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Minutes of Proceedings

45th Parliament, 1st Session
Meeting 9
Monday, October 27, 2025, 3:30 p.m. to 5:38 p.m.
Webcast
Presiding
Lisa Hepfner, Chair (Liberal)

Library of Parliament
• Liane Tanguay, Analyst
AI Governance and Safety Canada
• Wyatt Tessari L'Allié, Founder and Executive Director
As an individual
• Alexandra Kearney, Co-Founder, Artificial Agency
BILI Social
• Adrian Capobianco, Chief Executive Officer and Co-Founder
Canadian Media Producers Association
• Alain Strati, Senior Vice-President, Industry and Policy
• Lisa Broadfoot, Vice-President, Industry and Business Affairs
Chaire de recherche du Québec sur l’intelligence artificielle et le numérique francophones
• Jonathan Roberge, Full Professor
• Étienne Grenier, Doctoral Student
Société des auteurs et autrices de radio, télévision et cinéma
• Laurent Dubois, Executive Director
• Véronyque Roy, Lawyer and Labor Relations Advisor
Pursuant to Standing Order 108(2) and the motion adopted by the committee on Monday, September 22, 2025, the committee resumed its study of the effects of technological advances in artificial intelligence on the creative industries.

Wyatt Tessari L’Allié, Alexandra Kearney, Adrian Capobianco, Alain Strati, Lisa Broadfoot, Jonathan Roberge, Étienne Grenier and Laurent Dubois, made statements and, with Véronyque Roy, answered questions.

Motion

Rachael Thomas moved, — Given that,

Through the Indigenous Art Centre, the Federal Government safeguards a collection of more than 5,000 Indigenous artworks of exceptional cultural and artistic value, with an estimated value exceeding $14 million.

More than 130 artworks managed by the Centre have gone missing, according to a troubling audit that highlights widespread mismanagement, weak oversight, and inadequate security.

The committee invite the following witnesses to testify before the committee:

• The Director of the Indigenous Art Centre, for no less than two (2) hours.

• The authors of the audit report prepared by the Audit and Assurance Services Branch of Crown-Indigenous Relations and Northern Affairs Canada, for no less than two (2) hours.

And that the committee report to the House its concern with the audit report.

RULING BY THE CHAIR

The Chair ruled the proposed motion inadmissible as proper notice was not given to members of the committee as provided in the motion adopted by the committee.

Whereupon, Rachael Thomas appealed the decision of the Chair.

The question: "Shall the decision of the Chair be sustained?" was put and the decision was sustained on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Martin Champoux, Lisa Hepfner, David Myles, Bienvenu-Olivier Ntumba, Zoe Royer — 5;

NAYS: Kerry Diotte, Bernard Généreux, Rachael Thomas, Kevin Waugh — 4.

Notice of Motion

Rachael Thomas gave notice of the following motion:

Given that,

Through the Indigenous Art Centre, the Federal Government safeguards a collection of more than 5,000 Indigenous artworks of exceptional cultural and artistic value, with an estimated value exceeding $14 million.

More than 130 artworks managed by the Centre have gone missing, according to a troubling audit that highlights widespread mismanagement, weak oversight, and inadequate security.

The committee invite the following witnesses to testify before the committee:

• The Director of the Indigenous Art Centre, for no less than two (2) hours.

• The authors of the audit report prepared by the Audit and Assurance Services Branch of Crown-Indigenous Relations and Northern Affairs Canada, for no less than two (2) hours.

And that the committee report to the House its concern with the audit report.

At 5:38 p.m., the committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.



Jean-François Pagé
Clerk of the committee