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Minutes of Proceedings

43rd Parliament, 2nd Session
Meeting 16
Monday, February 22, 2021, 4:39 p.m. to 6:39 p.m.
Webcast
Presiding
Hon. John McKay, Chair (Liberal)

House of Commons
• Jacques Maziade, Legislative Clerk
• Philippe Méla, Legislative Clerk
• Émilie Thivierge, Legislative Clerk
 
Library of Parliament
• Graeme McConnell, Analyst
• Robin Whitehead, Analyst
The committee proceeded to the consideration of matters related to committee business.

Motion

Pam Damoff moved, — That the House of Commons Standing Committee on Public Safety and National Security condemn the National Firearms Association and statements made by Sheldon Clare, President, on February 16, 2021 in a video posted online with regards to the introduction of the Bill C-21 which states:

“…revisit their old woodworking and metal working skills and construct guillotines again (laughter). That would really be the best kind of Committee of Public Safety to get this reestablished. If they want to make it about public safety that was the way. The sound of this person’s voice is not one that is joking. He was not joking. I don’t think they understand that this is not New Zealand, this is not the United Kingdom, this is not Australia. This is a country made up of people who been here for thousands of years, our aboriginal people, immigrants from Europe who fled tyranny, who fought against tyranny and …. know tyranny when they see it. And this my friends is tyranny”.

And that this be reported to the House.

Debate arose thereon.

Shannon Stubbs moved, — That the debate be now adjourned.

The question was put on the motion and it was negatived on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Damien Kurek, Kristina Michaud, Glen Motz, Shannon Stubbs, Tako Van Popta — 5;

NAYS: Pam Damoff, Don Davies, Angelo Iacono, Kamal Khera, Emmanuella Lambropoulos, Joël Lightbound — 6.

The Committee resumed consideration of the motion of Pam Damoff, — That the House of Commons Standing Committee on Public Safety and National Security condemn the National Firearms Association and statements made by Sheldon Clare, President, on February 16, 2021 in a video posted online with regards to the introduction of the Bill C-21 which states:

“…revisit their old woodworking and metal working skills and construct guillotines again (laughter). That would really be the best kind of Committee of Public Safety to get this reestablished. If they want to make it about public safety that was the way. The sound of this person’s voice is not one that is joking. He was not joking. I don’t think they understand that this is not New Zealand, this is not the United Kingdom, this is not Australia. This is a country made up of people who been here for thousands of years, our aboriginal people, immigrants from Europe who fled tyranny, who fought against tyranny and …. know tyranny when they see it. And this my friends is tyranny”.

And that this be reported to the House.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Pam Damoff, Don Davies, Angelo Iacono, Kamal Khera, Emmanuella Lambropoulos, Joël Lightbound, Kristina Michaud — 7;

NAYS: — 0.

• Richard Bragdon, M.P., Tobique—Mactaquac
As an individual
• Graydon Nicholas, Endowed Chair in Native Studies, St. Thomas University
John Howard Society of Canada
• Catherine Latimer, Executive Director
Texas Offenders Reentry Initiative
• Tina Naidoo, Executive Director
Pursuant to the order of reference of Thursday, December 10, 2020, the committee commenced consideration of Bill C-228, An Act to establish a federal framework to reduce recidivism.

Richard Bragdon, Nicholas Graydon, Tina Naidoo and Catherine Latimer made statements and answered questions.

The committee commenced its clause-by-clause study of the Bill.

Pursuant to Standing Order 75(1), consideration of Clause 1 (short title) and Preamble was postponed.

The Chair called Clause 2.

On Clause 2,

Pam Damoff moved, — That Bill C-228, in Clause 2, be amended by replacing lines 4 to 6 on page 2 with the following:

“paredness must, in consultation with representatives of the provinces, with a variety of Indigenous governing bodies and Indigenous organizations and with other relevant stakeholders such as non-gov-”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Pam Damoff and it was agreed to.

Pam Damoff moved, — That Bill C-228, in Clause 2, be amended by replacing line 12 on page 2 with the following:

“and evidence-based programs aimed at reducing recidivism;”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Pam Damoff and it was agreed to.

Pam Damoff moved, — That Bill C-228, in Clause 2, be amended by replacing lines 14 and 15 on page 2 with the following:

“been incarcerated back into the community through access to adequate and ongoing re-”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Pam Damoff and it was agreed to.

Jack Harris moved, — That Bill C-228, in Clause 2, be amended by adding after line 22 on page 2 the following:

“(e) evaluate and improve risk assessment instruments and procedures to address racial and cultural biases and ensure that all people who are incarcerated have access to appropriate programs that will help reduce recidivism.”

Debate arose thereon.

Kristina Michaud moved, — That the motion be amended by deleting the words “to address racial and cultural biases”.

After debate, the question was put on the subamendment of Kristina Michaud and it was negatived.

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Jack Harris and it was agreed to.

Clause 2, as amended, carried.

Clause 3 carried.

Clause 4 carried.

Clause 1, Short Title, carried.

The Preamble carried.

The Title carried.

The Bill, as amended, was adopted.

ORDERED, — That the Chair report the Bill, as amended, to the House.

ORDERED, — That Bill C-228, as amended, be reprinted for the use of the House of Commons at report stage.

At 6:39 p.m., the committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.



Mark D'Amore
Clerk of the Committee