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Minutes of Proceedings

43rd Parliament, 1st Session
Meeting 21
Friday, June 19, 2020, 10:57 a.m. to 1:09 p.m.
Webcast
Presiding
Tom Lukiwski (Conservative)

House of Commons
• Angela Crandall, Procedural Clerk
 
Library of Parliament
• Raphaëlle Deraspe, Analyst
• Ryan van den Berg, Analyst
As an individual
• Michael A. Dagg
Anti-Corruption Accountability Canada
• Allan Cutler, President
Canadian COVID-19 Accountability Group
• Sean Holman, Member and Associate Professor of Journalism, Mount Royal University
Office of the Information Commissioner of Canada
• Caroline Maynard, Information Commissioner of Canada
Pursuant to the orders of reference of Saturday, April 11, 2020, and Tuesday, May 26, 2020, the committee resumed its study of the government’s response to the COVID-19 pandemic.

Caroline Maynard made a statement and answered questions.

At 11:45 a.m., the sitting was suspended.

At 11:48 a.m., the sitting resumed.

Michael A. Dagg, Allan Cutler and Sean Holman made statements and answered questions.

Motion

Matthew Green moved, — That, pursuant to Standing Order 108(1)(a), the committee send for documents from Public Service and Procurement Canada (PSPC) containing the following disaggregated data related to businesses owned by under-represented groups (black, indigenous, women, and persons with disabilities) who have engaged with PSPC with regard to the federal government’s response to COVID-19: (a)(i) how many companies from underrepresented groups have secured contracts with PSPC, (ii) the value of these contracts, (iii) the number of businesses from under represented groups screened and approved as credited vendors, (iv) number and value of set aside contracts for these businesses, (v) the number of sub-contracts entered into; (b), the committee requests from Employment and Social Development Canada (“ESDC”) the production of all papers and records, in unredacted form, relating to the Federal Contractors Program, and in particular: (i) all current, signed Agreements to Implement Employment Equity (“Agreements”); (ii) the most current list of contractors covered by said Agreements; (iii) the most current compliance documentation furnished by each contractor covered by an Agreement, including the goal-setting report, achievement table, workforce analysis, revised goals for remaining gaps in representation, and any explanatory material; (iv) the most current documentation of ESDC’s compliance assessment for each contractor covered by an Agreement; (v) the most recent Limited Eligibility to Bid List; (vi) all documentation filed in an appeal of a finding of non-compliance by a contractor to the Minister; (vii) all documentation connected to an independent review of an appeal; (viii) any documentation internal to ESDC assessing or evaluating the Federal Contractors Program; and that the committee receive these documents, papers and records no later than Monday, August 31, 2020.

Amendment

Francis Drouin moved, — That the motion be amended by adding after the words “August 31, 2020” the following: “and that departments tasked with gathering and releasing the following documents do their assessment and vetting as would be done through the access to information process”.

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Francis Drouin and it was agreed to on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Ziad Aboultaif, Kelly Block, Francis Drouin, Matthew Green, Majid Jowhari, Irek Kusmierczyk, Steven MacKinnon, Kelly McCauley, Julie Vignola, Patrick Weiler — 10;

NAYS: — 0.

The question was put on the motion, as amended, and it was agreed to on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Ziad Aboultaif, Kelly Block, Francis Drouin, Matthew Green, Majid Jowhari, Irek Kusmierczyk, Steven MacKinnon, Kelly McCauley, Julie Vignola, Patrick Weiler — 10;

NAYS: — 0.

The motion, as amended, read as follows:

That, pursuant to Standing Order 108(1)(a), the committee send for documents from Public Service and Procurement Canada (PSPC) containing the following disaggregated data related to businesses owned by under-represented groups (black, indigenous, women, and persons with disabilities) who have engaged with PSPC with regard to the federal government’s response to COVID-19: (a) (i) how many companies from under-represented groups have secured contracts with PSPC, (ii) the value of these contracts, (iii) the number of businesses from under represented groups screened and approved as credited vendors, (iv) number and value of set aside contracts for these businesses, (v) the number of sub-contracts entered into; (b), the committee requests from Employment and Social Development Canada (“ESDC”) the production of all papers and records, in unredacted form, relating to the Federal Contractors Program, and in particular: (i) all current, signed Agreements to Implement Employment Equity (“Agreements”); (ii) the most current list of contractors covered by said Agreements; (iii) the most current compliance documentation furnished by each contractor covered by an Agreement, including the goal-setting report, achievement table, workforce analysis, revised goals for remaining gaps in representation, and any explanatory material; (iv) the most current documentation of ESDC’s compliance assessment for each contractor covered by an Agreement; (v) the most recent Limited Eligibility to Bid List; (vi) all documentation filed in an appeal of a finding of non-compliance by a contractor to the Minister; (vii) all documentation connected to an independent review of an appeal; (viii) any documentation internal to ESDC assessing or evaluating the Federal Contractors Program; and that the committee receive these documents, papers and records no later than Monday, August 31, 2020 and that departments tasked with gathering and releasing the following documents do their assessment and vetting as would be done through the access to information process.

Questioning of the witnesses resumed.

Motion

Kelly McCauley moved, — That, in the context of the committee’s study on the government’s response to COVID- 19 pandemic, the committee request the Parliamentary Budget Officer to provide the code 699 data set that was provided to it by the government, and that the information be provided to the committee by Monday, June 29, 2020.

After debate, the question was put on the motion and it was negatived on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Ziad Aboultaif, Kelly Block, Kelly McCauley, Julie Vignola — 4;

NAYS: Francis Drouin, Matthew Green, Majid Jowhari, Irek Kusmierczyk, Steven MacKinnon, Patrick Weiler — 6.

Questioning of the witnesses resumed.

Motion

Julie Vignola moved, — That the committee request that the Office of the Parliamentary Budget Officer undertake a costing analysis of building the Canadian Surface Combatants and building the FREMM and the Type 31e and that the report containing this analysis be presented to the Chair of the committee by Thursday, October 22, 2020.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Ziad Aboultaif, Kelly Block, Francis Drouin, Matthew Green, Majid Jowhari, Irek Kusmierczyk, Steven MacKinnon, Kelly McCauley, Julie Vignola, Patrick Weiler — 10;

NAYS: — 0.

At 1:09 p.m., the committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.



Paul Cardegna
Clerk of the Committee