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Minutes of Proceedings

43rd Parliament, 2nd Session
Meeting 5
Thursday, November 5, 2020, 11:03 a.m. to 12:52 p.m.
Televised
Presiding
Kelly Block, Chair (Conservative)

House of Commons
• Paul Cardegna, Procedural Clerk
 
Library of Parliament
• André Léonard, Analyst
• Dillan Theckedath, Analyst
Canadian Energy Regulator
• Gitane De Silva, Chief Executive Officer
• Sandy Lapointe, Executive Vice-President, Regulatory
Office of the Auditor General
• Andrew Hayes, Deputy Auditor General and Interim Commissioner of the Environment and Sustainable Development
• Francis Michaud, Director
• Kimberley Leach, Principal
Department of Transport
• Michael Keenan, Deputy Minister
• Aaron McCrorie, Associate Assistant Deputy Minister, Safety and Security
• Benoit Turcotte, Director General, Transportation of Dangerous Goods
Pursuant to Standing Order 108(3)(g) and the motion adopted by the committee on Thursday, October 29, 2020, the Committee commenced consideration of Report 1, Follow-up Audit on the Transportation of Dangerous Goods, of the 2020 Fall Reports of the Commissioner of the Environment and Sustainable Development, referred to the Committee on Tuesday, October 27, 2020.

Andrew Hayes, Gitane De Silva and Michael Keenan made statements and, with the other witnesses, answered questions.

Pursuant to Standing Order 108(2) the committee commenced its study of funding of the Office of the Auditor General.

Motion

Philip Lawrence moved, — That the Standing Committee on Public Accounts call upon the government to provide the auditor general with the $31M she has requested that is required for her to achieve the Office of the Auditor General objectives, and that the committee report this to the house.

After debate, the question was put on the motion and it was agreed to.

The committee resumed consideration of Report 1, Follow-up Audit on the Transportation of Dangerous Goods, of the 2020 Fall Reports of the Commissioner of the Environment and Sustainable Development.

Questioning of the witnesses resumed.

At 12:51 p.m., the sitting was suspended.

At 12:52 p.m., the sitting resumed.

The committee proceeded to the consideration of matters related to committee business.

The Chair presented the First Report from the Subcommittee on Agenda and Procedure, which read as follows:

Your subcommittee met on Tuesday, November 3, 2020, to consider the business of the committee and agreed to make the following recommendations:

  1. That the Clerk provide the committee with information concerning the Canadian Council of Public Accounts Committees (CCPAC) and copies of the programs or agendas of the CCPAC’s previous annual meetings, be adopted.
  2. That the committee agree to host the annual meeting of the Canadian Council of Public Accounts Committees (CCPAC) in the summer of 2022, and that the Chair and the Clerk be instructed to prepare a budget and seek the necessary permission to proceed with the planning for this event, be adopted.
  3. That pursuant to Standing Order 108(3)(g) the committee study Report 3, Taxation of E-Commerce, of the 2019 Spring Reports of the Auditor General of Canada, on Tuesday, November 17, 2020, and invite the appropriate witnesses, be adopted.
  4. That pursuant to Standing Order 108(3)(g) the committee study Report 3, Supplying the Canadian Armed Forces—National Defence, of the 2020 Spring Reports of the Auditor General of Canada, on Thursday, November 19, 2020, and invite the appropriate witnesses, be adopted.
  5. That pursuant to Standing Order 108(3)(g) the committee study the Public Accounts of Canada 2020, on Tuesday, November 24 and Thursday, 26, 2020, or on the next possible date after they have been tabled in the House of Commons and invite the appropriate witnesses, be adopted.
  6. That pursuant to Standing Order 108(3)(g) the committee consider a draft report on the study on Report 1, Follow-up Audit on the Transportation of Dangerous Goods, of the 2020 Fall Reports of the Commissioner of the Environment and Sustainable Development, and a draft report on Report 3, Taxation of E-Commerce, of the 2019 Spring Reports of the Auditor General of Canada, on Tuesday, December 1, 2020, be adopted.
  7. That pursuant to Standing Order 108(3)(g) the committee study Report 1, Immigration Removals, of the 2020 Spring Reports of the Auditor General of Canada, on Thursday, December 3, 2020 and invite the appropriate witnesses, be adopted.
  8. That pursuant to Standing Order 108(3)(g) the committee consider a draft report on the study on Report 3, Supplying the Canadian Armed Forces—National Defence, of the 2020 Spring Reports of the Auditor General of Canada, on Tuesday, December 8, 2020, be adopted.
  9. That pursuant to Standing Order 108(3)(g) the committee study Report 2, Student Financial Assistance, of the 2020 Spring Reports of the Auditor General of Canada, on Thursday, December 10, 2020 and invite the appropriate witnesses, be adopted.

Debate arose thereon.

It was agreed, — That points 3 to 9 of the subcommittee report be adopted.

Debate continued on point 1 and 2 of the subcommittee report.

It was agreed, — That points 1 or 2 of the subcommittee report be adopted.

It was agreed, — That the first report of the Subcommittee on Agenda and Procedure be adopted.

At 12:52 p.m., the committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.



Angela Crandall
Clerk of the Committee