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Minutes of Proceedings

42nd Parliament, 1st Session
Meeting 138
Thursday, April 11, 2019, 11:00 a.m. to 1:06 p.m.
Televised
Presiding
Hon. Judy A. Sgro, Chair (Liberal)

Liberal

Library of Parliament
• Geneviève Gosselin, Analyst
• Alexandre Lafrenière, Analyst
• Hon. François-Philippe Champagne, P.C., M.P., Minister of Infrastructure and Communities
Office of Infrastructure of Canada
• Kelly Gillis, Deputy Minister, Infrastructure and Communities


• Hon. François-Philippe Champagne, P.C., M.P., Minister of Infrastructure and Communities
Office of Infrastructure of Canada
• Kelly Gillis, Deputy Minister, Infrastructure and Communities

Pursuant to Standing Order 108(2), the Committee resumed its study of the subject matter of the Supplementary Estimates (B), 2018-19: Votes 1b, 5b, 10b and 15b under Department of Transport, Vote 10b under Office of Infrastructure of Canada, Vote 1b under The Jacques-Cartier and Champlain Bridges Inc, and Vote 1b under VIA Rail Canada Inc.

Pursuant to Standing Order 108(2), the Committee resumed its study of the subject matter of the Interim Estimates 2019-20: Vote 1 under Canadian Air Transport Security Authority, Vote 1 under Canadian Transportation Agency, Votes 1, 5, 10, 15 and 20 under Department of Transport, Vote 1 under Marine Atlantic Inc., Votes 1, 5 and 10 under Office of Infrastructure of Canada, Vote 1 under The Jacques-Cartier and Champlain Bridges Inc., Vote 1 under VIA Rail Canada Inc. and Vote 1 under Windsor-Detroit Bridge Authority.


At 11:01 a.m., pursuant to Standing Order 115(5), it was agreed that the Committee continue to sit.

The Minister made a statement and answered questions.

The Committee proceeded to the consideration of matters related to Committee business.

Motion

Matt Jeneroux moved, — That the Committee invite the Minister of Indigenous Services to appear, no later than Friday, May 17, 2019, to update the Committee on the status of delivering infrastructure directly to Indigenous communities, including the doubling of the Gas Tax Fund, announced in Budget 2019.

Debate arose thereon.

It was agreed, — That the motion be amended by deleting the words “no later than Friday, May 17, 2019” and that the Chair be empowered to find a suitable date for the Minister’s appearance prior to the summer adjournment.

The question was put on the motion, as amended, and it was agreed to on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Robert Aubin, Ken Hardie, Angelo Iacono, Matt Jeneroux, Ron Liepert, Phil McColeman, Churence Rogers, Gagan Sikand, Borys Wrzesnewskyj — 9;

NAYS: — 0.

The motion, as amended, read as follows:

That the Committee invite the Minister of indigenous Services to appear to update the Committee on the status of delivering infrastructure directly to Indigenous communities, including the doubling of the Gas Tax Fund, announced in Budget 2019.

At 11:22 a.m., the sitting was suspended.

At 11:41 a.m., the sitting resumed.

Motion

Robert Aubin moved, — That, given the significant amount of work accomplished by the Committee in advance of what will soon become the Canadian air passenger bill of rights, the Committee undertake a study consisting of no more than two meetings to give feedback to the Minister of Transport on the draft regulations that he is preparing to table concerning this bill of rights.

After debate, the question was put on the motion and it was negatived, by a show of hands: YEAS: 4; NAYS: 5.

At 12:11 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 115(5), it was agreed that the Committee continue to sit.

• Hon. François-Philippe Champagne, P.C., M.P., Minister of Infrastructure and Communities
Office of Infrastructure of Canada
• Kelly Gillis, Deputy Minister, Infrastructure and Communities


• Hon. François-Philippe Champagne, P.C., M.P., Minister of Infrastructure and Communities
Office of Infrastructure of Canada
• Kelly Gillis, Deputy Minister, Infrastructure and Communities

Pursuant to Standing Order 108(2), the Committee resumed its study of the subject Matter of the Supplementary Estimates (B), 2018-19: Votes 1b, 5b, 10b and 15b under Department of Transport, Vote 10b under Office of Infrastructure of Canada, Vote 1b under The Jacques-Cartier and Champlain Bridges Inc, and Vote 1b under VIA Rail Canada Inc.

Pursuant to Standing Order 108(2), the Committee resumed its study of the subject matter of the Interim Estimates 2019-20: Vote 1 under Canadian Air Transport Security Authority, Vote 1 under Canadian Transportation Agency, Votes 1, 5, 10, 15 and 20 under Department of Transport, Vote 1 under Marine Atlantic Inc., Votes 1, 5 and 10 under Office of Infrastructure of Canada, Vote 1 under The Jacques-Cartier and Champlain Bridges Inc., Vote 1 under VIA Rail Canada Inc. and Vote 1 under Windsor-Detroit Bridge Authority.


Questioning of the Minister resumed.

The Committee proceeded to the consideration of matters related to Committee business.

Motion

Matt Jeneroux moved, — That the Committee invite the Signature on the Saint Lawrence, no later than Friday, May 31, 2019, to update the Committee on the status of the new Samuel de Champlain Bridge, which is expected to be complete by June 2019.

After debate, the question was put on the motion and it was negatived on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Matt Jeneroux, Ron Liepert, Phil McColeman — 3;

NAYS: Robert Aubin, Ken Hardie, Angelo Iacono, Churence Rogers, Gagan Sikand, Borys Wrzesnewskyj — 6.

• Hon. François-Philippe Champagne, P.C., M.P., Minister of Infrastructure and Communities
Office of Infrastructure of Canada
• Kelly Gillis, Deputy Minister, Infrastructure and Communities


• Hon. François-Philippe Champagne, P.C., M.P., Minister of Infrastructure and Communities
Office of Infrastructure of Canada
• Kelly Gillis, Deputy Minister, Infrastructure and Communities

Pursuant to Standing Order 108(2), the Committee resumed its study of the subject matter of the Supplementary Estimates (B), 2018-19: Votes 1b, 5b, 10b and 15b under Department of Transport, Vote 10b under Office of Infrastructure of Canada, Vote 1b under The Jacques-Cartier and Champlain Bridges Inc, and Vote 1b under VIA Rail Canada Inc.

Pursuant to Standing Order 108(2), the Committee resumed its study of the subject matter of the Interim Estimates 2019-20: Vote 1 under Canadian Air Transport Security Authority, Vote 1 under Canadian Transportation Agency, Votes 1, 5, 10, 15 and 20 under Department of Transport, Vote 1 under Marine Atlantic Inc., Votes 1, 5 and 10 under Office of Infrastructure of Canada, Vote 1 under The Jacques-Cartier and Champlain Bridges Inc., Vote 1 under VIA Rail Canada Inc. and Vote 1 under Windsor-Detroit Bridge Authority.


Questioning of the Minister resumed.

The Committee proceeded to the consideration of matters related to Committee business.

Motion

Matt Jeneroux moved, — That the Committee immediately invite Pierre Lavallée, the newly appointed President and Chief Executive Officer of the Canada Infrastructure Bank, to provide an update on the Canada Infrastructure Bank.

Debate arose thereon.

Amendment

Ron Liepert moved, — That the motion be amended by deleting the words “newly appointed” and that the words “no later than Friday, May 3, 2019 and that the meeting be televised” be added after the word “Bank”.

Debate arose thereon.

Subamendment

Robert Aubin moved, — that the amendment be amended by replacing the words “no later than Friday, May 3, 2019” with the words “before the summer adjournment of the House”.

After debate, the question was put on the subamendment of Robert Aubin and it was negatived on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Robert Aubin, Matt Jeneroux, Ron Liepert, Phil McColeman — 4;

NAYS: Ken Hardie, Angelo Iacono, Churence Rogers, Gagan Sikand, Borys Wrzesnewskyj — 5.

The question was put on the amendment of Ron Liepert and it was negatived on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Matt Jeneroux, Ron Liepert, Phil McColeman — 3;

NAYS: Robert Aubin, Ken Hardie, Angelo Iacono, Churence Rogers, Gagan Sikand, Borys Wrzesnewskyj — 6.

The question was put on the motion and it was negatived on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Matt Jeneroux, Ron Liepert, Phil McColeman — 3;

NAYS: Robert Aubin, Ken Hardie, Angelo Iacono, Churence Rogers, Gagan Sikand, Borys Wrzesnewskyj — 6.

• Hon. François-Philippe Champagne, P.C., M.P., Minister of Infrastructure and Communities
Office of Infrastructure of Canada
• Kelly Gillis, Deputy Minister, Infrastructure and Communities


• Hon. François-Philippe Champagne, P.C., M.P., Minister of Infrastructure and Communities
Office of Infrastructure of Canada
• Kelly Gillis, Deputy Minister, Infrastructure and Communities

Pursuant to Standing Order 108(2), the Committee resumed its study of the subject matter of the Supplementary Estimates (B), 2018-19: Votes 1b, 5b, 10b and 15b under Department of Transport, Vote 10b under Office of Infrastructure of Canada, Vote 1b under The Jacques-Cartier and Champlain Bridges Inc, and Vote 1b under VIA Rail Canada Inc.

Pursuant to Standing Order 108(2), the Committee resumed its study of the subject matter of the Interim Estimates 2019-20: Vote 1 under Canadian Air Transport Security Authority, Vote 1 under Canadian Transportation Agency, Votes 1, 5, 10, 15 and 20 under Department of Transport, Vote 1 under Marine Atlantic Inc., Votes 1, 5 and 10 under Office of Infrastructure of Canada, Vote 1 under The Jacques-Cartier and Champlain Bridges Inc., Vote 1 under VIA Rail Canada Inc. and Vote 1 under Windsor-Detroit Bridge Authority.


Questioning of the Minister resumed.

The Committee proceeded to the consideration of matters related to Committee business.

Motion

Ken Hardie moved, — That, given the importance of Canada’s trade corridors to the national economy and to add value to this Committee’s study of our major trade corridors, the Committee allocate up to two meetings to receive an update on the government’s National Trade Corridors Fund initiative.

Debate arose thereon.

It was agreed, — That the motion be amended by adding after the word “initiative” the following: “and that the Chair comply with the Committee's already adopted calendar when scheduling these meetings”.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to, by a show of hands: YEAS: 9; NAYS: 0.

The motion, as adopted, read as follows:

That, given the importance of Canada’s trade corridors to the national economy and to add value to this Committee’s study of our major trade corridors, the Committee allocate up to two meetings to receive an update on the government’s National Trade Corridors Fund initiative and that the Chair comply with the Committee's already adopted calendar when scheduling these meetings.

At 12:36 p.m., the sitting was suspended.

At 12:51 p.m., the sitting resumed in camera.

The Committee proceeded to the consideration of matters related to Committee business.

It was agreed, — That the meetings on Tuesday, April 30, 2019, Thursday, May 2, 2019 and Tuesday, May 7, 2019, be devoted to the study of subject matter of clauses 225 to 279 (Part 4, Divisions 11 and 12) of Bill C-97, An Act to implement certain provisions of the budget tabled in Parliament on March 19, 2019 and other measures.

It was agreed, — That each party submit their prioritized witness lists, including contact information, for the study of subject matter of clauses 225 to 279 (Part 4, Divisions 11 and 12) of Bill C-97, An Act to implement certain provisions of the budget tabled in Parliament on March 19, 2019 and other measures, to the Clerk of the Committee before end of day Monday, April 15, 2019.

It was agreed, — That the second hour on Thursday, May 9, 2019, be devoted to the study of temporary use in Canada, by Canadian citizens, of American-plated passenger vehicles.

It was agreed, — That each party submit their prioritized witness lists, including contact information, for the study of temporary use in Canada, by Canadians, of American-plated vehicles to the Clerk of the Committee before end of day Monday, April 15, 2019.

It was agreed, — That given the Committee’s new agenda, the witnesses scheduled for Tuesday, April 30, 2019, on the study of bus passenger safety, be cancelled and that the Clerk of the Committee request that they provide written submissions no later than Tuesday, April 30, 2019.

It was agreed, — That drafting instructions for a report on the study of bus passenger safety be scheduled for Thursday, May 2, 2019.

It was agreed, — That the Chair schedule a meeting of the Committee’s Subcommittee on Agenda and Procedure to discuss the Committee’s agenda for the upcoming months.

At 1:06 p.m., the Committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.



Marie-France Lafleur
Clerk of the Committee