Mr. Chair, like a sports team that's down by a lot of points, I'm looking at the clock here and getting a little concerned that victory is not going to happen—victory being passing this bill. But in light of the fact that we do have time left on the clock, hopefully we'll be able to proceed quickly through a number of other amendments, some that hopefully won't even be brought forward because they don't need to be, in my opinion.
I want to make reference to something Mr. Lemay said when he was speaking to new paragraph 1.1(c).
I guess my point on this would be that the Canadian Human Rights Act can and in fact will be able to rule that certain customary laws or traditions of first nations people should be considered above and beyond a human rights case made. The Canadian Human Rights Commission will be able to adjudicate that. They will be able to rule that certain customary laws should be upheld. But if this passes, it will say to the Canadian Human Rights Commission that all of them will still apply. And that is the crux of my argument.
It's true—you're shaking your head, but I'm telling you, it's true—that they will be able to rule that individual certain customary laws are legitimate. They will say that we believe this customary law is for the benefit of collective rights, and it should be considered above and beyond this human rights case that is being brought before us. They will be able to rule that. But should you pass this paragraph, you'll be taking away their ability to adjudicate.
There are a number of other points I'd like to make—just quickly, because I know we're running out of time.
In relation to some of the testimony from Madam Keeper, speaking in relation to an interpretative provision, I just want her to state once again, perhaps, that she sees the language used within this amendment to in fact achieve what has been ruled inadmissible, which is in fact an interpretative provision. She sees this particular section as being able to achieve what the interpretative provision would have achieved. That is what I believe she was getting at through her testimony.
I just want her to perhaps speak to that again—but quickly, because I know we're running out of time.