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Meeting No. 27
Tuesday, October 19, 2010

The Standing Committee on Public Accounts met at 11:05 a.m. this day, in Room 237-C, Centre Block, the Chair, the Hon. Joseph Volpe, presiding.


Members of the Committee present: Hon. Navdeep Bains, David Christopherson, Jean-Claude D'Amours, Earl Dreeshen, Meili Faille, Andrew Saxton, Bev Shipley, Hon. Joseph Volpe and Terence Young.


Acting Members present: Malcolm Allen for David Christopherson, Dean Allison for Daryl Kramp and Monique Guay for Richard Nadeau.


In attendance: Library of Parliament: Sébastien T. Defoy, Analyst; Alex Smith, Analyst.


Witnesses: Office of the Auditor General of Canada: Sheila Fraser, Auditor General of Canada; Ronnie Campbell, Assistant Auditor General; Marie Bergeron, Principal. Treasury Board Secretariat: Michelle d'Auray, Secretary of the Treasury Board of Canada; Susan Cartwright, Senior Advisor, Legislative Review of the Public Service Modernization Act; Ross MacLeod, Assistant Deputy Minister, Office of the Chief Human Resources Officer, Governance Planning and Policy Sector.

Pursuant to Standing Order 108(3)(g), and the motion adopted by the Committee on Thursday, April 22, 2010, the Committee commenced consideration of Chapter 2, “Modernizing Human Resource Management,” of the Spring 2010 Report of the Auditor General of Canada.

Sheila Fraser, Michelle d'Auray and Susan Cartwright made statements and, with Marie Bergeron and Ross MacLeod, answered questions.

The Committee proceeded to the consideration of matters related to Committee business.

On motion of Meili Faille, it was agreed, — That the decision of the Committee on the following motion, moved by Meili Faille on June 3, 2010, be made public:

“That, given that the Public Accounts Committee has published reports on issues related to Information Technology (IT) since 1995,

Given that the Office of the Auditor General has published reports on issues related to Information Technology (IT) since 1995,

That the House of Commons Committee on Public Accounts, in light of the significant risks to IT in the coming years and the need to be proactive, as well as the lack of feasibility studies on future IT projects, request that the Parliamentary Budget Officer, with existing resources, review the costs, expenditures and detailed estimates of government spending in information technology in the following departments and agencies, and report back by November 30, 2010:

• Agriculture and Agri-Food Canada

• Foreign Affairs

• Indian and Northern Affairs Canada

• Canada Border Services Agency

• Canada Revenue Agency • Veterans Affairs Canada

• Citizenship and Immigration Canada

• Royal Canadian Mounted Police

• Public Works and Government Services Canada

• Canadian Security Intelligence Service

• Transport Canada

• Health Canada

• Human Resources and Skills Development Canada

• Fisheries and Oceans Canada

• Justice Canada”.


At 12:56 p.m., the Committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.


Joann Garbig
Clerk of the Committee

2010/10/19 3:17 p.m.