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MINUTES OF PROCEEDINGS
 
Meeting No. 22
 
Tuesday, May 26, 2009
 

The Standing Committee on Public Accounts met at 3:28 p.m. this day, in Room 237-C, Centre Block, the Chair, Shawn Murphy, presiding.

 

Members of the Committee present: David Christopherson, Meili Faille, Daryl Kramp, Hon. Shawn Murphy, Yasmin Ratansi, Andrew Saxton, Bev Shipley, John Weston and Terence Young.

 

Acting Members present: Judy Foote for Bonnie Crombie, Roger Pomerleau for Luc Desnoyers and Lise Zarac for Bonnie Crombie.

 

In attendance: Library of Parliament: Andrew Kitching, Analyst; Alex Smith, Analyst.

 

Witnesses: Office of the Auditor General of Canada: Sheila Fraser, Auditor General of Canada; Hugh McRoberts, Assistant Auditor General; Gordon Stock, Principal, Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness Canada, Justice. Privy Council Office: Marie-Lucie Morin, National Security Advisor to the Prime Minister and Associate Secretary to the Cabinet. Department of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness: Suzanne Hurtubise, Deputy Minister. Department of Transport: Louis Ranger, Deputy Minister; Marc Grégoire, Assistant Deputy Minister, Safety and Security Group. Royal Canadian Mounted Police: Tim Killam, Deputy Commissioner, Policing Support Services; Guylaine Dansereau, Director, Canadian Criminal Real Time Identification Services.

 
Pursuant to Standing Order 108(3)(g) and the motion adopted by the Committee on Thursday, April 23, 2009, the Committee commenced consideration of Chapter 1, "National Security: Intelligence and Information Sharing" of the 2009 Status Report of the Auditor General of Canada.
 

Sheila Fraser, Marie-Lucie Morin, Suzanne Hurtubise, Louis Ranger and Tim Killam made statements and, with the other witnesses, answered questions.

 
The Committee proceeded to the consideration of matters related to Committee business.
 

The Chair presented the Eleventh Report from the Subcommittee on Agenda and Procedure which read as follows:

Your Subcommittee met on Tuesday, May 26, 2009, to consider the business of the Committee and agreed to make the following recommendations:

1. That pursuant to Standing Order 108(3)(g), and commencing June 16, 2009, the Committee undertake studies of:

  • Chapter 1, "Gender-Based Analysis" of the Spring 2009 Report of the Auditor General of Canada;
  • Chapter 5, "Financial Management and Control - National Defence" of the Spring 2009 Report of the Auditor General of Canada;
  • Chapter 6, "Selected Contribution Agreements - Natural Resources Canada" of the Spring 2009 Report of the Auditor General of Canada.

2. That the Committee allocate time during its meeting on Thursday, June 4, 2009, to meet with a parliamentary delegation from Serbia.

3. That, pursuant to Standing Order 108(2), the Committee undertake a study to review the adoption of the Accounting Officer model in Canada; and that in fall 2009, the Committee schedule a meeting with academics for a round-table discussion of this matter.

4. That Vote 15a under FINANCE - AUDITOR GENERAL of the Supplementary Estimates (A) for the fiscal year ending March 31, 2010, referred to the Committee on May 14, 2009, be deemed adopted; and that the Chair report same to the House.

5. That departmental action plans and progress reports received by the Committee be published on the Committee’s website, subject to approval of the Committee.

 

On motion of David Christopherson, it was agreed, — That the Subcommittee Report be amended in paragraph 5 by deleting the words “subject to approval of the Committee”.

 

It was agreed, — That the Eleventh Report of the Subcommittee on Agenda and Procedure of the Standing Committee on Public Accounts, as amended, be adopted.

 
Pursuant to Standing Order 81(5), the Committee commenced consideration of the Supplementary Estimates (A) 2009-2010: Vote 15a under FINANCE referred to the Committee on Thursday, May 14, 2009.
 

Sheila Fraser made a statement.

 

The Chair called Vote 15a under FINANCE - AUDITOR GENERAL.

 

Vote 15a under FINANCE - AUDITOR GENERAL carried.

 

ORDERED, — That the Chair report Vote 15a under FINANCE - AUDITOR GENERAL to the House.

 
The Committee proceeded to the consideration of matters related to Committee business.
 

Andrew Saxton moved, — That, notwithstanding the motion adopted on May 12, 2009, in relation to the deposit of audiocassettes requested at the meeting of March 24, 2009, the Department of Public Works and Government Services be given the time needed to respect its obligations under the Privacy Act.

Debate arose thereon.

 

The question was put on the motion and the result of the vote was announced: YEAS: Daryl Kramp, Andrew Saxton, Bev Shipley, John Weston, Terence Young — 5; NAYS: David Christopherson, Meili Faille, Judy Foote, Roger Pomerleau, Yasmin Ratansi — 5.

Whereupon, the Chair voted in the negative.

Accordingly, the motion was negatived.

 

At 5:40 p.m., the Committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.

 



Joann Garbig
Clerk of the Committee

 
 
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