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Minutes of Proceedings

43rd Parliament, 1st Session
Meeting 5
Thursday, March 12, 2020, 8:45 a.m. to 10:44 a.m.
Webcast
Presiding
Tom Lukiwski (Conservative)

• Tony Baldinelli for Kelly Block (Conservative)
• Jeremy Patzer for Kelly Block (Conservative)
Library of Parliament
• Raphaëlle Deraspe, Analyst
• Ryan van den Berg, Analyst
• Hon. Anita Anand, P.C., M.P., Minister of Public Services and Procurement
• Hon. Joyce Murray, P.C., M.P., Minister of Digital Government
Department of Public Works and Government Services
• Bill Matthews, Deputy Minister
• Michael Vandergrift, Associate Deputy Minister
• Marc Lemieux, Assistant Deputy Minister, HR-to-Pay Program Office
• André Fillion, Assistant Deputy Minister, Defence and Marine Procurement, Acquisitions Program
• Marty Muldoon, Chief Financial Officer, Finance and Administration Branch
Shared Services Canada
• Sarah Paquet, Executive Vice-President
• Denis Bombardier, Chief Financial Officer
• Raj Thuppal, Senior Assistant Deputy Minister, Chief Technology Officer Branch
Treasury Board Secretariat
• Karen Cahill, Assistant Secretary and Chief Financial Officer
• Francis Bilodeau, Acting Chief Information Officer of Canada


• Hon. Anita Anand, P.C., M.P., Minister of Public Services and Procurement
• Hon. Joyce Murray, P.C., M.P., Minister of Digital Government
Department of Public Works and Government Services
• Bill Matthews, Deputy Minister
• Michael Vandergrift, Associate Deputy Minister
• Marc Lemieux, Assistant Deputy Minister, HR-to-Pay Program Office
• André Fillion, Assistant Deputy Minister, Defence and Marine Procurement, Acquisitions Program
• Marty Muldoon, Chief Financial Officer, Finance and Administration Branch
Shared Services Canada
• Sarah Paquet, Executive Vice-President
• Denis Bombardier, Chief Financial Officer
• Raj Thuppal, Senior Assistant Deputy Minister, Chief Technology Officer Branch
Treasury Board Secretariat
• Karen Cahill, Assistant Secretary and Chief Financial Officer
• Francis Bilodeau, Acting Chief Information Officer of Canada

Pursuant to Standing Order 108(2), the committee commenced its study of the subject matter of Supplementary Estimates (B), 2019-20: Vote 1b under Department of Public Works and Government Services, Votes 1b and 5b under Shared Services Canada and Vote 1b under Treasury Board Secretariat.

Pursuant to Standing Order 108(2) and the motion adopted by the committee on Thursday, February 27, 2020, the committee commenced consideration of the Departmental Results Reports 2018-19.


The Minister of Digital Government made a statement and answered questions.

Motion

Ziad Aboultaif moved, — That, pursuant to Standing Order 108(2), the Committee undertake a study of no less than two meetings on the aging technology systems of the Government of Canada including but not limited to systems which deliver programs such as NETFILE, employment insurance and old age security and that the committee witness list include the Minister of Public Services and Procurement Canada, the Minister of Employment, Workforce Development and Disability Inclusion, the Minister of National Revenue and the Minister of Digital Government, and that the committee report its findings to the House.

Debate arose thereon.

On motion of Steven MacKinnon, it was agreed, — That the debate be now adjourned.

The Minister of Digital Government, with Francis Bilodeau, Sarah Paquet and Denis Bombardier, answered questions.

At 9:44 a.m., the sitting was suspended.

At 9:53 a.m., the sitting resumed.

The Minister of Public Services and Procurement made a statement.

It was agreed, — That the speaking notes presented by the Minister of Public Services and Procurement be taken as read and appended to the Evidence of today's meeting.

The Minister of Public Services and Procurement, with Bill Matthews and André Fillion, answered questions.

The committee proceeded to the consideration of matters related to committee business.

It was agreed, — That notwithstanding the motion adopted on Thursday, February 27, 2020, when the Parliamentary Budget Officer appears before the committee on Tuesday, March 24, 2020, the order of the day will be the Parliamentary Budget Officer’s Report on the Supplementary Estimates (B) 2019-20.

At 10:44 a.m., the committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.



Paul Cardegna
Clerk of the Committee