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Minutes of Proceedings

42nd Parliament, 1st Session
Meeting 150
Monday, February 25, 2019, 3:29 p.m. to 5:29 p.m.
Televised
Presiding
Hon. John McKay, Chair (Liberal)

Liberal

Library of Parliament
• Julia Nicol, Analyst
• Dominique Valiquet, Analyst
• Hon. Ralph Goodale, P.C., M.P., Minister of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness
• Hon. Bill Blair, P.C., M.P., Minister of Border Security and Organized Crime Reduction
Department of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness
• Malcolm Brown, Deputy Minister
Correctional Service of Canada
• Anne Kelly, Commissioner
Royal Canadian Mounted Police
• Gilles Michaud, Deputy Commissioner, Federal Policing
Canada Border Services Agency
• Tina Namiesniowski, Executive Vice-President
Parole Board of Canada
• Jennifer Oades, Chairperson
Canadian Security Intelligence Service
• David Vigneault, Director


• Hon. Ralph Goodale, P.C., M.P., Minister of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness
• Hon. Bill Blair, P.C., M.P., Minister of Border Security and Organized Crime Reduction
Department of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness
• Malcolm Brown, Deputy Minister
Correctional Service of Canada
• Anne Kelly, Commissioner
Royal Canadian Mounted Police
• Gilles Michaud, Deputy Commissioner, Federal Policing
Canada Border Services Agency
• Tina Namiesniowski, Executive Vice-President
Parole Board of Canada
• Jennifer Oades, Chairperson
Canadian Security Intelligence Service
• David Vigneault, Director

Pursuant to Standing Order 81(5), the Committee commenced consideration of the Supplementary Estimates (B), 2018-19: Vote 1b under Correctional Service of Canada, Vote 5b under Department of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness, Votes 1b, 5b and 10b under Royal Canadian Mounted Police, referred to the Committee on Monday, January 28, 2019; and

Pursuant to Standing Order 81(6), the Committee commenced consideration of the Interim Estimates 2019-20: Votes 1 and 5 under Canada Border Services Agency, Vote 1 under Canadian Security Intelligence Service, Vote 1 under Civilian Review and Complaints Commission for the Royal Canadian Mounted Police, Votes 1 and 5 under Correctional Service of Canada, Votes 1 and 5 under Department of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness, Vote 1 under Office of the Correctional Investigator of Canada, Vote 1 under Parole Board of Canada, Votes 1, 5 and 10 under Royal Canadian Mounted Police, Vote 1 under Royal Canadian Mounted Police External Review Committee, Vote 1 under Secretariat of the National Security and Intelligence Committee of Parliamentarians, Vote 1 under Security Intelligence Review Committee, referred to the Committee on Monday, January 28, 2019.


The Chair called Vote 1b under Correctional Service of Canada and Vote 1 under Canada Border Services Agency.

Minister Goodale made a statement and, with Gilles Michaud, answered questions.

A point of order was raised regarding the relevance of a question posed to witnesses.

RULING BY THE CHAIR

The Chair ruled the question admissible as a precedent on relevance of questions had been set by previously posed questions.

Questioning of the witnesses resumed.

Minister Goodale, with David Vigneault and Jennifer Oades, answered questions.

At 4:33 p.m., the sitting was suspended.

At 4:36 p.m., the sitting resumed.

Minister Blair made a statement and, with Tina Namiesniowski, answered questions.

By unanimous consent, the Chair called Vote 5b under Department of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness and Votes 1b, 5b and 10b under Royal Canadian Mounted Police.

Vote 1b under Correctional Service of Canada, Vote 5b under Department of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness and Votes 1b, 5b and 10b under Royal Canadian Mounted Police carried on division.

By unanimous consent, the Chair called Vote 5 under Canada Border Services Agency, Vote 1 under Canadian Security Intelligence Service, Vote 1 under Civilian Review and Complaints Commission for the Royal Canadian Mounted Police, Votes 1 and 5 under Correctional Service of Canada, Votes 1 and 5 under Department of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness, Vote 1 under Office of the Correctional Investigator of Canada, Vote 1 under Parole Board of Canada, Votes 1, 5 and 10 under Royal Canadian Mounted Police, Vote 1 under Royal Canadian Mounted Police External Review Committee, Vote 1 under Secretariat of the National Security and Intelligence Committee of Parliamentarians and Vote 1 under Security Intelligence Review Committee.

Votes 1 and 5 under Canada Border Services Agency, Vote 1 under Canadian Security Intelligence Service, Vote 1 under Civilian Review and Complaints Commission for the Royal Canadian Mounted Police, Votes 1 and 5 under Correctional Service of Canada, Votes 1 and 5 under Department of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness, Vote 1 under Office of the Correctional Investigator of Canada, Vote 1 under Parole Board of Canada, Votes 1, 5 and 10 under Royal Canadian Mounted Police, Vote 1 under Royal Canadian Mounted Police External Review Committee, Vote 1 under Secretariat of the National Security and Intelligence Committee of Parliamentarians and Vote 1 under Security Intelligence Review Committee carried on division.

ORDERED, — That the Chair report Vote 1b under Correctional Service of Canada, Vote 5b under Department of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness and Votes 1b, 5b and 10b under Royal Canadian Mounted Police in the Supplementary Estimates (B), 2018-19 and Votes 1 and 5 under Canada Border Services Agency, Vote 1 under Canadian Security Intelligence Service, Vote 1 under Civilian Review and Complaints Commission for the Royal Canadian Mounted Police, Votes 1 and 5 under Correctional Service of Canada, Votes 1 and 5 under Department of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness, Vote 1 under Office of the Correctional Investigator of Canada, Vote 1 under Parole Board of Canada, Votes 1, 5 and 10 under Royal Canadian Mounted Police, Vote 1 under Royal Canadian Mounted Police External Review Committee, Vote 1 under Secretariat of the National Security and Intelligence Committee of Parliamentarians and Vote 1 under Security Intelligence Review Committee in the Interim Estimates 2019-20 to the House.

At 5:29 p.m., the Committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.



Naaman Sugrue
Clerk of the Committee