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Minutes of Proceedings

42nd Parliament, 1st Session
Meeting No. 122
Thursday, June 14, 2018, 11:01 a.m. to 12:55 p.m.
In Camera
Presiding
Hon. John McKay, Chair (Liberal)

Library of Parliament
• Tanya Dupuis, Analyst
• Dominique Valiquet, Analyst
Pursuant to Standing Order 108(2) and the motion adopted by the Committee on Monday, March 6, 2017, the Committee resumed its study of indigenous people in the correctional system.

The Committee resumed consideration of a draft report.

It was agreed, — That the draft report, as amended, be adopted.

It was agreed, — That the report be entitled: "Indigenous People in the Federal Correctional System".

It was agreed, — That the Chair, Clerk and analysts be authorized to make such grammatical and editorial changes as may be necessary without changing the substance of the report.

It was agreed, — That, pursuant to Standing Order 109, the Committee request that the Government table a comprehensive response to the report.

ORDERED, — That the Chair present the report to the House.

At 11:28 a.m., the sitting was suspended.

At 11:31 a.m., the sitting resumed in public.

The Committee proceeded to the consideration of matters related to Committee business.

Motion

Julie Dabrusin moved, — That the Committee report the following to the House in relation to its study of Bill C-71:

After having studied Bill C-71, An Act to amend certain Acts and Regulations in relation to firearms, the Committee wishes to make the following recommendations to the Government:

a) That the Government of Canada expand research into firearm-related injury and death, including research on the correlation between firearms and suicide and intimate partner violence;

b) That, as raised by the Toronto police and other stakeholders, the Government study mechanisms to identify large and unusual firearms transactions, especially those involving restricted and prohibited guns, to better identify illicit straw purchasing schemes, gang activity, or trafficking operations; and

c) That, at the suggestion of PolySeSouvient, the Government of Canada examine whether it is reasonable for commercial firearms manufacturers to promote the sales of their wares, namely restricted and prohibited weapons, in a manner that particularly glorifies violence and simulates warfare.

Debate arose thereon.

Amendment

Matthew Dubé moved, — That the motion be amended by adding after the words “simulates warfare” the following: “d) That any above undertakings of the Government be done in consultation with all relevant stakeholders”.

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Matthew Dubé and it was agreed to, by a show of hands: YEAS: 6; NAYS: 0.

Amendment

Glen Motz moved, — That the motion be amended by adding after the words “relevant stakeholders” the following: “e) That the Committee calls on the House to return Bill C-71 to the Committee for further study”.

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Glen Motz and it was negatived on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Blaine Calkins, Glen Motz, Pierre Paul-Hus — 3;

NAYS: Julie Dabrusin, Pam Damoff, Matthew Dubé, Peter Fragiskatos, Michel Picard, Sven Spengemann — 6.

The Committee resumed consideration of the motion, as amended, of Julie Dabrusin, — That the Committee report the following to the House in relation to its study of Bill C-71:

After having studied Bill C-71, An Act to amend certain Acts and Regulations in relation to firearms, the Committee wishes to make the following recommendations to the Government:

a) That the Government of Canada expand research into firearm-related injury and death, including research on the correlation between firearms and suicide and intimate partner violence;

b) That, as raised by the Toronto police and other stakeholders, the Government study mechanisms to identify large and unusual firearms transactions, especially those involving restricted and prohibited guns, to better identify illicit straw purchasing schemes, gang activity, or trafficking operations;

c) That, at the suggestion of PolySeSouvient, the Government of Canada examine whether it is reasonable for commercial firearms manufacturers to promote the sales of their wares, namely restricted and prohibited weapons, in a manner that particularly glorifies violence and simulates warfare; and

d) That any above undertakings of the Government be done in consultation with all relevant stakeholders.

The question was put on the motion, as amended, and it was agreed to, by a show of hands: YEAS: 5; NAYS: 0.

Motion

Pam Damoff moved, — That the Committee report the following to the House in relation to its study of Bill C-71:

After having studied Bill C-71, An Act to amend certain Acts and Regulations in relation to firearms, the Committee wishes to make the following recommendations to the Government:

a) That as part of the regulatory process, the Government of Canada review the reference process for Possession and Acquisition Licenses to determine both who can be used for a reference, and also to ensure that references are actually checked;

b) That the Minister of Public Safety work with his provincial and territorial counterparts to implement “duty to warn”, which would require medical professionals to advise provincial authorities about persons who have diagnosed conditions that are likely to put the lives of other people in danger;

c) That the Minister of Public Safety Work with his provincial and territorial counterparts to ensure prompt and accurate data transfer of court records of new criminal charges or convictions to the Canadian Police Information Centre (CPIC) and Canadian Firearms Information System; and

d) That, at the suggestion of the Canadian Association of Emergency Physicians and other stakeholders, the Government of Canada examine the effectiveness and appropriateness of current individual firearms storage regulations as well as after-hours commercial storage regulations.

Debate arose thereon.

Amendment

Matthew Dubé moved, — That the motion be amended by adding after the words “storage regulations” the following: “e) That any above undertakings of the Government be done in consultation with all relevant stakeholders”.

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Matthew Dubé and it was agreed to, by a show of hands: YEAS: 6; NAYS: 0.

At 12:03 p.m., Matthew Dubé took the Chair.

Amendment

Michel Picard moved, — That the motion be amended by adding before the words “the lives of other people in danger” the following: “their own life and/or”.

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Michel Picard and it was agreed to, by a show of hands: YEAS: 5; NAYS: 0.

Amendment

Blaine Calkins moved, — That the motion be amended by replacing the words “implement “duty to warn”, which would require medical professionals to” with the words “determine how medical professionals could advise provincial authorities about”.

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Blaine Calkins and it was agreed to, by a show of hands: YEAS: 8; NAYS: 0.

Amendment

Pam Damoff moved, — That the motion be amended by adding after the words “provincial authorities” the following: “, including the "duty to warn"” and by replacing, in the English version, the word "medical" with the word "healthcare".

The question was put on the amendment of Pam Damoff and it was agreed to, by a show of hands: YEAS: 8; NAYS: 0.

Amendment

Blaine Calkins moved, — That the motion be amended by deleting the words “a) That as part of the regulatory process, the Government of Canada review the reference process for Possession and Acquisition Licenses to determine both who can be used for a reference, and also to ensure that references are actually checked” and "d) That, at the suggestion of the Canadian Association of Emergency Physicians and other stakeholders, the Government of Canada examine the effectiveness and appropriateness of current individual firearms storage regulations as well as after-hours commercial storage regulations".

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Blaine Calkins and it was negatived, by a show of hands: YEAS: 3; NAYS: 5.

The Committee resumed consideration of the motion, as amended, of Pam Damoff, — That the Committee report the following to the House in relation to its study of Bill C-71:

After having studied Bill C-71, An Act to amend certain Acts and Regulations in relation to firearms, the Committee wishes to make the following recommendations to the Government:

a) That as part of the regulatory process, the Government of Canada review the reference process for Possession and Acquisition Licenses to determine both who can be used for a reference, and also to ensure that references are actually checked;

b) That the Minister of Public Safety work with his provincial and territorial counterparts to determine how health care professionals could advise provincial authorities, including the “duty to warn” about persons who have diagnosed conditions that are likely to put their own life and/or the lives of other people in danger;

c) That the Minister of Public Safety Work with his provincial and territorial counterparts to ensure prompt and accurate data transfer of court records of new criminal charges or convictions to the Canadian Police Information Centre (CPIC) and Canadian Firearms Information System;

d) That, at the suggestion of the Canadian Association of Emergency Physicians and other stakeholders, the Government of Canada examine the effectiveness and appropriateness of current individual firearms storage regulations as well as after-hours commercial storage regulations; and

e) That any above undertakings of the Government be done in consultation with all relevant stakeholders.

The question was put on the motion, as amended, and it was agreed to on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Julie Dabrusin, Pam Damoff, Peter Fragiskatos, Michel Picard, Sven Spengemann — 5;

NAYS: Blaine Calkins, Glen Motz, Pierre Paul-Hus — 3.

Motion

Glen Motz moved, — That, the Committee invite the Minister of Public Safety to appear before it, no later than Thursday, June 21, 2018, to provide an explanation of the discrepancies found in the list of individuals he claims to have consulted on Bill C-71.

After debate, the question was put on the motion and it was negatived, by a show of hands: YEAS: 3; NAYS: 5.

At 12:40 p.m., the sitting was suspended.

At 12:41 p.m., the sitting resumed in camera.

Pursuant to Standing Order 108(2) and the motion adopted by the Committee on Tuesday, October 31, 2017, the Committee resumed its study of the use of ion mobility spectrometers by Correctional Service Canada.

The Committee commenced consideration of a draft report.

At 12:55 p.m., the Committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.



Jean-Marie David
Clerk of the Committee