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Minutes of Proceedings

43rd Parliament, 2nd Session
Meeting 38
Wednesday, June 16, 2021, 4:11 p.m. to 6:13 p.m.
Webcast
Presiding
Francis Drouin (Liberal)

• Luc Berthold for Pierre Paul-Hus (Conservative)
• Louise Chabot for Julie Vignola (Bloc Québécois)
Library of Parliament
• Raphaëlle Deraspe, Analyst
• Lindsay McGlashan, Analyst
• Ryan van den Berg, Analyst
• Hon. Jean-Yves Duclos, President of the Treasury Board
Treasury Board Secretariat
• Roger Ermuth, Assistant Comptroller General, Financial Management Sector, Office of the Comptroller General
• Karen Cahill, Assistant Secretary and Chief Financial Officer
• Glenn Purves, Assistant Secretary, Expenditure Management Sector
• Rod Greenough, Executive Director, Expenditure Strategies and Estimates
• Sonya Read, Acting Assistant Secretary, Digital and Services Policy
• Tolga Yalkin, Assistant Deputy Minister, Workplace Policies and Services
Pursuant to Standing Order 108(2), the committee commenced its study of the subject matter of Supplementary Estimates (A), 2021-22: Vote 1a under Department of Public Works and Government Services, Vote 1a under Privy Council Office, Votes 1a and 5a under Shared Services Canada, and Votes 1a, 10a, 25a and 35a under Treasury Board Secretariat.

The President of the Treasury Board made a statement and, with Karen Cahill, Roger Ermuth, Grant Purves and Tolga Yalkin, answered questions.

At 4:32 p.m., Robert Kitchen took the Chair.

Questioning of the witnesses resumed.

Motion

Pierre Paul-Hus moved, — That the committee resume consideration of the motion moved by Pierre Paul-Hus on Monday, June 7, 2021, which read as follows:

That, in the context of its study of the government’s response to the COVID-19 Pandemic and pursuant to Standing Order 108(1)(a), the committee send for the following documents to be provided by the government: all briefing notes, memorandums for information, memorandums for decision, and documents related to the final contracts (including: letters of intent, requests for proposals, departmental justifications for non-competitive bid processes, contract numbers and solicitation numbers and final contracts) signed on behalf of the government with suppliers of personal protective equipment, testing equipment and vaccines between Friday, May 15, 2020 and Monday, May 31, 2021; that the documents be submitted electronically to the clerk of the committee in both official languages no later than noon ET on Friday, August 13, 2021; that the documents be published publicly on the committee’s website by Wednesday, August 18, 2021; and that departments tasked with gathering and releasing the following documents do their assessment and vetting as would be done through the access to information process.

The question was put on the motion and it was negatived on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Louise Chabot, Matthew Green, Kelly McCauley, Pierre Paul-Hus — 4;

NAYS: Francis Drouin, Majid Jowhari, Irek Kusmierczyk, Steven MacKinnon, Patrick Weiler — 5.

Questioning of the witnesses resumed.

Motion

Rachael Thomas moved, — That the committee resume consideration of the motion moved by Pierre Paul-Hus on Monday, June 7, 2021, which read as follows:

That, in the context of its study of the government’s response to the COVID-19 Pandemic and pursuant to Standing Order 108(1)(a), the committee send for the following documents to be provided by the government: all briefing notes, memorandums for information, memorandums for decision, and documents related to the final contracts (including: letters of intent, requests for proposals, departmental justifications for non-competitive bid processes, contract numbers and solicitation numbers and final contracts) signed on behalf of the government with suppliers of personal protective equipment, testing equipment and vaccines between Friday, May 15, 2020 and Monday, May 31, 2021; that the documents be submitted electronically to the clerk of the committee in both official languages no later than noon ET on Friday, August 13, 2021; that the documents be published publicly on the committee’s website by Wednesday, August 18, 2021; and that departments tasked with gathering and releasing the following documents do their assessment and vetting as would be done through the access to information process.

At 6:09 p.m., the sitting was suspended.

At 6:11 p.m., the sitting resumed.

RULING BY THE CHAIR

The Chair ruled the motion inadmissible.

On motion of Rachael Harder, it was agreed, — That the committee do now adjourn.

At 6:13 p.m., the committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.



Paul Cardegna
Clerk of the Committee