The commissioner, deputy commissioner and chief superintendent of the Ontario Provincial Police will appear during the first half of the meeting. That will be all, in accordance with the decision we just made.

I would therefore like to welcome the commissioner, deputy commissioner and chief superintendent of the Ontario Provincial Police.

You will have five minutes for your opening remarks.

Commissioner Thomas Carrique, you have five minutes.

Thomas Carrique

2022-06-21 19:24

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Good evening, joint chairs, vice-chairs and committee members—

BQ (QC)

Rhéal Fortin (Rivière-du-Nord)

2022-06-21 19:24

Just a moment, please, Mr. Carrique. We have a point of order.

Senator Carignan, you have the floor.

Hon. Claude Carignan

2022-06-21 19:24

I want to be sure that the public has access to the meeting webcast. I'm in contact with people who work with me, and they seem to be having trouble accessing the webcast. I want to make sure that the meeting is public.

BQ (QC)

Rhéal Fortin (Rivière-du-Nord)

2022-06-21 19:25

Mr. Carrique, we're in the process of doing some checks, because we're having technical issues. There is no Wi‑Fi for the time being. We're in the process of checking that, so we ask that you please hold on for a moment.

Mr. Motz has the floor.

Glen Motz - 19:25

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